The Star Wars Visionaries book= N-level canon but why isn't C-level?

There isn't anything much in there from what I can see that conflicts with the rest of the EU. In fact the background story of how General Grevious came to be is actually backed up in the ROTS novelisation. The first story where Maul in cyborg form hunts down Obi-Wan on Tatooine is the only story that probably deserves N-level canon status, but even then that's not really any worse than bringing back Palpatine in cloned form.

 

Actually I'm fairly sure it's the more abstract stories in there that keep it from being declared C-Canon. If anything, the Grievous and Maul/Obi-Wan stories are the most likely to be declared "canon" (particularly the former). But at the same time, the Grievous story seems to be getting contradicted by the Clone Wars cartoon.

 

The entire book is canon except for the Obi-Wan/Maul story.

 

The dancing space Jedi are canon? Good grief...

Interesting though if this means Sithisis is canon...

 

It wouldn't have been entirely impossible for Maul to survive being sliced in two if the wound was instantly causterised preventing all his insides from leaking out all over the place out as would normally occur. It's more the fall that would be the issue, but Luke survived a similar kind of fall down a bottomless shaft. So you easily could well C-level canon the Maul story as well.

 

You do realize that being cloven in two at waist height would absolutely destroy certain vital organs right? Let alone the fact that a lightsaber superheats just about anything it touches... there's a good chance those major organs had their fluids vaporized and would've exploded causing serious internal injuries... let alone them already having been halved. It's not as if his legs were simply cut off... his intestines, kidneys, liver, etc would've been seriously damaged. Maul didn't crawl away from that one, not even if he survived the fall itself. Which I doubt. Plus, who knows where that led to? Some sort of energy reactor pit? Given the surroundings, wouldn't surprise me. I don't think there was a janitor with a push broom waiting at the bottom...

 

As far as I know it's medically possible to live without a lower body, though you would have various problems.

 

There's a bit of a difference between losing a portion of your lower body (say if you were cut just above the crotch...*shudders*) and being completely halved, as was the case with Maul. There might be precedent for it being possible with Maw (though I'm not sure how much of his lower half Maw lost), but in conjuncture with the fall, I think Maul's survival would be silly.

 

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_a_human_survive_being_cut_in_half_at_the_waist_if_the_person_who_did_it_was_not_a_surgeon_but_someone_with_knowledge_of_how_to_stop_the_bleeding_and_avoid_infection

"Hypothetically if someone stood perfectly straight and you were able to cut them incredibly fast and parallel to the ground and the person did not move the slightest then yes it could be possible"

 

Albino Cylcops, Sithisis, and The Fourth Precept are totally canon, since they're the in-universe, drug-induced hallucinations of Tambor, Palps, and someone who's "anybody's guess."

 

"Old Wounds," the cyborg-Maul story, has actually been referenced in Abel Peña's article, "The Story of General Grievous: Lord of War." From Abel's endnotes:

Does this make the story C-canon?

 

Doubtful. That's something of an Easter Egg, a wink at continuity conscious fans. We, out of universe, know the intent there, but it's highly unlikely LFL will allow anything less ambiguous than a reference to some cyborg following Obi. As it stands, the cyborg could be anybody. Ventress, Vader, that one guy that Kenobi "killed" in Silent Drifting, come back to take his revenge...

Uncle Owen's badassery, however, is fully canon.

 

If Boba Fett can survive being eaten by the Sarlacc then Maul could equally well survive being cut in two and falling and a shaft, just say he called up the power of the darkside to sustain him as he fell. This being Star Wars it would fit into the continuity no problems.

 

The main difference is that there is a very specific detailing of how Fett survived the Sarlacc. You can speculate all the live long day about Maul, but there's nothing to support his survival whatsoever.

 

It's highly unlikely he would have survived that, but highly unlikely things happen in Star Wars, particulaly when the Force is involved. Another thing to bear in mind is that he was a zabrak not a human, they could easily just not have anything vital in that half of their body for all we know. As for the fall he could have used the Force to cushion his impact as he did in Shadow Hunter and/or he fell into a liquid at the bottom.

 

Here's the thing Tyber. You want Darth Maul to have survived, so you're going to argue any point that any of us might bring up about why that wouldn't make sense. That's fine, because everyone is welcome to hold their own beliefs when it comes to Star Wars...but that doesn't make it canon. Whether you (and by you I mean everyone, not you specifically) like it or not, its considered non-canon. So regardless of whether or not Maul could've survived his wound and subsequent fall, he didn't.

 

Wow, I cant believe anyone would even think of darth maul surviveing. I cant think of any star wars character I thought of as more dead than him. I think their would be a better chance of qui gon or mace windu shaking off their wounds and limping off into the sunset.

 

We've already established that it would be physically possible to survive being cut in half by a lightsaber if the wound is instantly causterised, the subject stood perfectly still (and Maul was standing like a statue in that scene) and the blow was swift and parralle to the ground. At least you could possibly survive long enough to seek medical attention after such an injury. So Maul's death is only 99.9~% certain, bringing him back like that would be entirely unfeasible. It may still be slightly off the wall and silly but in Star Wars you can get away with that kind of thing more often than not.

 

It doesn't matter though man. Even if it was possible (and I'll admit there is a slight possibility, if they wanted to canonize "Old Wounds", but this is Star Wars, not X-Men), the fact is that he did not survive. Even if there is a .01% possibility of him surviving those wounds, the Powers That Be have already chosen not to take advantage of that and to leave him dead. Arguing whether or not he could have survived is really a moot point, because his survival has already been depicted and categorized as non-canon.

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"Your Darth Maul is dead son, accept it."

 

You may as well make the whole book C-canon or none of it at all. In Old Wounds Owen Lars shoots him in the head with a blaster anyway so increasing Mauls chances of being utterly dead to 100%, even if he ended up clomping around on robot legs say 15 years after TPM trying to find Obi-Wan. But if Old Wounds isn't canon it also means Watto wouldn't really have got his comeuppance.

 

While I'm not arguing for "Old Wounds" to be made C-Canon, I rather liked the story, and quite frankly, Maul surviving his "ordeal" on Naboo would hardly be all that outlandish within the Star Wars setting. It isn't as if there's no precedent for people surviving horrendous injuries and continuing on as cyborg monstrosities....Or force-users living through very long falls.

 

What in Ackbar's toilet is an N-canon?

You know what -- I ... I don't want to know!

 

N-canon just means it's something that never actually happened within the fictional setting.

 

I don't understand... If something didn't happen, then it merely didn'ty happen. Why does it need a quasi-religious label like [insert letter]-canon?

 

The N just stands for not as in "not canon".