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Discussion in 'Community' started by Point Given , Nov 11, 2020.

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Runjedirun Force Ghost

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So I just got back from visiting my father in law at the hospital. It's quite sad he is dying of lung failure, he smoked about 50 years before having a stroke 20 years ago when he finally had a jump start on quitting and quit. He told me he hadn't had a cigarette in 20 years and I told him I knew and he told me he wished he quit sooner, all I could do was assure him that we all wished we did things differently.

But here's my two main take aways. Here I am with my kids one male with long pink hair and one with Autism and one of the family members on his side walks in the room with her Pink Trump shirt. And I highly doubt she thought she was offending any of us. Like I don't think she got that would be offensive. I don't think it's right to bring it up in the hospital, but I did bring it up with my mom later and here's the 2nd take away from my mom. She tells me "you take him too seriously." You see everyone nothing to worry about we shouldn't take all of this so seriously (heavy sarcasm.) I told my mom not to take her bills seriously to just stop paying them and see what happens. Because I was trying to figure out how to say it is serious. He is the president. His actions have real consequences. The problem is so many people in this country really don't think there are any consequences. Maybe they wake up in three weeks when store shelves start getting empty???

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Runjedirun, Apr 27, 2025

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Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One

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Runjedirun said: ↑

So I just got back from visiting my father in law at the hospital. It's quite sad he is dying of lung failure, he smoked about 50 years before having a stroke 20 years ago when he finally had a jump start on quitting and quit. He told me he hadn't had a cigarette in 20 years and I told him I knew and he told me he wished he quit sooner, all I could do was assure him that we all wished we did things differently.

But here's my two main take aways. Here I am with my kids one male with long pink hair and one with Autism and one of the family members on his side walks in the room with her Pink Trump shirt. And I highly doubt she thought she was offending any of us. Like I don't think she got that would be offensive. I don't think it's right to bring it up in the hospital, but I did bring it up with my mom later and here's the 2nd take away from my mom. She tells me "you take him too seriously." You see everyone nothing to worry about we shouldn't take all of this so seriously (heavy sarcasm.) I told my mom not to take her bills seriously to just stop paying them and see what happens. Because I was trying to figure out how to say it is serious. He is the president. His actions have real consequences. The problem is so many people in this country really don't think there are any consequences. Maybe they wake up in three weeks when store shelves start getting empty???
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Well its very obvious a lot of people voted for him because they find him funny, because its all a joke and when things get serious everything will just take care of itself, as if by magic, because they just dont realize there are people in important positions who actually act like responsible adults, with all their flaws, they get things done and keep the world from falling appart. Trump has no idea what he's doing, he's just there for the attention, and people are just along for the ride because theyre so naive about so much.

That aside, Im sorry for your father in law. Not exactly the same, but I saw my dad wither away in a hospital from cirrhosis of the liver, and it was horrible.

Yoda's_Roomate, Apr 27, 2025

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Ghost Chosen One

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Ghost said: ↑

Please read this. This is a big, big deal that is (and probably will continue) to fly under the radar. But this is a really big deal:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...ulatory-budgeting-to-unleash-american-energy/

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose. In our country, laws are supposed to provide the certainty and order necessary to foster liberty and innovation. Instead, our vast regulatory structure often serves to constrict ordered liberty, not promote it. The United States Code itself is more than 60,000 pages. But unelected agency officials write most of the complex, legally binding rules on top of that, often stretching these statutory provisions beyond what the Congress enacted.

In particular, the previous administration added more pages to the Federal Register than any other in history, with the result that the Code of Federal Regulations now approaches a staggering 200,000 pages. These regulations linger in such volume that serious reexamination seldom occurs.
This regime of governance-by-regulator has imposed particularly severe costs on energy production, where innovation is critical. The net result is an energy landscape perpetually trapped in the 1970s. By rescinding outdated regulations that serve as a drag on progress, we can stimulate innovation and deliver prosperity to everyday Americans.

This order directs certain agencies to incorporate a sunset provision into their regulations governing energy production to the extent permitted by law, thus compelling those agencies to reexamine their regulations periodically to ensure that those rules serve the public good.

