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Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by Sinrebirth , Jan 19, 2013.

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  1. benknobi1

    benknobi1 Force Ghost star 6

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    The senator of Corellia kindly requests that the current budget be posited in plain view so that all members may legislate responsibly and craft legislation accordingly. Otherwise we are all operating blind-folded. Thank you.
     
  2. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Senator benknobi-

    We will do so in very short order.
     
  3. benknobi1

    benknobi1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Why - that is most excellent esteemed CoS. I look forward to seeing it in the future. :)
     
  4. General Immodet

    General Immodet Jedi Master star 5

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    I thank you all for reporting to the Senate. Hopefully, you all stay around for some time.
    If anyone of you want to bring up a new issue, feel free to let me know.

    I have just made some advertisement for the Senate Game!
    Hopefully, some new members will join our ranks!

    May the Force be with you!
     
  5. Jedi General Gelderd

    Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master star 5

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    *appears via Hologram videoscreen*

    I apologise for the delay in brining about my report, it's taking a little longer to amass the information I need to be certain to take this Senate forward. I assure you it will be present within days.

    Thank you for your patience. :)
     
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  6. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Thank you General Gelderd-

    benknobi1 Senator benknobi

    The budget remaining for this year is 151 Trillion Credits. Approximately 40% is currently allocated to the military and security forces. Another 35% is allocated for non-discretionary spending on non-military matters. The remaining 25% is available to be allocated for additional initiatives or contingency operations. Shifting funds between each of the three pots of money are allowed and are my discretion.

    When seeking funding your legislation, please indicate the approximate cost of implementing your initiative. The funds are available only through the end of the fiscal year, when they expire and are returned pro rata to the systems who contributed via taxes.
     
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  7. General Immodet

    General Immodet Jedi Master star 5

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    Apparently, my advertisment program did not have many success.
    They even blocked the thread I created on the 'New Members Board'.
    Hopefully, some of them will still join up...
     
  8. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Mr Speaker-

    Your efforts are appreciated. Let us now turn our attention to the business of legislating.
     
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  9. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    OOC: at least the mods are kind enough not delete the entire post, so that is something.
     
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  10. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    OOC: I take full responsibility for General Immodet recruiting in the New Member's board. Any sanctions should be levied against me and not him.
     
  11. General Immodet

    General Immodet Jedi Master star 5

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    Sanctions? They would not dare...
     
  12. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    *Rises - Looking Solemn*

    Distinguished colleagues-

    A grave emergency has befallen me on a personal level. Close family members have suffered a grievous medical malady and are not expected to recover. Thus, I am taking emergency leave for the next week or so to visit my dying Kin on Tatooine.

    In my stead, I appoint the VCoS, and in his absence, the Speaker to act with my full authority until such time as I can return from Tatooine. I have full confidence in both of them. If need be, I can be reached via secure emergency hologram transmitter. The frequency is 12345.6789

    *Leaves Senate Chamber*

    OOC: I will be out of town until June 30th and will be away from the JCF.
     
  13. Jedi General Gelderd

    Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master star 5

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    Senators, I apologise for being absent most of this week in these changing times.

    It passed my mind when I thought I had mentioned, but checking back I hadn't - I am currently on holiday from regular duties here on Tython and am not in contact with my communications as much as normal this week.

    However I am back in the office this Monday when pressing duties commence, hence why I am trying to keep up as best as possible! Thank you for understanding and I assure you I am keeping an eye on things.



    OOC: I AM actually on holiday and not at my work computer 8 hours a day as usual - but Monday, I will be and back in touch more! :)
     
  14. aalagartassle

    aalagartassle Jedi Master star 4

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    I accept this appointment from the Senate chief with grave responsibility.

    I ask the senate to openly discuss a solution for funding this war. I also ask the senate to discuss a funding arrangement with Mandalore Bardan_Jusik . We need covert operatives to infiltraite the enemy and find apparent and tactical weaknessess that is, Once the general jedi has made his formal assessment . I also ask if any other system has resources or assets to help with this endevour?
     
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  15. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    our Senators are away on business trips,

    and are dropping from the senate like flies.

    It's the Vong I tell you!!! the Vong!!

    *sits back down more composed in my pod*

    *sips water*
     
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  16. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    The Senator of Naboo wishes the best for our Chief of State and offers her deepest condolences. *bows head gracefully*

    *looks to Aalagar, then the rest of the senate*

    OOC: I'm going to try to retcon here. Hang on. :p

    I feel the most simple option is allocating our funds from my original preposition as Chief of State into this war fund.
    It was devoted to the now-defunct NGE military and law enforcement, and has been split into a few smaller planetary armies as of now.

    Removing the tax income from them and directing it back to our military would be beneficial.

