Amph The The Batman Thread (+ The The Penguin Series)

The next animated movie(s) is an adaptation of "Knightfall", Knightquest" and "KnightsEnd". So it all depends on if someone can pitch a film to Gunn and Serafan that's worth doing.

 

Which I am also looking forward too. I thiink the odds are, Michael Keaton is more likely to come back as Batman than Christian bale is.

I would love to see a Michael Keaton Batman vs beetle juice animated or deepfake AI live action movie but that’s a 1 in a million chance on both counts

Funny thing is, the penguin from Batman returns as a creature does resemble and sounds like beetle juice

 

I honestly get the feeling the DC animated films, after wiping the continuity clear with Crisis, are busying themselves with multi-part adaptations of Watchmen and Knightfall so then they can figure out eventually how to keep it in sync with the Gunn/Safran new DCU continuity

 

Wow, what a show. The wife and I just finished it last night.

Spoiler

Most of it was predictable, but enjoyable. During the final scene between Penguin and Vic, I started to get nervous then dismissed it. Then they broke my heart.

Are we getting a season 2 or will the show's content flow into The Batman 2 film?

 

Seemingly just a miniseries

 

John Campea just hinted on his podcast that the Reeves universe will be integrated into the bigger DCU after all, and that an announcement will be made in early 2025.

 

Horsehockey!

 

If there’s one thing I believe, it’s some guy on a podcast.

 

Just finished Penguin. Damn that ending didn't hold back at all. Great show. The character work was amazing and thoughtful. Cannot wait for Batman 2.

I also like how the G in the Penguin logo kind looks like the profile of the Penguin lol.

 

It's honestly so good that it's a shame Lauren Lefranc didn't help Reeves co write part 2 of the Batman. This show does characterization and dialogue far better than Reeves' Batman film, imo.

He seems to be struggling with finishing the script for part 2 and im beginning to question whether his entire creative endeavor for the character wasnt mostly spent on part 1. The entirety of his idea for the character seemingly stems from his obsession with Nirvana....and I'm obsessed with Nirvana so I get it!....but he basically sat at his laptop one day and thought "what if I cast the dude from Twighlight and drew on the nose parallels to Kurt Cobain's manic depression that drove his obsession with his artform all by way of Batman, and he's fighting crime as if he's suicidal....and we will play songs from Nevermind in the Batcave!"

I mean I was waiting for Kim Gordon to show up as Poison Ivy.

Reeves thought he was making Se7en but it kinda became a facsimile of far more intelligently written crime dramas, but Reeves seemingly wasn't in on the fact that his screenwriting actually brought down the whole endeavor. Batman isn't just year 2 new in this film, he's a borderline moron. I have no idea why he was being allowed in crime scenes other than the fact that the GCPD were also complete idiots themselves. This Batman doesnt even think to question and investigate the SOLE angle of all those iceberg lounge photographs, which would have led him directly to Riddler's apartment.....the most obvious clue that even a basic beat cop doesnt miss. And then he also needs a dude with a uncle in the carpet laying business to progress the story into act 3. That being said, dude was great at solving hallmark card riddles.

It's a film that wants you to believe Batman is so ahead of the curve but he reads more like a reddit detective who thinks he's smart but never actually got accepted into the Academy in the first place.

Honestly, it was disappointing considering the entire angle is how we are finally getting a detective Batman film and Reeves' abilities as a screenwriter let down that aspect of the film.

I get he has a cowriter for part 2 but I'm not certain Mattson Tomlin is going to elevate the character enough to make up for such shortcomings. Penguin was just a far smarter and well written piece of that universe, and Reeves didn't write those scripts and he wasn't the showrunner. He kinda just came up with the whole "Penguin becomes the Kingpin of Gotham" angle.

I personally would prefer Matt Reeves directs the sequels but doesnt write them, as the direction of the film was absolutely fantastic.

Don't get me started on Batman driving head on into traffic endangering so many lives and blowing up a glass ceiling over a stadium of people. Just too much dumb for me.

 

First one is a 7.5 outta 10 on a good day. Reeves struggling to finish the script for part 2 isn't surprising imo. His entire creative idea was Batman as Kurt Cobain whose past trauma makes him suicidal via backdrop of Finchers Se7en but without the intelligent detective screenwriting that film had. It was all aesthetics. Batman drives head on into traffic getting people killed because it was a cool scene. Explodes glass ceiling over a stadium of people because it's a cool scene. But dude was a really bad detective for three hours. The only hope is that his co writer can elevate his screenwriting for part 2. But this news cements he's struggling with how to develop the character. He didn't have to write a Bruce Wayne for the last film. He should have, but he chose not to.

 

I think there's a chance this means Penguin Season 2 that's rumored is now 2026 before a second film. If it happens, which it doesn't really need to.

 

It's my favorite Batman live-action universe at this point. And I like Colin Farrell's Penguin more than Heath Ledger's Joker. (which is still excellent).

 

Gunn confirms delayed due to no finished script.

 

There’s no way we’re getting more than two of these.

 

Yeah I think Reeves’s plans for a trilogy went out the window. He’s probably being instructed to tie up all loose ends with this second movie. Assuming they’re still keeping this universe separate from the main dcu, that is.

 

I think they’re definitely going to. It just doesn’t fit. You need a Batman who can reasonably stand next to gods and aliens for the DCU, a proper “superhero” Batman, and Pattinson's Batman is firmly grounded in the detective-vigilante version of the character (which is great).

But yeah, Pattinson was 33 when he was cast and will be 41 when this is released, assuming no further delays. And Gunn isn’t going to delay The Brave and the Bold forever.

 

A slow burn for a good and grounded iteration of Batman/Gotham at its essence is worth it.

General audiences are used to variants/multiverse stuff now too, not just comics and science-fiction fans.

 

He's not wrong. In almost three years I have only watched it once. It's not that good of a Batman film.

But Zaslav doesn't get the Multiverse and doesn't care.

 

Could've swore I saw The Batman on Disney+ a while ago...I bookmarked it to watch it later, but it looks like it's been removed...