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The *Official* Jedi Quest discussion thread

Discussion in 'Literature' started by lightsaber_wielder, Sep 30, 2002.

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  1. lightsaber_wielder

    lightsaber_wielder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This thread has been posted with the intent of discussion of Jude Watson's series of books, Jedi Quest.

    The stories follow the journeys of Anakin Skywalker and his Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi. In their adventures they encounter many mysteries, dangers and sometimes old friends.

    The books that are currently available in the series are:

    Path to Truth
    The Way of the Apprentice
    The Trail of the Jedi
    The Dangerous Games

    Upcoming books in the series are:

    The Master of Disguise
    The School of Fear

    Discuss these books! Readers of this thread should be warned of spoilers that may be released about upcoming books or recently released books.

    *This thread was not made for major criticism of the series and all those who are not fans of the series should not post bad remarks.*
     
  2. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Haven't read Dangerous Games yet; is it worth picking up? I've got the next two preordered along with BF: Crossfire, though.
     
  3. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    The Jedi Quest books in general seem to suffer for the first two of them because the spectre of Qui Gon's loss hangs over the author's head along with the fact that she doesn't apparently seem to like Anakin that much. I felt there was perhaps alittle too much foreshadowing with some of their troubles. I would much have preferred Anakin's path to the Dark Side to have begun perhaps much later but by the Dangerous Games I much preferred the books to Jedi Quest. Anakin does some real heroic stuff there and gets some valuable life lessons involved....also we see shades more of the enemy.

    I do want a fully developed villain in the Sith Cult centered (?) around Granta Omega. It seems to be an Illuminati style organization but the introduction of something like that isn't something causal. I mean if this is Palpatine at the head of it and this is his "web of evil" your basically retconning Raith Sienner, Sate Pestage, Kinman Dorina, and many others into a fairly huge...well pyramid where they are aware they are serving the Sith as opposed to subtly being manipulated by them.

    Also Granta should be able to inflict some serious damage if he is a Sith cultist (this whole Void thing doesn't really jive with me though)
     
  4. lightsaber_wielder

    lightsaber_wielder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You should pick up The Dangerous Games, Mastadge. It's a great book with lots of twists and turns, and with a surprise towards the end.

    There are cameos from many of the people who raced Pods in the Boonta Eve Classic. Sebulba is there, for one, and he does not recognise Anakin at first.

    Other cameos are from Siri, Ry-Gaul, Tru Veld, Ferus Olin, Doby and Deland (the sons of Ratts Tyerell), Hekula (son of Sebulba), Didi Oddo and Astri Oddo (now married to Bog Divinian).

    There is also a very cool chapter where Obi-Wan competes against Maxo Vista (a famous athlete) in an event that involves touching laser beams onto lasers located on various holographic objects and creatures. It is a fun and interesting chapter.

    It is definitely one of Jude Watson's better books, and with a page count of 169, one of the bigger ones.

    The only thing that I found annoying about the book was that some of the names were unoriginal and boring. I mean, come on, what kind of name is Bog?

    By the way, I can't find Path to Truth anywhere. Can anyone help?
     
  5. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    Let's not forget the Jedi Quest comic series!

    At one time, a lot of people seemed to feel that Watson didn't do enough research on existing SW aliens and planets, but TDG contains references to Ortolans, Circapous Major, Manda, and even Phlogs! That last one is rather an obscure reference for one who doesn't do her research, is it not? ;) :p

    TC
     
  6. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Sith Cult?
     
  7. lightsaber_wielder

    lightsaber_wielder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's entirely possible that Granta Omega is one of Professor Murk Lundi's Sith followers. That group was definitely a Sith cult of some kind.

    I like to think that he was Norval, who had a brief battle with Obi-Wan in The Followers and then escaped.

    Or he could have been Omal, but wasn't Omal permanently depressed or something? Anyway, he would have been part of some Sith cult.

    Is he the 'slippery foe' in The Master of Disguise?
     
