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The (slight) movement of FFUK/BIFF to the European Umbrella!

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Darth_Asabrush, Aug 12, 2002.

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  1. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There is discussion at present about the movement of this place to the European area of FF. We are, at present the only European FF group not to be there anyway.

    I would be interested in your views on this matter before any decision is made.

    The way I see it is this. It makes sense to be part of the wider European FF community. The aim is to promote greater co-operation between all European FF groups. I also see it as a sensible housekeeping exercise and making FF more consistant. Tidying up elements by real grouping if you will.

    Another advantage that has been mentioned is that it would promote the cover of RSAs, and I stress this point, IF NEEDED. At times when there is a lack of cover it would make it easier for other European RSAs to come in and check things out (again, only of needed).

    I see no major reason not to move but your opinions would be appreciated!



    Thoughts?

    Cheers

    D_A



    PS: For the sake of full disclosure this is what I had to say in the Old Folks Home (Mod board) on the matter:

    Hi everyone! I support the move back to the Europe category 100%. However, an open discussion with the BIFF members will be needed. I'm sure no one will really object but I'm a big supporter of open decision making!

    I'll start the discussion either in Comms or BIFF in the next couple of days once I get my head around the whole RSA thing!

    Is that ok with everyone?

    Stu


    EDIT: We would keep our name, banner and icon.
     
  2. TK_Four_Two_One

    TK_Four_Two_One Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm for it- cuz i dont care were we move. we'll still all be together- its just a different section to click! and more people maybe visit and vice versa! big thumbs up from me!!!

    [image=http://www.restaurante.com/images/dinner%20vignettes/thumbs-up.jpg]


    sorry, i'm a bit hyper at the mo cuz i've been up all nite!!! :p
     
  3. LadyVader81

    LadyVader81 Jedi Knight star 6

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    I knew this was coming as Germany recently got put into it ;)

    I have no problem with it but then I visit other European boards. Also I organised a European meetup recently and would make us a larger community rather than just lil old us.
     
  4. DARK_SCORE

    DARK_SCORE Jedi Master star 4

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    Will it enable us to get cheaper travel to Holland?!? ?[face_plain]
     
  5. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You never know D_S, you never know......
     
  6. westford

    westford Jedi Padawan star 4

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    May 25, 2002
    Will we have to convert to the Euro? :p

    I don't mind - I was wondering why we weren't in there anyway.
     
  7. Beckymonster

    Beckymonster Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Nov 28, 2001
    The idea is a sound one and I say yea.

    As D_A has pointed out we keep our 'identity' as BIFF but we're under the main banner of Europe... which politics aside (RL ones) is a good thing as we're part of that continent! ;)

    Also, as we only have one mod at present, the 'back-up' brought about by the other mods would be useful... so long as they tread lightly...

    One major bust-up is more than enough thanks! ;)
     
  8. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, the additional mod back up would only be used if needed. For example: If something major was happening and I wasn't around etc...
     
  9. DARK_SCORE

    DARK_SCORE Jedi Master star 4

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    Oct 26, 2000
    It's really not a problem - maybe we can forge closer links with the Italians and start importing cheap parmesan?!?

    There are no negative aspects to the move and there must be lots of benefits...
     
  10. TK_Four_Two_One

    TK_Four_Two_One Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    sure i'll be able to deputise when D_A is not around- considering it was a close call between me and him to get the RSA post!!
























































    :p and pigs were flying that day too!!!
     
  11. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My only concern is about the "cultural gap".

    I.e. Are the mods fleunt enough in English and "The British Mentality" not to have a "Rox" type situation again.

    (If they get called up in an emergency!)

    There is nothing worse then a mod "modding" outside there area of expertese.

    As long as we have that confirmed, I can't see that the move would do any harm.

    UKS

    EDIT: Having said that, the board layout when you click down is an absolute mess.
    See here!

    They need to sort that out.

     
  12. DARK_SCORE

    DARK_SCORE Jedi Master star 4

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    Just think of all that cheese we could be eating though:

    [image=http://www.konsum.se/konsum/articles/2000-2099/2080/parmesan.jpg]


    Parmigiano Reggiano!
    :cool:
     
  13. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    UKS, I agree with you on your cultural modding concerns. I think we would need clarification regarding this matter.

     
  14. Yoshi-Toshi

    Yoshi-Toshi Jedi Knight star 5

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    Mar 12, 2002
    Well the idea get's a big thumbs up from me.

    But, i do have the same concern as UKS.
     
  15. Red-Seven

    Red-Seven Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is being driven by the Labour Government, isn't it? Trying to soften up public opinion for the common currency, by lumping our discussion board next to those Continentals??

    Insidious! Dastardly! Sleezy!

    :p
     
  16. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Nov 4, 1998
    Well I might say that the Nordic countries contains two countries without the Euro, and one outside of the European Union!

    Secondly the board layout is not a mess, it's supposed to be that way. First the general European board, then the countries that aren't big enough to be their own regions, and then the separate regions alphabetically.

    I would be happy if you would join us. :)
     
  17. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    LOL! They'll try anything those darn Blairites! ;)

    OA, if BIFF/FFUK was to make the move would all our regions remain together under the main BIFF/FFUK or would they be alphabetical within the other European regions.

    Does that make sense????
     
  18. DARK_SCORE

    DARK_SCORE Jedi Master star 4

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    File everything under BIFF/FF-UK and then file that somewhere in Europe. Preferably somewhere sunny with good food and cheap booze...
     
  19. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I can see that you meant it to be that way ,Obi-Anne. But compared to present layout it IS a mess.

    If the forums could work like this:

    Europe/BIFF/Biff internal areas.

    It would look a lot better rather then:

    Europe/Biff Internal Areas.

    If that makes sense? ?[face_plain]

    At the moment, it's too "busy" on the eyes, and though I agree that Fanforce dominates the main "boards" page a little too much, I would say that this layout you have chosen doesn't work.

    From an asthetic point of view.

    UKS

     
  20. Charis

    Charis Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Jun 29, 2002
    It makes sense to put us under Europe. Would also mean that Eire could be separated from the BIFF/FFUK group since it's a separate entity in its own right. Same could be said of Scotland, Wales and N.I. depending on their members' wishes.
     
  21. Voren

    Voren Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Apr 25, 2002
    Hi

    Therefore we should be filed under Italy.

    Lots of Pizza and Pasta
    Loads of fast cars for the lads
    Great shopping for the ladies

    (Starts painitng a blue flag with yellow stars!)

    I do not have any problem with the move at all, either way it goes. I agree that language could be an issue, but this could be overcome without too much difficulty.

    Yes, there could be mod related issues, but since things have clamed down a bit round here this is not a really serious issue.

    I am not a big fan of moving into Europe in real life, but anyhting that allows SW fans to meet and chat is a good thing.

    V.
     
  22. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'd agree that maybe Eire could go its own way as there seems very little interaction between the UK and Eire here. However, I think the regions within the UK should stay together!
     
  23. DARK_SCORE

    DARK_SCORE Jedi Master star 4

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    The whole British Isles 'folder' should just be moved into the Europe Folder.

    It should be the same for everything in Europe - click on 'Italy' to bring up another page and delve into north and south.

    I agree with UKS - it is too bitty and busy
     
  24. Charis

    Charis Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Yes, I agree :D Otherwise BIFF/FFUK seems kinda redundant ;)
     
  25. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My previous message was Redundant.

    Anyway, are they doing the same thing to the US regions, or are we (europe) be being reduced in "menu importance" to a 51st state?

    UKS

     
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