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Amph "There's More Than One King" - The MonsterVerse [Godzilla x Kong: Supernova]

Discussion in 'Community' started by Eeth-my-Koth, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    I’ve been stardimg at Godzilla vs Kong toys in my local department store for six months. Delays, delays. ;)
     
  2. ukijedi

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    Also supposedly the Snyder Cut of Justice League is coming out on March 25th on HBO Max, so I guess they want to space them out a bit?
     
  3. bstnsx704

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    If I had to guess, this will probably recreate the 1930s setting of the traditional King Kong story, like the original film and Peter Jackson's remake. Kong: Skull Island already established that a version of the S.S. Venture crashed on Skull Island in the MonsterVerse, so we could very well be seeing those characters as the "shipwrecked crew" on the island in this series.
     
  4. Gamiel

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    Where did we see that? Just wondering
     
  5. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    Hmm, so I was actually partially mistaken. Dug into it a bit more and the ship shown crashed on the island is actually the "Wanderer."

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    It was, however, dubbed the "Venture" in the concept art for the film.

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    What's interesting about this is that the Wanderer is actually the name of the ship (instead of the Venture) in the novelization, which released on shelves in 1932 (a whole year before the film's actual 1933 release). That means that the Venture must have originally been called the Wanderer in an early version of the original 1933 film's script, and that's what Kong: Skull Island was tipping its hat to.

    Either way, Marlowe makes mention of the Wanderer crashing on the island roughly a decade before he did, which puts it right there in roughly 1933.
     
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  6. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Does anyone know where Gojira and Kong will do battle? Will it be Skull Island? A US City? Several locations?
     
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  7. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Based on the trailer: Several locations
     
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  8. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Do you think Gojira will go Meltdown/ Nuclear on Kong?

     
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  9. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    No. He will need to be nuked to be able to do that, and I don't see that happening.
     
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  10. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Its foreboding his Nuclear/ Meltdown mode, its how he is when Destroyah arrives. We saw Destroyah’s forerunner in yhe Oxygen Destroyer in KOM.
     
  11. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    The trailer explicitly shows two locations (on/around the aircraft carrier, which is presumably en route from Skull Island, and in Hong Kong) and seems to imply a third fight happening underneath the Earth's surface, within the 'Hollow Earth.'

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    There seem to be upside down mountainous structures above Kong's head, so this definitely reads as an underground pocket of Earth to me. And it makes sense, to inevitably build up to a confrontation in the Hollow Earth, since that's been the main overarching 'conspiracy theory' running through all of these films so far, explaining how these giant creatures hide, move quickly from location to location, etc.

    Now, to jump back to the recently announced Skull Island anime project (and sticking with the Hollow Earth based speculation), if it is indeed set in the 30s, it will likely deal with a significantly younger, smaller Kong, with his size perhaps more in line with more traditional King Kong iterations. If that is the case, he will be roughly the proper size to fight actual dinosaurs again and give us some proper Kong vs T-Rex (or V-Rex or even Gorosaurus, if they want to put more of a fictional twist on the dinosaurs) action again. It would be pretty neat if this animated project revealed that the dinosaurs actually haven't all died out, but rather, have mostly migrated underground (think along the lines of Journey to the Center of the Earth) and perhaps in the 30s they would surface more often, but now that Kong, the Skull Crawlers, and the many other denizens of Skull Island have grown so much larger than them, they basically keep to themselves in their own little pocket under the surface in the modern day.
     
  12. The2ndQuest

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    It sounds like the anime project would have to be pre-WWII, otherwise Marlow would have other humans to interact with- and KSI suggested it was just him, Ikari and the natives. I like bst's theory of it being the Wanderer/Venture. Though I wonder if we'll see Kong's parents how they died/were defeated by the Skullcrawlers, setting the stage for young Kong in the film.

    Of course, I’ve always had to headcanon-squint PJ’s King Kong into things as vague, in accurate backstory but I know that was never going to work.
     
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  13. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm not anything remotely resembling a hardcore kaiju fan. I saw a fair number of the old Godzilla movies as a kid on a local program called Will C's Red Eye Cinema on Saturday nights when I was growing up back in the 70's and 80's. They never ran any of the Kong vs Godzilla movies so a lot of what Chipman is discussing here with respect to this particular corner of the franchises is news to me, Linking it just for that history and perspective ... oh and language warning.

     
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  14. bizzbizz

    bizzbizz Jedi Master star 4

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    Reckon Kong will technically win only way to get king added to his name
     
  15. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Something I hope to see, if just as a cameo, is that Monarch has a specialized team for each of the kajius, each with it's own style, like Anti-Megalosaurus Force have in Godzilla: Half Century War #3

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  16. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    I want to rewatch Godzilla vs Biolante, its been such a long time.

    Trivia: Spacegodzilla was created by Mothra talong both G-cells of Godzilla and Biolante into space. Spacegodzilla is their son and my favorite kaiju. :)
     
  17. Master_Lok

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    I’d lose my 7 year old mind if Megalon and Hedorah ever show up in one of these modern films.
     
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  18. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Megalon!

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  19. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Shin Ultraman!
     
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  20. JoshieHewls

    JoshieHewls Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm not big on those fellas, but I would love to see Gigan. I always felt he was under utilized.
     
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  21. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Gigan is one of my favorites. I lesrned cockroachs could survive a nuclear from Godzilla vs Gigan.

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    Favorites:

    1. Spacegodzilla
    2. Gigan
    3. Godzilla 90’s
    4. Mecha Godzilla III (Millennium)
    5. Mothra
     
  22. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    Hedorah is actually the monster I'd most love to see get a modern update - especially if it was something fairly grotesque, along the lines of Shin Godzilla.
     
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  23. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Would you recommend seeing Shin Godzilla? I haven’t seen it.
     
  24. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    I looked to buy Godzilla vs. Hedorah last weekend. I love that one. It's so strange. Shin Godzilla is great. It's tone is similar to the original.
     
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  25. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    Absolutely! I would call it my second favorite Godzilla film in general, after the 1954 original.

    It isn't a big, action packed monster mash, mind you (and don't get me wrong, I adore those too - just ask my Criterion Showa era collection ;)), but rather, it is a
    satirical exploration the inadequacy of modern political systems in times of genuine crisis, riffing pretty heavily on the events surrounding the handling of the very real 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami.

    On top of that, it has what I find to be the scariest iteration of Godzilla to date. Think shades of John Carpenter's The Thing, mutating as needed in order to best thrive in its environment...
     
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