  8. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I'm certain of it

    No I'm fairly sure that Granta Omega is a major player in the galaxy which doesn't fit the description of the followers of Professor Lundi who while evil incarnate thanks to their brainwashing by the charismatic invertibrate (or scarred forever) are still just college students (abeit look what the skull and bones society can do)

    He was described as one of the richest men in the galaxy as well and the impliance was that he was older than a typical student, especially with his peculiar powers to cloud minds (racial ability or force ability or imparted ability by a higher master?) even as trained as the Jedi

    Still for an evil madman his plots don't have much zest to them. A bunch of bounty Hunters on a world to hunt the Jedi yet he doesn't get a single one or show very much ruthlessness getting them. Maybe he knew that his cover was blown by his traitors and he dceided instead to make the Jedi sick with worry about the SIth instead.

    Perhaps he intended all along to let his assaisination be viewed as the work of the Sith to sew fear

    I'm positive Norval died onboard his ship as well, though now the question is who exactly was the "other party"?

    Was it Palpatine, Dooku, or Granta Omega (I'm sure it was one of these three)

     
  9. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Wait, a Sith cult is the main enemy in the JQ books?
     
  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Yes Mathew or so it seems,

    In the Followers its established that there is a series of small Sith cults operating in the galaxy at any given time since the Founding of the Order...the name still strikes terror into people even 1000 years later and people want to capitalize on that.

    It's like Anton Levay meets Cthulhu's slaves save no force sensetives (except for Nikko Tyris and his bunch as near as I can tell)

    However Jude Watson has always made it clear there is a fairly elaborate network in place by Anakin's padawanship covering the galaxy in evil. The group that robbed the Telos colony ship for instance in The first Special Edition book was part of a much greater conspiracy.

    It seems in Jedi Quest there is a "Pyramid" of power in place that certain members of the Underworld are aware of and terrified of (and I don't mean Black Sun). They spread holos of killing Jedi, preach the Sith way, and generally teach of the Dark Side of the Force's glories even if they can't touch it.....

    They actually even visited Korriban and tried to make off with a bunch of relics from it.

    The question is of course whether Palpatine, Dooku, or someone else is heading this organization....perhaps it's actually a gigantic web established and added to by the Dark Lords over the centuries of pure fanatics, individual cells that even the leaders arn't often aware of their place in the great scheme of things but only the Dark Lords

    provided this isn't just a really powerful Sith cult that Obi Wan and anakin will destroy; basicaly rich, arrogant, evil impersonators of the Dark Lords doing evil for its own sake

    That kind of twist might be cool
     
  11. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    I personally think that that's the case.

    Now, what I'd like to know is if these guys are connected to the evil guys who are now running Offworld in JASE#1 or the evil guy Obi-Wan faught in JASE#2. I'm inclined to think so.

    Another interesting thing to consider is if these guys are controled by the real Sith (Sidious/Palpatine and Dooku) or if they're an independant group. If the latter is the case, the Sith may beat the Jedi to the punch in destroying them. Just look at what happened to Black Sun and the Bando Gora.

    TC
     
  12. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Counterpoint,

    The Sith have "revealed themselves" The Jedi Knighthood at this point with Darth Maul and they are actively looking for the Sith. I imagine providing them with faux Sith aids Palpatine's goals immensley.

    If they actually are servants of Darth Sideous and his empire of evil then that revelation is costing him dearly I have no doubt in my mind.

    But it explains why about 800 Jedi are killed by the time of the Clone Wars (numbers were like 9,200 I believe)

    I am less personally credited with the idea that Offworld is involved with this Sith Cult. Xanatos was the founder of the Offworld Corporation and the Fallen Jedi Padawan would have glorified and gloated over a Sith connection; the fact he didn't shows in my mind there is none.

    While Offworld is still evil and manipulatable I think it's probably just the influence of Xanatos and his board of directors (Hutts I might add mainly). In other words I imagine the Galaxy's largest Mining Corporation is pretty much finished as a story.