Sec. 2. Definitions. For the purposes of this order:
(a) “Conditional Sunset Date” means the date a regulation will cease to be effective and be removed from the Code of Federal Regulations, if the agency does not extend the Sunset Date pursuant to section 4(d) of this order.
(b) “Covered Agency” means one of the agencies listed in section 3(a) of this order.
(c) “Covered Regulation” means a regulation issued in whole or in part pursuant to a statutory authority listed in sections 3(b)-(j) of this order.
(d) “DOGE Team Lead” means the leader of the DOGE Team at each agency as described in Executive Order 14158.
(e) “Regulation” means each part, subpart, or individual provision of the Code of Federal Regulations promulgated under an agency rule as defined in 5 U.S.C. 551(4).

Sec. 3. Covered Agencies and Regulations. (a) This order applies to the following agencies and their subcomponents: the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA); the Department of Energy (DoE); the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC); and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). It further applies to the following agency subcomponents: the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE), the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM), the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement (BSEE), and the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), all within the Department of the Interior; and the United States Army Corps of Engineers (ACE), within the United States Army.
(b) For the DoE, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
(i) the Atomic Energy Act of 1954;
(ii) the National Appliance Energy Conservation Act of 1987;
(iii) the Energy Policy Act of 1992;
(iv) the Energy Policy Act of 2005; and
(v) the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.
(c) For FERC, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
(i) the Federal Power Act of 1935;
(ii) the Natural Gas Act of 1938; and
(iii) the Powerplant and Industrial Fuel Use Act of 1978.
(d) For the NRC, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
(i) the Atomic Energy Act of 1954;
(ii) the Energy Reorganization Act of 1974; and
(iii) the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982.
(e) For the OSMRE, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977 and any amendments thereto.
(f) For the BLM, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
(i) the Mining Act of 1872;
(ii) the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976; and
(iii) the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
(g) For the BOEM, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
(i) the Outer Continental Shelf Act of 1953; and
(ii) the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
(h) For the BSEE, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the Outer Continental Shelf Act of 1953 and any amendments thereto.
(i) For the FWS, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
(i) the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act;
(ii) the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918;
(iii) the Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act of 1934;
(iv) the Anadromous Fish Conservation Act of 1965;
(v) the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972;
(vi) the Endangered Species Act of 1973;
(vii) the Magnuson–Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act of 1976; and
(viii) the Coastal Barrier Resources Act of 1982.
(j) For the EPA and ACE, within 30 days of the date of this order, the Administrator of the EPA and Secretary of the Army shall provide to the President, through the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB Director), a list of statutes vesting EPA and ACE with regulatory authority that shall be subject to this order.

Sec. 4. Zero-Based Regulating. (a) To the extent consistent with applicable law, each of the Covered Agencies shall issue a sunset rule, effective not later than September 30, 2025, that inserts a Conditional Sunset Date into each of their Covered Regulations.
(b) The sunset rule shall provide that each Covered Regulation in effect on the date of this order shall have a Conditional Sunset Date of 1 year after the effective date of the sunset rule, subject to the process set forth in subsection (d) of this section. Unless the extension condition specified in subsection (d) of this section is satisfied, agencies will treat Covered Regulations as ceasing to be effective on that date for all purposes. An agency shall not take any action to enforce such an ineffective regulation and, to the maximum extent permitted by law, shall remove it from the Code of Federal Regulations.
(c) In any new Covered Regulation, to the maximum extent consistent with law, the relevant Covered Agency shall include a Conditional Sunset Date that is not more than 5 years in the future. Amendments to any Covered Regulation shall provide that they do not reset that regulation’s Conditional Sunset Date and shall be subject to the same Conditional Sunset Date as the amended regulation. The OMB Director may exempt a new regulation or amendment from the requirements of this paragraph if he determines that the new regulation or amendment has a net deregulatory effect.
(d) The sunset provision added to existing and new Covered Regulations shall provide that the agency will offer the public an opportunity to comment on the costs and benefits of each regulation, such as through a request for information, prior to a rule’s expiration, and following such opportunity the Conditional Sunset Date for that Covered Regulation may be extended if the agency finds an extension is warranted. A request for information shall not automatically extend the Conditional Sunset Date. A Covered Agency may extend the Conditional Sunset Date for a particular Covered Regulation as many times as is appropriate, but never to a date more than 5 years in the future.

