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Books Thrawn: Treason by Timothy Zahn Summer 2019

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Force Smuggler, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. FS26

    FS26 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think Believability might be the wrong word; or at least to high of a goal. Sherlock Holmes, Thrawn, etc. don't function as realistic characters. Rather, it's about just being "believable" enough to get a willing audience to follow along, kind of like a magic stage act. It's not about making sense, but about being enjoyable and feeling, rather than actually being true.
     
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  2. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I can't and don't speak for "the audience" writ large and couldn't possibly. Whether we call it believability, suspension of disbelief, sleight of hand, etc. -- the only thing I'm saying is that I did not care for it one bit.

    When I say that believability is subjective, what I mean is that my opinion is my opinion and not necessarily anyone else's (and definitely not that of "the audience.")
     
  3. Tal0nkarrde2

    Tal0nkarrde2 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Just posted a review of Star Wars: Thrawn: Treason at G-POP.net's Facebook page (if anyone is interested, here's the link:
    www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2536285963131099&id=276123499147368). I liked the book, though I am sad that they are changing the canon so much. If anyone had to do it, I'm glad they decided to stay with Zahn - who knows the character better than the man who created him in the first place.
     
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  4. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    I just finished this book a few days ago and loved it. It was a good wrap up the trilogy IMO. I do have a question regarding the epilogue however. Okay obviously the Emperor would want to get his hands on Ezra to corrupt him, but that was a surprise that Ezra was even mentioned. I wonder now in a future novel we'll see where Thrawn and Ezra went (or are) or if Filoni will want that.
     
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  5. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    I recall Timothy Zahn saying that Filoni gets first crack at Ezra and Thrawn (which makes sense, they're "his" characters). Given that we're getting a prequel novel, that does sound like they're not doing anything post-Rebels on purpose, for whatever reason.
     
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  6. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    Yea, I thought someone here mentioned Zahn wanted to only do one more Thrawn story (trilogy?) too.
     
  7. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Zahn’s given the impression that he will write Thrawn stories until he dies. If anything, the Thrawn Ascendancy Trilogy seems like it’s something to do while he waits for Filoni to organise where Thrawn will be post-Rebels.
     
  8. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    Right. I preordered the next Thrawn book so am pretty psyched. I didn't preorder Treason obviously but I think I did the others & have enjoyed them all. I'm assuming this next trilogy will take 3 years so HOPEFULLY Filoni will have done whatever by then. I want to see what he's been up to post-ROTJ or if he's survived longer where that is.
     
  9. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There are rumours that the Rebels follow-up show (whatever it might be called) is already well into production and will air at the end of 2020...personally I’m not really sure if I truly believe that, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we get an announcement at Celebration or something for it coming next year or something.
     
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  10. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    I tend to take a I'll believe when I see it view.
     
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  11. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That’s probably wise in these uncertain times.
     
  12. The Legions of Lettow

    The Legions of Lettow Jedi Master star 5

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    I’d love to see Thrawn and Rax together, then Thrawn and Snoke.
     
  13. Xander Vos

    Xander Vos Jedi Master star 4

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    Just finished. Fantastic book. Really fantastic. A much, much more complete book than the previous two, and really felt like it could sit on par with the Legends Thrawn books that we've had in the past.
     
  14. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I've been waiting for the paperback, but have enjoyed what I have read of it. Sort of expected the infiltration of Chiss society hinted at in Alliances to be expanded upon way more, though.
    (Is also fairly compatible with Legends, I guess - one more Grand Admiral to add to list, possibly replaced by one of Abel G. Pena's set)
     
  15. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Heh, not sure if anyone already mentioned this, but I'm reading the paperback and I thought this particular line from Savit was pretty funny- "There was no way that the lone Chiss in the fleet could be mistaken for anyone else, and an equally zero chance that someone could or would impersonate him.", considering both happened in legends.
     
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  16. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I remember him being impersonated by Flim. When was he mistaken for somebody else?
     
  17. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Side Trip, when he disguised himself as Jodo Kast. He was wearing a helmet, but still counts. Regardless, there's no way Zahn wasn't thinking of at least Hand of Thrawn when he wrote that line.
     
  18. Commander_Andersen

    Commander_Andersen Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Does anyone know the timeframe over how long this book takes place?

    Thrawn being summoned to Coruscant by Tarkin (in Rebels episode Jedi Knight) happens on Day 6 of the rebels' Lothal campaign, and the rebels' escape from the Jedi temple happens around dawn on Day 9 (A World Between Worlds). Hera then has to leave Lothal, head for Yavin 4, collect the Ghost, Rex and Kallus, contact Joopa Base, Hondo and Ketsu, and head to Seelos to pick them up a day later than expected. Thrawn then returns to Lothal the following day.

    I've seen a suggestion that it's about a week, but having not read it myself, I'm not certain.
     
  19. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I believe Zahn himself has said it’s a week.
     
  20. Wrinty

    Wrinty Jedi Master star 3

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    I think I can come out and say it, Thrawn in the nu-canon is a morally grey character compared to decidedly very evil EU Thrawn, and he's all the better for it.
     
  21. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You’ll find some pushback to that notion.
     
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  22. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Legends Thrawn's a good example of a character becoming increasingly evil over time - Outbound Flight Thrawn is less evil than Choices of One Thrawn, and Choices of One Thrawn is less evil than TTT Thrawn.
     
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  23. Jid123Sheeve

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    Wonder if they'll try that in Canon especially if Thrawn appears in any post Jedi material
     
  24. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I doubt it, within canon novels his morality is fairly consistent with itself.
     
  25. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I can believe that the Thrawn of the Ascendancy trilogy will be less willing to turn a blind eye to slavery and other atrocities.
     
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