ST TIE Fighters in the ST

What do tie fighters sound like without the doppler effect?

 

Well I am not sure these are panels? I think my expert friend will better guide me out,,

 

Still waiting for reply

 

The EU was the first to depict them as "solar panels" - but this has continued in SW reference books right up to the present. I think even the Rebels Visual Guide says they are solar panels.

 

How does one write out the onomatopoeia describing the TIE fighter "sound," anyway? rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrowwww? lol

 

I've always loved the design of the Clawcraft, but the thing that works against it is that it's got curves. Soft, non-threatening curves. The point of any fighter of this kind is to INTIMIDATE the audience at a glance (the only amount of time an audience will allow it to do so), and sharp angles and points are psychologically more threatening, and make us feel more uncomfortable quicker (because we can be cut on those), than curved surfaces are and do. The curved Clawcraft had a good built-in reason to work, story-wise, for the EU because it was meant to be a combination of Imperial and Chiss fighter technology and aesthetic sensibilities. Yes, it could certainly be a good BASIS on which to design a more modern TIE model, something that would be a logical extension of, and more threatening-looking than, the TIE Interceptor - but it would need to be redesigned to have sharp angles.

As to what the basic, everyday Imperial fighter would be in this period, who can say? If they're going with a modernized (by which one may read made to more closely resemble Ralph McQuarrie's production paintings) X-wing, then it's a safe bet that they may choose to go the same route with the TIE. I'm going to have to consult whatever McQuarrie and Colin Cantwell designed back in the day to better be able to wrap my head around it, but based on what I remember, the differences aren't that great, save that the solar panels and struts were thinner. The final models seen in the OT were essentially fattened up to be able to be seen in bluescreen shots, but modern technology, whether with models or CGI, doesn't necessarily have the constraints of the old bluescreen technology, so they COULD do slimmer TIEs now and pull them off just fine. Again, as long as they still look threatening.

 

Will Tie's still be launched from racks or will they have built in landing gear now?

 

Will Cylons pilot them?

 

It's gonna be tough to shove three of them into that little cockpit.

 

Looking through this thread makes me realise how ridiculous most of the EU designs actually were

"you know what, the tie fighter was cool, lets make it even more badass and give it an extra wing....no no no wait how about if we made them all like daggers...duuuuuude that'd be sweet as."

The beauty in the Tie was its simplicity, even when they were upgraded to interceptors they consisted of clean lines and weren't too busy looking, none of these capture that, they just reek of trying too hard. Best one I think is the one from Dark Empire, I admit I quite liked that one (made a nice appearance in the rogue squadron game too)



Maybe something akin to the Inquisitors Tie might work, still keeps the basics of the Tie shape while just rounding it off a little.

 

Rebels shows them just sitting around outside, resting on their vertical panels at a planetside base. Which seems to clash from my previous understanding that they were intentionally rack-launched/received only to enforce the Imperial doctrine of dependence on the Empire.

I was naughty and posted about this topic a while back over in the X-Wing thread (we were discussing various starfighters and their technologies):

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Dak Oolron

Thats the thing, real world physics don't transfer to sci-fi. In atmospheric flight how could a TIE realistically land, may be these installations use tractor beams that deal with the landing manoeuver. My initial thoughts were that if these updated TIE's are heavier but still rely on the weaker wing design, then they'd need some sort of landing gear, combined with repulsor lift capabilities.

 

For that matter, how could something with no lifting surfaces achieve atmospheric flight at all? At least all of the Alliance starfighters have a vaguely aerodynamic/wing shape somewhere on them.

It's true that a land base could have a tractor beam generator just as easily as a Star Destroyer.

Seems like adding landing gear and repulsorlift capabilites would defeat the purpose of the TIE, though, since the extra weight would make it a lightly-armored, non-shielded, average-performing starfighter...

You are totally right about real world physics not determining the limits of sci-fi tech. And I'm totally fine with that, as IMO it makes it more fun to not sweat the small stuff when you're watching a movie. I do find it fun to discuss, just for [kicks] and giggles, though.

 

Star Wars tech relies on one thing

 

No YouTube at work. (All I see is a blockpage naming YouTube where the embedded video player should be.)

 

Real-life physics don't belong in Star Wars. The whole point of Star Wars is to be a fantastical space adventure.

 

Picture a 2 second clip of Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) saying "magic"...

 

The whole solar panels thing is up for debate I think... I'm pretty sure the newer stuff describes them as radiator panels for cooling, not solar panels for power.

I like the design for the Chiss Clawcraft, even though I think the name is totally wrong since Survivor's Quest shows the Chiss using totally indigenous designs... It's an Empire of the Hand design in my mind, not Chiss.

As for the TIEs in the Sequel trilogy? Sure, why not... there've been some pretty nice TIE designs over the years: TIE/ad 'Avenger', TIE Scimitar Bomber, TIE Defender...

 

TIE fighters were cool and original in the OT. But look silly now, at least the standard TIEs.

 

Being wrong really suits you.

 

That really grabbed my attention, too. I almost wondered if that is the back of it, aka the exhaust of the TIE drive. Which would mean that TIE is firing backwards, if that's the case...

A TIE fighter with an independently-moving turret seems WAY more dangerous than the fragile OT TIE fighter with fixed cannons...

 

The new TIE's should be called MagpieTIE's.

 

I'm also loving the look of those First Order troop transports (with the four slanted rectangular boosters), which you see in the hangar bay above, and also in the space shot. From the side, they almost look like mini Destroyers.



Also, that distinctive ship looks to be Kylo Ren's shuttle. A sleek, black, very pared-down version of the shuttle Tydirium, it seems.

Cool designs, all around.

 

I thought at first the transports that flank the shuttle are the Republic/Imperial Police gunships from Rebels, but now I can see wingless Sentinel-class landing craft.