ST The Rey Parentage Thread (with new poll; see notes on page 2447)

I think the real questions we should be asking is, why was Rey dumped on Jakku? and why did nobody come back for her?

 

Correct. She's the genetically engineered offspring of Anakin Skywalker.

Her mother is Jyn Erso... love of the life of Luke Skywalker and killed by Kylo Ren @ the Academy.

Neither were in Episode VII. Rey thinks about Jyn a lot.

 

BTW, if Rey is genetically engineered from Luke's hand that don't make her Luke's kid.

 

Whend did they do that? JJ walked it back. And I've seen nothing from Daisy or Pablo that kills it, only some of the other wilder theories.

 

Ya no

 

Oh my I missed some posts, I think I'll just....

 

Please go back to about page 240 and read onwards.

Your statement can be seen to be bating, but I will be kind and assume that you haven't been following the fun and games happening over the past few weeks.

 

when are people going to get that no one is going to hint or say who Rey really is until the movie comes out. Ridley's teasing is not a hint of who she isn't, she's know who are parents are since filming VII and people have been asking her who they are since her Japan tour almost a year ago and she's never leaned in any way. Pablo beyond clarifications hasn't done anything, he only dismisses ridiculous theories. JJ near release said that it's not his job to say who Rey is or isn't since that falls on Johnson and he would be disappointed if he said anything. Nor is him saying something at a Q/A and than clarifying what he meant after EW went to talk to him themselves after the Q/A was over. Which would mean he clarified himself because EW most likely asked him what he meant by that statement.

 

Advance copies of Bloodline went out this week, and some people have been posting their reactions. Not a major spoiler, but there was this mention of timeline.

If this timeline is accurate, then it would narrow down Rey's backstory possibilities right?

If Luke is Rey's father, I don't think the backstory would involve Luke abandoning his own child, giving her to foster parents, or going to Ahch-to while knowing that someone else had placed her in such severe conditions on Jakku because those three options would generate a representation of Luke as an incredibly cruel father.

There appear to be two broad routes for a Rey Skywalker backstory then. She's on Jakku by age 5 and Luke's re-burgeoning Jedi order falls apart within the 6 years prior to TFA so (1) at minimum, there is an 8 year time frame during which Luke is either preoccupied by the loss of his known loved ones and thus distracted from full-strength guardianship of the new Jedi trainees, or (2) Luke didn't know he had a daughter at all.

 

You do realize that after Luke had his hand chopped off, he would never again own that lightsaber... RIGHT?

She was holding Her Mother's Lightsaber.

Nope... Maz wasn't going to try to explain it to her now that she knows who Rey is. Have fun with that, Luke!

 

Who mentioned Luke's hand?

She's the genetically engineered offspring of Anakin Skywalker.

His sperm + Jyn Erso's egg + The Emperor's scientists fiddling with the genome = Rey.

Its already been established that Humans + The Emperor's scientists fiddling with the genome to add programming = new stormtroopers.

 

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This is probably the only way now Rey can be Luke's. Some how Skywife knew Ben Solo was being watched by Snoke. If this was through the Force or if Luke told her is not vital. The pregnant Skywife knew her unborn child was next so she left Luke not telling him she was pregnant.

 

or Luke's wife and kid did not live with him, the Jedi Order is not a safe place, the only fully trained person is Luke and he won't stay at the Order all the time. Anytime he leaves, the Order can be an easy target. So think of Luke's Order as a boarding Luke, with headmaster Luke, most headmasters don't have their families with them or think of him as a dad who works offworld and visits here and there. Snoke was interested in Kylo because he's descendant of Anakin so it makes sense that he would also target Rey and given that she's just a child, an even easier target to manipulate.

 

Rather than wax all philosophic on Rey and Ren's character arcs, I thought I'd keep it simple:

Rey ? = hero journey (see Joseph Campbell)
Ben Solo aka Kylo Ren = tragic hero (see Aristotle)

 

I think the voice Rey hears being a male one discards any possible mother being the one that dropped her on Jakku. If Rey is a Skywalker, we are missing some key data most likely, but the theories that say all her pains come from an unknown mother and Luke was not involved on her abondonement are all wrong IMO.

I think the more data we have the more likely will be that only Luke or Kylo could have dropped her on Jakku.

 

Rey may be a hero journey but it's been really badly done, so much so it's not an actual journey.
Kylo is hardly a tragic hero either, the whole keeping the ashes of his victims is a very creepy serial killerish vibe.

 

IKR, what a wonderful way to end the Skywalker bloodline if we get Rey Random. And 4 all u younglings who say Syco Ren will be redeemed like Vader most of the truly bad stuff we saw Vader did on film came years latter. Had I saw the Saga as 1 2 3 4 5 6 it would have been very hard for me to accept Vader's turnaround.

 

That's what I meant with "it can mean multiple things at ones"
And the "with your help" line is omitted from the movie itself, why? Not everybody read the novel (also not in the final script)....so for me how it's presented to the audience in TFA is leading.

 

I've found another (second hand) tweet saying that Luke has already gone and Kylo is already dark:

Many people were insisting that Kylo either turned during or after the events of Bloodline, because some tweets indicated that Han and Leia were still together. That doesn't seem to be the case, since Kylo is apparently already dark. As one of the people who always believed Bloodline would be set after Kylo's fall, I feel vindicated! It's so exciting to begin narrowing the timeline down.

 

When did Ben go dark? Age 10 at Rey's birth? At 15 wen Rey was dropped off on Jakku? Or just b4 Bloodlines?

 

I've posted it several times that it doesn't make sense that Kylo would turn dark that late, it all happened more early.

 

We don't quite know yet. We're hoping that Bloodline will tell us. I think the timeline is increasingly looking like he turned between the ages of 16 and 22.

I agree with you. It's just that there were tweets from the publisher that some interpreted as meaning that Han and Leia were still together in Bloodline. And since TFA indicates that they only broke up after Ben's fall, many people insisted that Ben could only turn during or after the events of Bloodline.