    I'm surprised they survived the mentioned Xanatos's business failings in the "The Captive Temple". I can only guess that he strip mined Telos so completely and made so much money on his rigged casinos that their swift pull out allowed them enough money to get back on their feet.

     
  13. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    You raise some interesting points. I'm positive that Xanatos wasn't connected with Granta Omega, but I'm wondering if perhaps Omega took over Offworld after Xanatos' death.

    TC
     
  14. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Since The Master of Disguise is out, I thought I'd bring this back up.

    I bought the book yesterday after work and finished it early this morning. :)

    For sure, we haven't seen the last of Granta Omega... who low and behold does have a Sith cult. ;)

    ~*~Bria
     
  15. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    MoD is out? Cool.
     
  16. MattPeriolat

    MattPeriolat Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It's OUT??? And so is Boba Fett 2??? And I have DW and SBS shipping from Amazon with ET??? And AOTC and LOTR in three weeks???

    Wallet... getting... so... small...
     
  17. Cow_Girl

    Cow_Girl Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Finally! a place to rant ;)

    Well, not really, don't worry :)

    Anyways, I read master of the Disguise the other night, and I was quite disppointed. Overall I just found the book very boring, To me, Granta Omega does not seem like a threat at all. What with his evil plan this time? To have anakin over for tea? I thought that was kinda lame. All the characters just seemed so flat. Thats what I loved about the JA series, the characters all seemed so real and things flowed easily.If the next book is not better than this one, I doubt I will continue reading this series.

    What was the Boba Fett book like? I didn't pick it up because they are still printing it in hard cover and its a bit pricey for me.Espically for a book that can be reada in less than a hour....
     
  18. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Up you go little thread. Book #5 is out.

    I picked it up this afternoon and I look forward to reading it. :)
     
  19. Jedi_Horn_888

    Jedi_Horn_888 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    One thing that troubles me about this series is Granta Omega's "void" in the Force. It reminds me of the Vong. How is it that Omega, who isn't a Vong, as far as we know, be a void in the Force?

    MoD certainly added a lot more of Omega's history to the mix. Raised by a cart pushing mum, sponsored by a Jedi-hating Senator, now one of the richest men in the galaxy.

    I wonder what Sauro got out of sponsoring him.

    Horn out
     
  20. Mateo

    Mateo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nikkos Tyris and his Dark Jedi created a Void in the force according to TPOTJSB,maybe its a tie in to tyris.
     
  21. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    What do any of you think of Ferus? He doesn't seem too humble. It's as if he is assigned to needle Anakin, which may be the case. Anakin can't seem to walk away from a "diss". Ferus seeems to enjoy getting him riled. I hope they don't drop the character in EPIII books, not the novelization but other material.

    I want to see what Vader does to him.
     
  22. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I too think Ferus enjoys making Anakin look/feel bad. He seems too perfect.

    I read all of School of Fear last night. I really liked it. It was similiar to Jedi Apprentice #5, because Anakin too finds a group he believes in. I liked though that Ms. Watson didn't have Anakin make the exact same choices as Anakin... yet some of the consequences appear as if they will be the same (i.e. Anakin in trouble with the council). I wonder if Jedi Quest #6 will parallel Jedi Apprentice #6, just as JQ #6 did JA #6...
     
  23. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Anyone else read this book?

    Does anyone recall offhand which JA book Qui-Gon has that vision he thinks is himself, but then realizes it's Obi-Wan as an older man? I loved that scene and would like to re-read it, but I can't seem to find it... :(
     
  24. Jedi_Riibu

    Jedi_Riibu Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well I decided to pop in here to see what was going on .. but I've already discussed this book with you, Bria! ;)

    Anywho, I was a bit shocked and disappointed at Obi-Wan for getting as upset as he did at the end. Granted everything he said had merit, but he could have added, "But wow, you really did kick some butt at the end there!" or something. I actually felt bad for whiny Anakin.

    And I think I know what book you're thinking of, Bria. I'll see if I can find it.
     
  25. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    Could we keep the spoilers for #5 hidden, please? I won't be able to pick it up until Tuesday.

    TC
     
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