Sec. 5. Implementation. (a) Neither a determination to extend the Conditional Sunset Date of a particular regulation, nor a regulation that expires as a result this order, shall count towards the ten-for-one regulatory requirement in Executive Order 14192 of January 31, 2025 (Unleashing Prosperity Through Deregulation).
(b) Agency heads shall coordinate with their DOGE Team Leads and the Office of Management and Budget to implement this order.
(c) This order shall not apply to regulatory permitting regimes authorized by statute.

Sec. 6. Severability. If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any agency, person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other agencies, persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.

Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the OMB Director relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
April 9, 2025.

So... every single regulation affecting energy and the environment will be gone by October 1st. Unless saved/updated, but those regulations will then still have a mandated "sunset" date.

Every. Single. Regulation:
... relating to the Department of Energy, the EPA, NOAA, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Ocean Management, US Fish & Wildlife Services, the Nuclear Regulatory Committee, the Army Corps of Engineers, a good chunk of the Department of Interior... the Clean Water Act, the Clean Air Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Nuclear Waste Act, the Mining Act of 1872, the Federal Power Act of 1935, and more.

These laws and agencies will still exist (for now?)... but remember:
-Congress wrote/created them.
-Congress is not an assembly of environmental scientists and engineers.
-Congress knows they're not the experts: that's why the legislation is broad and vague, it invests in these departments/agencies/committees/boards/commissions the power to interpret the law and create regulations in order to carry out the intentions of the law. That's how government works.

Does the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) need some serious maintenance, updating, clean-up, consolidation, and better organization? Yes.

Should every single regulation on the environment and energy be gotten rid of, unless picked out by the Trump administration and revised by them? Hell No.

I doubt a team of a hundred humans could even read every single one between now and October, even if it was most of their full-time jobs.

Don't underestimate the impacts this could have.

This is just the part of the CFR written by the EPA: Title 40.
https://www.epa.gov/laws-regulations/regulations#cfr
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-40

It has 1700 sections in use (of just title 40). Not regulations, sections that organize and divide the EPA's regulations.

Part 260 (of about 1700), governs Hazardous Waste Management Systems
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-40/chapter-I/subchapter-I/part-260

^That Part 260, if you go to the link, is itself VERY long.

It's highly technical, and is interconnected with other regulations.

An example of one small part of Part 260:

The following methods as published in the test methods compendium known as “Test Methods for Evaluating Solid Waste, Physical/Chemical Methods,” EPA Publication SW-846, Third Edition.

(i) Method 0010, Modified Method 5 Sampling Train, Revision 1, dated August 2018, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(ii) Method 0011, Sampling for Selected Aldehyde and Ketone Emissions from Stationary Sources, Revision 1, dated August 2018, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261 and appendix IX to part 266

(iii) Method 0020, Source Assessment Sampling System (SASS), Revision 1, dated August 2018, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(iv) Method 0023A, Sampling Method for Polychlorinated Dibenzo-p-Dioxins and Polychlorinated Dibenzofuran Emissions from Stationary Sources, Revision 2, dated August 2018, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261, § 266.104(e), and appendix IX to part 266.

(v) Method 0030, Volatile Organic Sampling Train, dated September 1986 and in the Basic Manual, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(vi) Method 0031, Sampling Method for Volatile Organic Compounds (SMVOC), dated December 1996 and in Update III, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(vii) Method 0040, Sampling of Principal Organic Hazardous Constituents from Combustion Sources Using Tedlar® Bags, dated December 1996 and in Update III, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(viii) Method 0050, Isokinetic HCl/Cl2 Emission Sampling Train, dated December 1996 and in Update III, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261, § 266.107, and appendix IX to part 266.

