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Lit The Old Republic-Canon

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jid123Sheeve, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Guest

    Star Wars Explained recently did a video called STAR WARS THE OLD REPUBLIC-In the Context of New Canon, so I decided to make a thread dedicated to both the topic and video because I think the Old Republic continues to remain a fascinating era despite how vague it's been so far

     
  2. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    Man I wish Disney began to flesh out a period of the Old Republic with comic minis, staring with characters that have already been referenced.

    A mini about Tarre Vizsla and another about Momin.

    They could make both characters be apart of the same generation.
     
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  3. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I feel like if we are to follow a certain character it would be Tarre Vizsla, as he was both a jedi and Mandalorian who later became Mandalore. He could have a conflict of interest with jedi and mando's. Maybe he's a legend to both, with his excalibur sword in a jedi stone. First i think movies will happpen tough before further exploring the era.
     
  4. Something tells me that Tarre Vizsla is canon Revan
     
  5. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This guy got a few pretty basic and easily researchable things wrong in the first few seconds, which made me not bother watching the rest of the video.

    Isn't this the guy who does all the Wookieepedia videos? Just reading the article for "Old Republic era" would have solved some of his problems.
     
  6. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Elaborate?
     
  7. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He starts off by saying something like, "Well, I think in Legends the Old Republic era means any time before the movies," which means he was talking about something he didn't know for sure, was easy to find out, and was wrong.
     
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  8. Yunzabit

    Yunzabit Jedi Master star 4

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    It’s too early. I think they should continue focusing on c.40 BBY to 35 ABY for the time being. That’s where the main story is. We can save the ancient stuff for the ‘20’s.
     
  9. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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  10. Jid123Sheeve

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    I know for me personally if I were to do Old Republic movies I'd more or less sacrifice TOR and make that the Era to do it's own thing with the films
     
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  11. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    TOR is Legends.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  12. Jid123Sheeve

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    Yes I'm aware of that, I mean i'd sacrifice it being compatible with anyone One Canon head canons.
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I presume he meant in Headcanon, switching.

    EDIT: Ninja'd
     
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  14. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I think canon old republic will be both different and simillar in some ways. we see both new and old characters, it will be more an ancient time and hyperspace might just be a new thing. lightsabers are fashion of the time. the dessert worlds we know of will be green with oceans. We will see aliens that in future are extinct.
     
  15. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I expect it to largely pan out as it did, what with the Sith Empire, Hundred Years Darkness and so forth already having been mentioned.

    I mean, if I need to play the Revan and Rivan card to explain a Canon Revan in One Canon, I will. I will.

    But I would easily believe there were two (or even three) Darth Traya's in Legends so.

    At the end of the day, if they keep the Ruin-Bane-Plagueis-Sidious lynchpins to Canon (though who knows about Ruin), we'll be fine overall.

    The Ruusan Republic and Rule of Two is a retcon itself, so I'm not immensely concerned.

    As to extinctions, only the Rakata and Yuuzhan Vong are time-locked. Almost every other species, even after an extinction level event, was fine in subsequent products. points at Ithorians, Barabel, even the Yevetha
     
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  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Based off of how things look only 200 years before TPM the Old Republic period is goi g to look a lot different than its Legends counterpart
     
  17. Voltron64

    Voltron64 Jedi Master star 1

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    In my headcanon, Tarre Vizsla was a post-redeemed Revan's apprentice.

    He was a boy living with his mother Shae in Canderous' Mandalorian colony on the moon Dxun, until she gave her life fighting the forces of the Sith Triumvirate.
     
  18. Jid123Sheeve

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    I'm curious if we ever get a movie set in this time of lots of Jedi and lots Sith what the Legend equivalent of the Era will be.

    The Tales of the Jedi Era ancient stuff

    The KOTOR era

    The TOR Era

    Or the Final Sith War that leads up to Bane Era.

    My two big bets are either we tell the story of the last great Jedi-Sith war that leads up to Bane or we tell a story set in the Legends equivalent of the TOR era where the Sith Empire reigns Supreme and a Rebellion of Jedi is leading the defense against them or something.
     
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  19. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I have a feeling Tarre Vizsla is mutch older then that he inspired Revan to wear a mandalorian helmet. Tarre Vizsla might be the first of the lost 20, a jedi master who left the order and became Mandalore.
     
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  20. CLo5

    CLo5 Jedi Youngling

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    I have a feeling that High Republic and the Watiti Movie possibly being a DotJ movie, means Old republic is coming soon and they are taking their time to get there which is a good thing.
     
  21. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    There was a discussion about the Old Republic recently in another thread, though we were specifically trying to determine whether Lucas really had an Old Republic in mind himself. The point was made that it's first referenced in TCW, but the point was also made that this may have been mainly at the insistence of his collaborators, who wanted to subtly reference projects that are now considered Legends.

    The movies themselves set the Republic's birth one millennium in the past, but Lucas has a strange way of referencing dates, because Episode IV says the Jedi Knights had been guardians of the Old Republic for a thousand generations. The EU found their own solutions for these inconsistencies, with the Ruusan Reformation, and the new canon did something similar by solidifying the idea of an Old Republic that predated the one seen in the films.

    But I think it's just as likely that in Lucas's mind the newer statements are the truer ones, and the Republic really born a thousand years before the movies. It was born from the ashes of Sith conquest, and nearly died a final death due to their revenge. Interestingly, that means that it may have been as a consequence of the Sith Lords' conquest that anything resembling a galactic democratic government came about in Star Wars.

    This echoes in broad terms the real-world development of modern democracies from the Empires of the past, which were by and large the norm for the better part of the last few millennia of human history.
     
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  22. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I don't 1000 years before was the birth of the republic, more like the birth or a new regime. I think with the universe being 25 0000 years old i think it started soon after.
     
  23. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    That’s fair, and that’s what both the early drafts of Episode 4 and both Legends and Canon have mostly set up. In the novelization for the very first movie, the Republic is introduced as essentially being older than people can remember. Lucas moved away from a lot of what was presented then, but it fits with Obi-Wan’s statements.

    I do want to point out I’m not a fan of the literal 25,000 years. Its origins work best for me as being vaguely set in ancient, legendary time, with both the Republic’s and the Jedi’s origins being lost to history.
     
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  24. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I like at is soo ancient that it starts to become myth and legend as the jedi and Luke is described as by himself and Rey. I bet the early republic was small that overtime became an empire.
     
  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if these various periods are condensed into a single Sith period of history. I mean, the New Sith Wars are a 1,000 years themselves, I could easily see most of the events and characters of all of these eras fitting quite comfortably in that period with room to spare.

    As for lead up to Bane vs jedi rebellion against supreme sith...again I could see both. I mean, look at Knight Errant - a story about a lone jedi spreading hope and rebellion in a Sith dominated galaxy, and that is only about 30 years before the rise of Darth Bane.

    If it were up to me, that would be the legends narrative to modify and bring into canon: a story of jedi ronin wandering around doing good and bringing hope in a galaxy full of feuding Sith Lords, with the jedi building momentum for rebellion while the sith destroy themselves in civil war, transitioning to more open war as the Army of Light is formed and the Brotherhood of Darkness arising in opposition, culminating in something similar to the final clash in the Jedi vs Sith Comic with Bane tricking the Brotherhood into destroying itself and founding the rule of two.