The Official Millennium Falcon Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

You might be right about Daala, perhaps she's been possesed ala Kyp Durron or something.

And do we really know that there are no more Mandalorian's left during Legacy? Or have we just not seen them, Hondo Karr aside?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the mandies were being groomed as the One Sith's shock troops. Living among them is, after all, a rogue force-sensitive... and then there's Beviin's Boba-clone conspiracy...

 

Utterly random as the thought was when it came to me, the more I think about it the more it strikes me as something that could genuinely happen. It'd be bitter irony for Boba Fett, Jedi slayer, to see his people succumb to their past and become slaves to the Sith once more.

Hmm, you know, while that idea strike me as completely ridiculous when I first thought it earlier, I actually rather like it. After all the Mandalorians will have done to try and redeem themselves for their past sins, and to try and enter the galactic fold as a genuine nation, they'd be dragged right back into their dark origins. Especially if in the course of FOTJ they begin as Daala's footsoldiers, trying to stamp out Force-sensitives, but by the end of it ended up artificially Force-imbued minions.

Though, I think what perhaps intrigues me the most is that it'd offer an explanation for how the One Sith grew so quickly. I'm in the camp who fully believe that to expand to 10,000 members in the course of 100 years simply by conversions, baby snatching, or whatever, would be perfectly fine. However, they can't build much of a story around that, but to have the Sith hordes appear suddenly from a mass conversion would be a fairly novel story for them to tell.

Dessan and the Reborn, Mark II? Krayt and the Reborn Mandos?

 

Well, I don't mean Force-sensitive shocktroops-- I just mean that they'll once again take up the role they played during the Great Sith War as Sith foot soldiers.

 

Hmm. It would be striking if, even One Sith aside, the Mandos end up being simple pawns in the coming conflagration. (I assume there will be one. It wouldn't be all hardcovers, otherwise. )

 

Oh, they will be. Because when you come right down to it, that's all the Mandos have been, with the Mando War being the notable exception.

Sith War? Sith pawns.
New Sith War? Jedi pawns.
Clone Wars? Sith pawns.
GCW? Rebel (and by extension, Jedi) pawns
Second GCW? Jedi Pawns.
Vong War? NR (and Jedi by extension) pawns


And since my knowledge of the GFFA's major conflicts is incomplete at best, I have no doubt there are some I missed.

EDIT: Forgot a couple.

 

People are calling this more an anthology of stories than an actual story, Ive seen.

 

There is still an overall story though, we just hear stories within that story. They're not separated out like I envision the anthologies of stories (like the Tales books).

 

I'm really enjoying this one. It's not anthology-like at all. There are clearly two parallel stories that are increasingly merging together as the story continues.

I think it is interesting how both protagonists are searching for the Falcon but from different directions (one starting from the past and working forward and the other vice versa).

I really haven't read this whole thread, so apologies if I am repeating what others have already said.

I am looking forward to what appears will be an eventual crash collision between these converging plot lines/protagonists.

I also really like the parts with Allana.

I like this story for what it is and don't see it as just a "filler" story.

Interesting though how some people clamor they want stories that aren't always epic and dire, and when they get when they complain it isn't epic and dire.

 

Do you wear some kind of funky glasses that automatically translate any text you look at into whine?



Because dude, take them off.

 

I definitely think that the One Sith will take advantage of the coming war, if they are not somehow already manipulating it themselves. With Luke gone, the Jedi will be completely vulnerable, especially with Daala/Mandos and the media turning every citizen into a Jedi hater.

I will be very surprised if they don't try at least something in FOTJ.

 

Well, didn't the One Sith say they had Jacen 'created' to destroy the Skywalkers? Maybe their plan is much bigger than Jacen.

 

While I haven't read MF yet, it seems to be a hodge-podge of an epilogue for Legacy of the Force, a prologue for Fate of the Jedi, mixed with an anthology of those who owned the Millennium Falcon before Lando.

