RJ Trilogy The Rian Johnson Trilogy

In my opinion, Rian Johnson's understanding of the characters he worked with in Episode VIII was shallow. He tore down character development from prior films rather than built up characters. His work with the actors in Ep. VIII paints them as stick figures with labels attached.

In regards to a Johnson SW trilogy as reported by media (thread topic), my view is that it could be cancelled due to backlash from Episode VIII. There was a misstep by someone saying he could create a SW trilogy before the release of Ep. VIII. https://www.starwars.com/news/rian-...last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy

 

Apologies for that, will take note.

 

no way does this trilogy get made. it would be like disney hiring george lucas back after the godawful prequels. that's why he sold the franchise. no one would come see the films after his last efforts. disney can't afford to make the same mistake with rian. who would they sell it to? paramount maybe. doubt it.

 

@MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools why are you trying to get yourself banned? You acting
Iike this is what gives those of us with the same opinion about Johnson a bad reputation.

If disney had taken Lucas' ST story, improved the dialogue (Lucas' weakness seen in the PT) and just had the movie directors do what they are good at and direct, not write, then everyone would be wanting to watch Episode IX. If Disney would hire a real writer for Johnson to work with then I would be ok with this new trilogy going ahead. But if Johnson is writing again (he really is not a good story writer) then I fear the worst.

Also @mods,admin can this chap be forced a name change?

 

i'm just giving my opinion. i think the prequels were bad. they forced lucas to sell the franchise to disney. disney won't make the same mistake with rian. i bet he gets quietly pushed aside once kennedy leaves in 3 years.

 

I think he will be given his trilogy, i'm sure he will have a co-writer like jj has in episode IX. They will make sure that this won't get blacklashed like TLJ. they don't want another fan war after TLJ.

 

Yes, but you have a very antagonistic way of voicing your opinion. I know I can be at fault of this too now and then if I come here when I'm not in the best mood. The PT wasn't god awful. They were mediocre directed, with Lucas' bad dialogue (OT dialogue was improved by a number of Lucas' friends and family), but underneath this is the great story which is what the fans are appreciating more today.

Saying Lucas had to sell LFL because of the PT is also silly. You are basically saying that an episode VII written by Lucas and directed by Abrams wouldn't have been successful.

 

Wow, I don't feel free to express my opinions at all here in this area of the boards.

Asking someone to change their screen name... Telling someone they will be banned because they didn't like the Prequels...

There should be nothing wrong with expressing opinions against the Prequels. If we cannot express dislike for a trilogy of films, there is a serious problem. And also, cool name @MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools I welcome your screen name and your opinions. I especially welcome your opinions about George Lucas.

 

Opinions and critism is alright but it only goes so far.

 

Not that this thread isn't almost always a complete cesspool, but please get back on topic and stop discussing each other's opinions.

 

There is nothing selective about these comments. These comments that are presented in this video are complete and well structured whole sentences, which express Rian Johnson's opinions about film making, and his goals when he makes films. If anything, the guy appears to be very consistent with his mentality throughout the years. How many times does someone have to straight up say that his goal is to make films that some people love and some people hate, before we have to accept it as his true and consistent opinion about film making? He literally mentioned that specific component of his creative process in an interview for every single film that he has made.

Also, noone said that a Star Wars movie should be made with the goal of uniting people. However, it should also not be made with the goal to divide people! Rian Johnson literally said that if a movie is loved by some and hated by others, it is a sign of success for him. Wow, so edgy, but not an objective measure of success.

I really hope he has learned a lesson after the TLJ backlash and that he does not go with the same mentality when creating his own trilogy. Dividing people based on their opinions is definitely not a right way to create art, even if it has some appeal. Sometimes people need a good shock from a movie, but purposefully trying to make art that will shock, usually does not end up well. Since it appears that we will be getting these movies, I really hope we get some quality films, that do not have such an agenda.

PS. Not every Star Wars movie has a positive reception by all available measurements. That's a false statement.

 

I don't interpret it as if his ultimate goal when making movies was to divide the audience.

He wants to make movies that make people talk, argue, think, discuss and etcetera, and this kind of conversation is more fruitful when there are disparate opinions, because it is this kind of movies that makes for the most interesting talk.

I constantly have them with friends, and even in a podcast dedicated to cinema in which I participate.

And wanting that as a director isn't being edgy, but being relieved to know that his movies meant enough to the audience that it made them argue about them. Believe me, because I personally know of particular cases, when I say that one of the worst things for a filmmaker is to make a movie no one talks about.

 

I don't want @MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools to get banned. I agree with him(?) that Rian Johnson should not have a new trilogy. I too am sometimes scared to voice my opinions here, I was banned for having the "wrong" opinion in a thread last year. I have learnt that you have to step carefully, If you put your opinion across politely you will probably be ok. If you do it wrong you will get called a troll and get a warning, which @MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools has already had. Also the user name automatically brings the word troll into star wars fan's mind, maybe this was unintentional, I don't know.

 

I can assure you all that regardless of what Rian Johnson has said about his film-making process in the past, he did not want to divide the Star Wars fanbase in an absolute sense. If you think his intention was for some significant percentage of fans to hate TLJ, the biggest break of his career, then you're several orders of magnitude...hmm...how to phrase this...less adept at understanding the world around you than you think he is.

 

This is the 4th of 5th time you are implying that other people on these forums are stupid, just because they have a different opinion than you. Not nice.

 

This is not accurate. Please stop lying about me. You've done it 4 or 5 times now. I would never suggest someone is stupid just because they have a different opinion than I do. I won't stand for your defamatory statements.

 

Clearly I'm not typing in a language anyone here understands, so let me put it in simpler terms: next person who posts off-topic below this warning will be banned, no questions asked.

 

The Rian Johnson Trilogy.

Discuss.

 

I feel like I can safely lock the thread; this is pretty much it. That's the whole thing, right there.

 

Noo! I want to talk about Rian Johnson's trilogy.

 

**** off and do that in some other thread not titled "The Rian Johnson Trilogy." This isn't the place for that.