(ix) Method 0051, Midget Impinger HCl/Cl2 Emission Sampling Train, Revision 1, dated August 2018, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261, § 266.107, and appendix IX to part 266.

(x) Method 0060, Determination of Metals in Stack Emissions, dated December 1996 and in Update III, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261, § 266.106, and appendix IX to part 266.

(xi) Method 0061, Determination of Hexavalent Chromium Emissions from Stationary Sources, dated December 1996 and in Update III, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261 § 266.106, and appendix IX to part 266.

(xii) Method 1010B, Test Methods for Flash Point by Pensky-Martens Closed-Cup Tester, dated December 2018, IBR approved for § 261.21 and appendix IX to part 261.

(xiii) Method 1020C, Standard Test Methods for Flash Point by Setaflash (Small Scale) Closed-Cup Apparatus, dated December 2018, IBR approved for § 261.21 and appendix IX to part 261.

(xiv) Method 1110A, Corrosivity Toward Steel, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for § 261.22 and appendix IX to part 261.

(xv) Method 1310B, Extraction Procedure (EP) Toxicity Test Method and Structural Integrity Test, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xvi) Method 1311, Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure, dated July 1992 and in Update I, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261, and §§ 261.24, 268.7, 268.40.

(xvii) Method 1312, Synthetic Precipitation Leaching Procedure, dated September 1994 and in Update III, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xviii) Method 1320, Multiple Extraction Procedure, dated September 1986 and in the Basic Manual, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xix) Method 1330A, Extraction Procedure for Oily Wastes, dated July 1992 and in Update I, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xx) Method 9010C, Total and Amenable Cyanide: Distillation, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261 and §§ 268.40, 268.44, 268.48.

(xxi) Method 9012B, Total and Amenable Cyanide (Automated Colorimetric, with Off-Line Distillation), dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261 and §§ 268.40, 268.44, 268.48.

(xxii) Method 9040C, pH Electrometric Measurement, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261 and § 261.22.

(xxiii) Method 9045D, Soil and Waste pH, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xxiv) Method 9060A, Total Organic Carbon, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261, and §§ 264.1034, 264.1063, 265.1034, 265.1063.

(xxv) Method 9070A, n-Hexane Extractable material (HEM) for Aqueous Samples, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xxvi) Method 9071B, n-Hexane Extractable Material (HEM) for Sludge, Sediment, and Solid Samples, dated April 1998 and in Update IIIA, IBR approved for appendix IX to part 261.

(xxvii) Method 9095B, Paint Filter Liquids Test, dated November 2004 and in Update IIIB, IBR approved, appendix IX to part 261, and §§ 264.190, 264.314, 265.190, 265.314, 265.1081, 267.190(a), 268.32.

(d) National Fire Protection Association (NFPA). 1 Batterymarch Park, P.O. Box 9101, Quincy, MA 02269-9101, (800) 344-3555, www.nfpa.org/.

(1) NFPA 30, “Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code,” 1977 Edition, IBR approved for §§ 262.16(b), 264.198(b), 265.198(b), and 267.202(b).

(2) NFPA 30, “Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code,” 1981 Edition, IBR approved for §§ 262.16(b), 264.198(b), 265.198(b), and 267.202(b).

(e) Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). Economic Cooperation and Development, Environment Directorate, 2 rue André Pascal, F-75775 Paris Cedex 16, France, owww.oecd-ilibrary.org/.

(1) Guidance Manual for the Control of Transboundary Movements of Recoverable Wastes, copyright 2009, Annex B: OECD Consolidated List of Wastes Subject to the Green Control Procedure and Annex C: OECD Consolidated List of Wastes Subject to the Amber Control Procedure, IBR approved for §§ 262.82(a), 262.83(b), (d), and (g), and 262.84(b) and (d).

