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Amph The Transformers. More than meets the eye!

Discussion in 'Community' started by HL&S , Jan 7, 2006.

  1. RK_Striker_JK_5

    RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost star 7

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    Still damned lucky of them, TIE. :p Man, a sane Galvatron against Rodimus... not good for the Autobots.
     
  2. SilSolo

    SilSolo Jedi Knight star 5

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    I would love a completely sane Galvy. GO PWN THESE AUTOBOTS!!!! :D
     
  3. Koohii

    Koohii Jedi Master star 5

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    Revenge of the Fallen
    Wow. Based on reviews and the fact that I hated the first one, I rented this one with low expectations, and this movie managed to fall below those. More pointless potty humor, and a complete lack of understanding of the topic. Pointless sex jokes abound. In fact, the movie seems to be nothing more than a series of sex jokes and neurotic idiocy "comedy" characters with some robots interrupting. Within the first 5 minutes there's a scene with two canines procreating, and that is probablly the high point of the movie. So if watching dogs having at it is your idea of a good time then you might enjoy this movie. If I ever meet Michael Bay, it will be for the last, most painful 5 minutes of his life. And yes, that applies to the writers of the script as well.
     
  4. RK_Striker_JK_5

    RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost star 7

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    I missed the dogs. Now I'm glad I did.

    And i still liked ROTF. I like ROTF. I will like ROTF.
     
  5. Koohii

    Koohii Jedi Master star 5

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    You know, if it had JUST been the dogs at the beginning, that would have been incrediblly obnoxious, but not so bad. With Wheelie on the chick's leg, the terminatrix chick and the diesel tongue, Devastator's truck "presenting" to be reamed from behind, the wrecking balls, and... and... and... those are just off the top of my head.
    Top that off with the anonymous decepticons (no dialog for most of them), anonymous soldiers (again, no dialog to make them interesting or even remotely necessary), the obnoxious as hell parents, the S7 agent who wasn't good the first time round and was even worst this time, the whiney roommate and his hacker buddies who served no purpose whatsoever, and... I'm running out of character defects as my memmory mercifully purges the movie.
    And let's not forget the pointless fart jokes.

    And "The Fallen"... How about, I don't know, an actual story? Name? How was he defeated by primitive, insignificant proto-humans? Really, what kind of threat could stone-age humans have presented to a giant killing machine?

    Jet Fire and the Model T proto-transformers... what were they disguised as before the industrial age? Charriots & Carriages?

    Even as a mindless action flick, this POS failed to satisfy. Even if the characterization is shallow, most mindless action flicks provide something so that the audience has a reason to care. I rate this just slightly above the GIJoe abomination, as the effects ere quality, if poorly executed.
     
  6. -Phoenix-

    -Phoenix- Jedi Master star 5

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    Although the movie disappointed me, I would still say the forest fight is still the best scene in either Transformers movie.
     
  7. RK_Striker_JK_5

    RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost star 7

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    Okay...

    First off, the primitive humans did not beat the Fallen. It was the other Primes? People complained about the humans getting too much screentime. Now here you complain about them getting too little. Yeah...

    Maybe they were disguised as chariots and other stuff. Maybe they didn't disguise themselves.

    His lost the rights to his name. He gained the title of the fallen through his cations. We didn't need to know his name. 'Fallen' was enough. Also... Jetfire kinda gave his backstory?

    Yeah, ROTF had problems. Citizen Kane had problems. Your problems... well, some of them are valid. Others... not so much.
     
  8. Koohii

    Koohii Jedi Master star 5

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    If you're going to have humans, give them enough story to make sense. Tell the whole story. Don't leave tons of loose threads that aren't ever going to be addressed. As it was, the opening scene was pretty pointless and utterly unnecessary. Given the 2+ hour run time, that could have been clipped and greatly improved the pacing.
    Jetfire's voice effect was so garbled that it was difficult to work out what he was saying. Add in the senility factor they gave the character, and it was almost time for subtitles.
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  10. Rox

    Rox Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Can't say that I'm not surprised. They were the worst part of the whole movie in my opinion.
     
  11. Raven

    Raven Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Twins aren't back? Thank goodness. I don't find them particularly racist, I just hate the characters on their own merits.
     
  12. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    Agreed. They were heavy into the slapstick comedy thing, which I've never liked.

    I do hope we get more Arcee this time around.
     
  13. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    According to Michael Bay Arcee is dead.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1608508/20090403/story.jhtml
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    She didn't die though- the blue Arcee did.
     
  15. RK_Striker_JK_5

    RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost star 7

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    Arcee in the movie was a waste, I'll admit. Although the 'toys' of her are just... [face_frustrated]
     
  16. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    According to Bay the other two died offscreen.
     
  17. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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  18. -polymath-

    -polymath- SFF:F/TV Trivia Host star 4 VIP - Game Host

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    I agree that the movie might be better off without her but c'mon, this is a Michael Bay movie not frakkin' Shakespeare. Her absence will be jarring to the trilogy and will likely be explained like Elisabeth Shue's absence from Karate Kid II...dating some quarterback from UCLA.
     
  19. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    Oh, I hope her absence isn't explained away that lamely. They could always replace her character with another actor like they did in Dark Knight or Iron Man 2. Or, they could say she's dead like they did with papa Jones and Marcus in Crystal Skull. Personally, I'd go for the death thing :p
     
  20. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-transformers-fans-to-receive-a-shock.html

    SHOCKWAVE COMETH

    If he is not voiced by Corey Burton I'm through though.
     
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm glad he's being elevated to Big Bad, though I know they'll screw him up somehow- like giving him emotion or two eyes or something ;)
     
  22. RK_Striker_JK_5

    RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost star 7

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    We sure this isn't one of his patented misinformations?
     
  23. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Seems it's legit

    USA Today recently visited the set of the third "Transformers" and garnered several new tidbits on the film:

    -Despite Michael Bay not being a fan of 3D, the film will be released in 3D though it's unsure as yet if it will be shot that way or converted in post-production.

    -Bay partly blames the rush to churn out the first sequel so soon after the writer's strike to blame for 'Revenge of the Fallen' being so ****.

    -Shockwave has been confirmed as the villain, the character described as "the robot cyclops-turned-laser-cannon, who became dictator of their home world of Cybertron after the other Autobots and Decepticons journeyed to Earth."

    -Another story element was the Cold War space race between the U.S.S.R. and the USA with a hidden Transformers role in it that remains one of the planet's most dangerous secrets.

    -Bay says this third one "really builds to a final crescendo. It's not three multiple endings" and they've removed much of the "dorky comedy". This includes the racist robot twins who are "basically gone" from this, but John Turturro will still provide some comic relief.

    -Also don't expect any resurrections as this is a 'trilogy capper' - "As a trilogy, it really ends. It could be rebooted again, but I think it has a really killer ending."


    Could be? Give me a couple hundred million and WILL be :D
     
  24. Koohii

    Koohii Jedi Master star 5

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    Couple million? :confused: Russian hitmen only charge 1st class ticket and $100K per, so if you take out Bay and Spielberg and... Oh, you mean in order to make a good movie. Right? [face_tired]
     
  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    To make a proper reboot, yes :p

    Then again, I'd personally film a whole trilogy at once so it'll cost more upfront, but Habsro would love me and geeks would worship me [:D]