ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

It was confirmed by the novelization that Snoke was in Rey's head when she slashed Kylo across his face, telling her to "kill him". Snoke probably see's more potential in Rey as an apprentice than in Kylo.

 

Well, thread is back

The filmakers and AD worked very hard for you to. They really went out of their way to show a well rounded villian.

And, tbh, for me having to constantly talk about Kylo makes me that much more invested in him as a character (all according to keikaku...)

 

moonjump05
(TRANSLATOR'S NOTE: Keikaku means plan)
No, but yeah. The more I talk about Kylo Ren, the more interested I become in him. It's the same with Rey and Reylo in general. I'm getting way too invested way too quickly...

 

Interesting. There are plenty of opportunities that Kylo could have killed Rey but he didn't. I'm curious if he might have seen her from a vision similar to Rey's.

Granting they're not related, there is a potential especially if it's associated with Kylo's redemption.

 

plan in japanese, i presume?

i agree they made ALL the effort for me to now sit here and be massively invested. i get a strange feeling that it is easier undrstood by women. i guess it's to do with feelings *groan* i mean in the sense that men are afraid of their feelings and we understand feelings better? does that make sense?

 

In the context of the film, his leaving her alive is pretty easy to explain:

-He wants her to tell him where BB-8 is initially.
-Then he finds out that she's seen the map, so he takes her instead (thinking that he can just get the map from her head, which she needs to be alive for him to do).
-Then she resists him, so he goes and immediately tells Snoke (who then orders him to bring Rey back ALIVE).
-And yes, he seems intrigued by her abilities, hence his offer to teach her at the end.

 

Just got through my blizzard induced PT & OT Binge and I am now even more convinced that Rey is a Kenobi.

 

i only ever had one film at home, ROTS. one film! and i cannot bloody find it!

 

hey, I was 'hunting' for Reylo posts and came across this one...

http://skylorennn.tumblr.com/post/136374130061/light-and-dark-thoughts-on-rey-and-kylo-ren

 

Funny you should mention this...most of the women I know like Kylo Ren and most of the guys I know find him "whiny" and not evil enough....his character tends to polarise people...

 

i have found that even when i like the same things as my brother, i like them for completely different reasons. that said, the people i'm still friends with off the boards from back in the glory days of the prequels, they are just generally enthusiastic over TFA. i did post the ohtze essay on my facebook and people liked it. but then they are women so it's like i'm polling the people i used to hang out with in the anakin thread then very biased bunch we are

my mum seemed quite invested in the film as well. but she couldn't remember much of it (i think it just moves along very quickly) and i felt the same. spending time here is like heightening my sense of each of the scenes even if i haven't actually seen them that much. it's a weird effect. i haven't seen any of the star wars movies a lot so i'm living on my gut instinct of how something progressed or whatever. and i think star wars just exists in a weird and different category to other films, it is so purely cinematic and whilst i can see its flaws, they never really figure into my enjoyment. when i'm in normal mode (not fangirling), i'm super-critical. star wars disables my critical facilites

 

It could go this way too, but I think we've already seen Kylo falling into the deepest dark hole when he killed Han Solo, what can be worse than that? What else do you expect him to do? Killing his mother? That would be a bit too much... He's been a villain, molded by Snoke for years, his turning point was killing his own father and he did it but instead of making him stronger, it made him weaker and that should be a sign. The scar on his face will be also a living sign of the girl from the light side who defeated him without any previous training. The dark side's appeal for Kylo is strong but through all these years with Snoke he hasn't been able to get rid of the light that there's still within him and in the mext movie, Luke is coming back and Rey, the girl who has a Force-bond with him will be trained by Luke, so anything could happen.

 

You know I was looking at this exchange and I found it rather interesting that he uses that word for what is going on. Mind you Pablo is a writer, we tend to twist and turn words all the time in order to hide things from readers or fans so that we can give them an answer and not give them an answer. So when the girl was asking about the pulling info from Poe's mind he used tortuous, rather then torturous, which is two very different things.

Tortuous is " full of twists, turns, or bends; twisting, winding, or crooked: a tortuous path.

not direct or straightforward, as in procedure or speech; intricate; circuitous: tortuous negotiations lasting for months.

deceitfully indirect or morally crooked, as proceedings, methods, or policy; devious.

: having many twists and turns
: complicated, long, and confusing"

All of which is actually true. He's twisting and turning and bending things in Poe's mind as he digs around. It's a devious way of getting things, morally crooked, and deceitful in every sense of the word. I really do find it interesting if he didn't misspeak here and really did mean that what Ben did to Poe was twisted and devious, rather then out right painful.

Bear in mind that pulling things from people's minds have been used by the X-Men in the past with the likes of Professor X where he's read the mind of characters before. When they are willing to let him in their mind, it can give the person a headache, but mostly it's a very quiet experience, it's only when someone is literally fighting back that the person is in pain. It's not from the invasion itself, it's from the person having to over power the other person's barriers and traps and fight their way through to get to what they need to know. It can leave not only the person that is being looked into drained, but also the person who's doing the mind digging drained as well. So the fact that Ben is even standing after dealing with Poe, and the fact that Poe is able to walk after a while means that both are a lot stronger then we think.

 

i have finished my crochet lightsabres! i'm so proud! does anyone know how to link to pics hosted on facebook or am i dreaming that this is possible.

 

Ditto on this, most men want their Villain to be invincible like Vadar.

 

Copy/paste usually works for me

 

Aleluyah the thread is unlocked!

I love it, it's telling when more and more people see the potential in a Kylo&Rey storyline.

It would be the most compelling and fascinating plot. The fight between Dark and Light, the struggle to pull each other towards their own side, the mutual understanding of their fears and weaknesses as they interact together, the confidence, their growing feelings along the passing time... my wishful thinking

Have a nice Sunday everybody!

 

thing is, vader is so not invincible. it baffles me that the perception is that a villain is only good when they are *pure* or something like that. vader was awesome, in the sense of being in awe of him. and then lucas deconstructed him and everyone was upset. in TFA, they are doing the deconstruction all in one film and then people are upset again. but what good is the story if nobody ever develops? TFA is very character driven, i think that's why i love it, and i'm hoping that plot won't really interfere with that. i love mood pieces.

 

yay! will really need to photograph them in snow

 

Thing is too, that the comics continue in this vein, with Vader having flashbacks to happy times with Padme, ones that are almost longing or sentimental.

And Vader has this pseudo- romantic relationship with Aphra, a character who is dark!Padme while riding around on a Naboo yacht with evil 3PO and R2 stand ins, yet the response to this has been generally enthusiastic...

 

did you guys see the robocop remake? (i can't vouch for the old robocop, i haven't seen that) i rather like body horror so i guess that's why i found it appealing, but it struck that even though the film introduces the couple, before he becomes robocop, to some sexy time, it is never addressed how the sexy time would pan out after he is robocop. ... but anyway, i digress

 

If The Force can create Anakin its not to crazy for it to make two people connect with each other. After reading this I'm starting to wonder if they're Force Bond started before the interrogation scene?

Also when Rey had her force vision was she experiencing Kylo's memories too? It would explain why the temple slaughter was part of the sequence, despite Rey not being there when it happened?

 

Darth Dementor I've read somewhere that Pablo Hidalgo said that her vision wasn't the Jedi Temple massacre. He added that it was "elsewhere"...

Maybe Rey will be saved by Kylo in Episode VIII. Moreover, IMO, "It is you" either means that:

1. She's the Awakening somehow
2. She's the girl he "dreamt of" for a long time (force bond) as some people mentioned

I doubt they had met each other before.