(2) [Reserved]

As just that tiny part of Title 40, governed by the EPA, shows... it governs what to do about corroded steel, flammable liquids, n-Hexane Extractable material, the pH levels of soil and waste, procedures for oily waste, cyanide, toxicity tests, Isokinetic HCl/Cl2 emissions, Hexavalent Chromium Emissions, Polychlorinated Dibenzo-p-Dioxins, Polychlorinated Dibenzofuran Emissions, Ketone emissions, Test Methods for Flash Point by Pensky-Martens Closed-Cup Tester,the process on how to scientifically determine the metals that can be found in the hazardous waste being analyzed and managed, and more.

Do you expect a dozen DOGE Staffers, and some of Trump's EPA staffers (that haven't quit or been laid off) even knowing what some of those things even are? And all before October 1st? And figure out which to save, and which to update/revise, with all of the ones they don't just being repealed by October?

A tiny, tiny, part of Title 40.

And this goes BEYOND Title 40, since that's only the EPA. See the other laws and agencies mentioned above.

Every single thing the government actually does is determined within those 49 active titles. And at least one of them, and a very key one since the industrial revolution started, is basically being scrapped, with some of it replaced by a very lean Trump version of it.

All gone, unless given a Trump spin and a new expiration date... in a little over 5 months.

Will businesses, state governments, local governments, and other organizations likely continue many (if not most) of the procedures they've been doing for so long, unless they have a reason not to? Most likely. But they also know the regulations they don't like, or a part they might find convenient because they don't know the full technical understanding on why something is done or why it's done in a certain way, and will now be able to ignore those repealed regulations (or go by whatever more laissez-faire regulation the Trump admin has replaced it with). Some of it might turn out ok, but this will definitely lead to many things not going "ok." Things that we might have long taken for granted. And there certainly will be bad actors, apathetic actors, and stupid actors.

Sorry this is long, but for those who might not know a lot about how all this fits together... I think I've been able to explain how this is a very big deal. I hope we live in states that already have similar regulations, or can write news laws/regulations to deal with this very soon.

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Going back to this for the moment, to go over the impact this could have, we're looking at 15%+ of all federal regulations:

Ghost, Apr 27, 2025

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DarthIshyZ Chosen One

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He didn't know about Project 2025... until he did.

Deporting US citizens was a joke... until it wasn't.

I'll leave this one here.

Yes, it's on the Trump merchandise site. So, it's official.

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DarthIshyZ, Apr 27, 2025

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The Nazis started with trying to get Jews to "self-deport". Then they tried forcibly deporting them. When mass deportations turned out to he unfeasible they started murdering them, and that's why it's called the Final Solution.

Alpha-Red , Apr 27, 2025

#55930

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Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One

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DarthIshyZ said: ↑

He didn't know about Project 2025... until he did.

Deporting US citizens was a joke... until it wasn't.

I'll leave this one here.

Yes, it's on the Trump merchandise site. So, it's official.

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If only we were so lucky that he didnt even make it to 2028....

Yoda's_Roomate, Apr 27, 2025

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Watch for quips such as "Half the people in China have diabetes" and "Piss-footed walkabout."

VadersLaMent, Apr 28, 2025

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Rylo Ken Chosen One

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It’s good to see the things I’ve been posting about for months encapsulated in a John Oliver rant. But I wish it were’nt so completely accurate.

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Rylo Ken, Apr 28, 2025

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3sm1r Force Ghost

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Rylo Ken said: ↑

He has never been able to articulate what he hopes to accomplish with tariffs
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Well, from his point of view, I'd guess he needs some source of revenue to compensate for his tax cuts to bilionaire and corporations.

3sm1r, Apr 28, 2025

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Rylo Ken Chosen One

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Ending public health at the federal level accomplishes some of that goal too. That’s why Musk was so enthusiastic about doge I’m sure.

other accomplishments, like ending the influence of research universities in the US, are just icing on the cake. Eventually they’ll figure out that this infrastructure was sustaining the billionaires too, but it will be too late. “Why is the US such a terrible place to earn money?” they’ll be asking themselves. “How did this happen?”

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Rylo Ken, Apr 28, 2025

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DarthIshyZ Chosen One

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IPhones and GPS. Just two things you use every day, thanks to Public / Private / University cooperation.