But what I've seen so far on this board interests me. A kind of "Internal Affairs" for the Jedi Order makes a LOT of sense, even from Daala. Even Jedi who aren't getting too close to the Dark Side can act like self-righteous vigilantes when Luke isn't around to reign them in. (Kyp at the start of NJO is a good example.) Luke obviously had to do a lot "on the fly," and was more of a solider than a vigilante during the original trilogy. But he knows better than to use the Force to "make things the way I want them to be."

In Dark Force Rising, Joruus C'Boath said that the Jedi protected the galaxy, "and in return the galaxy destroyed us." That Vader, Palpatine and other Dark Jedi couldn't have killed off the Jedi if the Galaxy didn't want them to. Which makes a lot of sense. Of course, the Prequels makes it seem that the galaxy only believed what Palpatine told them to believe, but the new era characters aren't that gullible. They know what Jacen did and many of the Jedi have the power to do the same, even without the "weak-minded."

Finally, and this might be more suited for another board, but neither the Jedi nor the Sith are anarchists.

 

Daala? Subtle? Nah, I don't think so...

 

why is Leia shocked the weird Jedi can use Telekinesis

 

Good point indeed. But when that weapon-smuggling syndicate appeared in MF and kidnapped Allana to get the YVH droids from Lando, they mentioned that they were having a hard time prospering under Daala's leadership and that the black market is also suffering. Which page was it that said the smuggling organization goes all the way to the top? I'll have to read that part again...

 

I think she was more distressed about how he used the Force to paralyze those Intelligence agents. He flicks a finger and they just freeze in place, 'as if paralyzed,' is how it was described, i believe...

 

I wonder if Han will pass on the Falcon to Allana when she is older since Han thinks Allana could become a reat pilot. And also some previous owner named it the Millennium Falcon after a bat Falcon and that it was destined to last a millennium. Will the Falcon last another 900 years?

 

Here's the passage:

I think its clear Leia was genuinely surprised. As said before using the Force to throw multiple objects across a room like it was nothing is pretty impressive. The fact that he was also able to completely stun the men is also impressive. He was most likely using the Stasis Field on them, which he Wook says is a variant of Force Stun. It could paralyze multiple beings in place and is practiced by higher-level Knights and Masters. I know I'm probably reaching here but I think this is pretty good evidence that Seff has been learning some stuff well beyond his natural ability.

Bottom of P. 157 and P. 160 I think.

 

um luke was that type of telekinsis since at least darksaber. its not that impressive. um the paralyzed things sounds like stasis. which should not be that big of deal either. what is with leia and that door. its like she is a weak jedi again.

 

My reading was not that Leia was shocked at what he did but that he was able and willing to do it. He's just a random, relatively young, presumably newly minted Jedi Knight. That means at best he should be doing only basic level Force techniques--so maybe waving his hand to try and mind trick people, not effortlessly freeze them on the spot-- and, as a Jedi, shouldn't just casually be doing things like that anyway.

KOTOR game mechanics aside, I generally consider a proper Force stun a fairly high level power. It may not be that unheard of, but being able to totally paralyse people is incredibly useful, yet rarely seen. After all, how many Jedi were able to just wave their hands and stop a squad of clone troopers from gunning them down during Order 66?

Usually its "These aren't the droids you're looking for *cross fingers and hope it works*" not "*ZAP* FREEZE! LET'S RUN!"

 

I did notice that, yes, and I'm not even much of a fleet junkie.

But as far as Zorrixor's comments go, I agree. Force-stun may not be an incredibly awe-inspiring power, but the way Hellin used it so casually, especially to disarm GA intelligence agents who were attempting to arrest him, was a bit mortifying for Leia. Plus, he was pretty dang ruthless when he started carving up those guys that had kidnapped Allana. Even Han was a little astonished by his calousness -- he severed both arms of a Barabel and I think even decapitated someone else. Not exactly sure, but I do remember thinking -- Wow. This kid does not mess around...