    It is a portion of a $2000 tax and a 3.0% and 4.5% tax, outlined here:


    Since this was never repealed, it ends up as a new source of funding that should be utilised.
    The smaller planets will not be pleased to lose their current income but it will help fund the war.
     
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  17. aalagartassle

    aalagartassle Jedi Master star 4

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    Thankyou senator for your helpful response, I would like to know what date that was posted on so I can have context.
     
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  18. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It also strikes me that the Senate requires an update as to the wars conduct. Three terms have passed, and it is not over. I would argue that it is time that the Senate has greater conduct of the conflict.
     
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  20. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    the Vong leaders lead by the Vasalians are making us all forget through some some force technique

    ooc: it's a good as an idea as any :p
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Senate should take control of the war and end it!
     
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  22. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    the senate could approve the creation of an army of sorts ,

    and include the Jedi and Febrayasi in leading the war against the darksiders.

    The senate is for politicians, but we can lead into a war
     
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  23. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    *rises again and applauds*

    I concur.

    We must show the galactic citizens that they are safe.
    We must also show the Vong that we are capable of protecting the galaxy.

    To do that we not only need a funding plan but a plan of action. This plan needs to start today.
    Before any other lives are lost and before the darkness of the Vong can eclipse the bright future of our galaxy..

    We have some ships and medical aid, perhaps some supplies. This is not enough. Right now it is a half-moulded plan.
    We need supplies in our hands to fight this war. We need an army.

    It is truth that you cannot fight a war without soldiers, and we also need more supplies. What we have now is barely enough to fight a skirmish on the outer rim.
    I would urge a formal motion to remedy this situation, through propaganda or other encouragement to enlist or supply this cause.
    And even though we must rally together and end this conflict, fighting for this cause is not something to be glorified. It is a harsh reality that those fighting for the safety of the galaxy may not return. However, with skilled Force users among them perhaps the outlook will not be so bleak. This is an excellent point by the Senator of Anaxes.

    As for the funding, we have only half a plan. How are we to know what funding is necessary? First we need a plan of expense in order to balance the funding going towards the war. How many ships must we build? How many bacta treatments will we need? We need to estimate this.

    I urge you all, the honorable Chief of State and Speaker, as well as my fellow Senators, to work together to create a plan of action; one we so desperately need.
    Then we can better prepare for whatever may lie ahead.
     
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  24. aalagartassle

    aalagartassle Jedi Master star 4

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    The COS, Bazingad has nominated Jedi General Gelderd to lead an investigative task force to determine strengths and weaknesses, within the next week, the evidence of these forays will determine the push to action, where it is needed and to what trade routes, security and screens need to be set up so the threat is contained, effectively limiting the means of production of the enemy.
    Within the last 3 terms the senate has actively pursued this war.
    Here is the legislation that has had a direct impact on this war.

    Declaration of War upon the "Vong Empire".
    law 3.2456 Emergency funding release.
    Law 3.36 Short range fighters conscription to the fleet.

    Motion: Imperial/Alliance Treaty Modifications [rescinded to own planets since imperials/ rebels are dissolved]

    Here are some arguments for senate funding discussions.
    While I am acting CS I can be appointed to a committee, that was discussed by Bazingad. He suggested for impartiality the following senators be given the role to determine funding aalagartassle, Chewbacca89 Imperial 1138, Darth_Kiryan
    These are the funding models most likey to be discussed as well as the Senators of Naboos Martial law proposal



    Darth Aiser Funding... That is good question to be discussed as well. I would say perhaps a 2-3% flat rate income tax, allowing for exemptions for those planets that have been hit by the enemy and that are rebuilding. The reason for the low tax is the fact that this wouldnt be a Large force on the Galactic Scale. It Missions would be to enforce embargos, combat smuggling and priracy and help support NGE/Alliance/NP forces fight enemies and overall Defense of the Galaxy at large without the issues of an Imperial/Allaince task force
    The effectiveness of the senates resources in the first wave of funding will determine the next standpoint for the round of funding. I would very much like to here the senators ideas for any funding proposals, Muunilinst has offered limited private funding and is potentially able to increase this for tax concessions on some other commodites it produces for the galaxy, but that is mere speculation asked by some of the more powerful banking organisations that petition me constantly to have their voice heard. Though the monetary injection would finance the war, we would walk down a slippery path of concessions for the elite, something as a Muun I can agree with, but as a galactic senator seeing the plights of other systems I would rather the answer not come by the form of concessions for the rich, rather the senate actively pursue a broad and minute derivitive tax on luxury goods. say .005 of a % for a luxury item. Example a wampa fur coat costs 800 credits. 800 X .005 = 4 credits. Effectively it becomes a tax for the rich and middle class to burden. But that is for another day to debate it's time to vote on the propsals and after that I guess we campaign for senate positions.
     
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  25. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    well, ok then.
     
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