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DarthIshyZ, Apr 28, 2025

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Rylo Ken Chosen One

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Alpha-Red said: ↑

The Nazis started with trying to get Jews to "self-deport". Then they tried forcibly deporting them. When mass deportations turned out to he unfeasible they started murdering them, and that's why it's called the Final Solution.
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The Third Reich brain drain is already happening. Top foreign grad students no longer willing to risk study in the US. Non citizen university faculty looking for posts abroad. Heavy hitter scientist no longer able to fund their labs in the US. The diaspora of expertise is already underway.

Rylo Ken, Apr 28, 2025

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https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnuu2djhzp2e

Stupidest. Craziest. People. Ever. I am sure by mid-week, JD Vance will be posting, "Where is his thank you, Shedeur?".

So Bessent is now saying it's up to China to "de-escalate" the trade war, and then in the same breath said they won't negotiate in the press. Man, it must be going really really really bad behind the scenes to the point China is telling the administration that they are never going to buy our soybeans ever again. Even the farmers are in a panic:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trade-war-tariffs-full-blown-crisis-us-farm-exporters-say.html

Trump is going to bail out all farmers this time, not just soybean farmers. Glad to see the treasury coffers are filled thanks to the tariffs and tax revenue *rolls eyes*

Meanwhile, the richest politician in the union (don't care what Forbes says, Trump has just as much debt as he does assets) is continuing to get louder as the leader of the resistance:

https://archive.is/YM37v

He might truly be your 2028 Democratic presidential nominee.

Luke02, Apr 28, 2025

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Representative Gerry Connolly has announced that his cancer has returned and as such, he will be stepping back from his role on the House Oversight Committee and will not be seeking re-election.

Adam of Nuchtern, Apr 28, 2025

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Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One

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If he’s stepping back he should be stepping down

Jedi Knight Fett, Apr 28, 2025

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Darth_Duck Chosen One

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Oct 13, 2000

I'm sure there's another dying old guy waiting in the wings to replace him.

Darth_Duck, Apr 28, 2025

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Runjedirun Force Ghost

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Gerry is my representative and a good guy. I am so sorry this is happening to him. He really impressed me getting on zoom calls during COVID and taking parent questions during a very difficult time. I wish him the best and thank him for his service.

Runjedirun, Apr 28, 2025

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Jedi Knight Fett said: ↑

If he’s stepping back he should be stepping down
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Every seat matters right now with the Republicans having such a thin majority. We can't afford to just voluntarily give up a blue seat that might not be filled for months to come.

jcgoble3, Apr 28, 2025

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Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One

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jcgoble3 said: ↑

Jedi Knight Fett said: ↑

If he’s stepping back he should be stepping down
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Every seat matters right now with the Republicans having such a thin majority. We can't afford to just voluntarily give up a blue seat that might not be filled for months to come.
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Oh I was saying as head of oversight not from congress or maybe that’s what he means when taking a step back

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Jedi Knight Fett, Apr 28, 2025

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anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager Staff Member Manager

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Darth_Duck said: ↑

I'm sure there's another dying old guy waiting in the wings to replace him.
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…who Pelosi will make sure has the job before AOC can get it.

anakinfansince1983 , Apr 28, 2025

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Trump's poll numbers are dropping, so he thinks polling companies should be investigated. It's almost comical.

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Count Yubnub, Apr 28, 2025

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Trump officials looking into stripping Wikipedia of its 501(c)(3) tax status
https://www.thefp.com/p/trump-prosecutor-threatens-wikipedia

Ghost, Apr 28, 2025

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anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager Staff Member Manager

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Apparently it’s illegal to pray inside the Capitol now

…at least if you’re a progressive pastor.

Rev. Barber is the best North Carolinian.

anakinfansince1983 , Apr 28, 2025

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Did they arrest the pastors? Looked like they left the ministers alone and shooed the press out. I mean, so much for freedom of the press (again), but the title oversold it a bit, IMO.

DarthIshyZ, Apr 28, 2025

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anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager Staff Member Manager

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Rev. Barber was arrested.

Here is another story

anakinfansince1983 , Apr 28, 2025

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