ST TIE Fighters in the ST

Its a fantasy universe,none of these things exist..the number is infinite..

Also giving the TIE,s a new colour scheme seems to satisfy the "ok for nostalgia but not really copying"at lucasfilm now..

 

Even the snow speeders in ESB had repulsors. Actually, I guess every speeder in existence has repulsors, so it's probably not a big deal to put them on TIEs

 

Good point. If they bothered with putting a moving turret down there it seems like it would be worth having cutouts in the solar panel or even change the overall shape/location of the panel to allow for a greater arc of fire.

 

Is it possible there's more than one type of, "regular," Tie fighter in TFA?

One thing I've noticed in the scene in the hanger is the Ties seem to have what looks like a tank tread where the wing meets the arm that connects it to the cockpit ball. I assume this tread like design may be how they roll down the sloped wall.

You can see it on the Tie that's firing into the hanger in this still.




But I also noticed I don't see this tread on all of the Ties in the trailer. Such as this one.

 

Wow, good eye. I'm starting to think there are two types of "standard-profile" (not an Interceptor, etc) TIE fighters. The one on the bottom doesn't have the bottom turret. Maybe "tank tread"/rear viewports/bottom turret is one design (first picture) and a basically true-to-OT TIE is the other. Then again, I don't think we've gotten a good rear view at the non-turret version to confirm/deny the rear viewport between the exhaust ports... Regardless of the details on the bottom one, I like the one-way mirror look on the front viewport

 

Rebels ships are also stylized.

 

Thinking more about this, I remembered a report from Making Star Wars about what they called the, "Special Forces Tie."

Did a quick search and turned up their article from last October. They were quite accurate in their report hitting many details on the head.

The article contained a description of the red markings around the cockpit in the, "two, three, and four o’clock positions," which seems correct in the photo I posted

They also spoke about the treads I noticed by the inner wing, calling it, "giant metal tires against the wing."

They also mention the engines and the rear view port. "Each booster is like a hexagon cut in half with a hole where the thrust comes out. They don’t stick out that from the the body. In between them is a black band."

Again quite accurate.

So perhaps we are correct in that their are two different Ties that have a similar shape/profile to the classic OT Ties. One being the basic Tie Fighter, the other being a Special Forces version.

This may also explain the size discrepancies spoken about in the past few pages. Maybe the Special Forces version is indeed a two seater, where as the basic Tie is a one seater like the OT version.

 

it's rumored the tie the heroes are in is a two seated version and that we are looking at the rear gunner in that shot. maybe that's why it has the different design.

 

Wasn't this all discussed a page or two ago? Obviously two different styles of TIEs... standard & 2-man, the 2-man with the gear/wheel things on the inside of the wings, rear viewport, swiveling turret on the bottom. Some of you were even part of that conversation already.

 

Not that I see. 3 pages ago were conversations from 2014.

And there's been discussion about the rear view port as well as the turret beneath, and the possibility of a two man Tie.

But the wheel thing wasn't mentioned so far as I can see. Also I didn;t see anyone connect it to the MSW report.

 

Yes, I have been talking about the new design elements, but my recent point is postulating that there is more than one "standard-profile" TIE design, rather than saying all TIE fighters in the ST have these new elements, which might not be true.

 

It's hard to see in the trailer, but if you look close at the Tie that's firing into the hanger bay, there is also an antenna array poking up from the wing support, near the wheel/tread. You can see it as the explosions light the bay up. Can't see it in the pic I posted above, but you see it when everything is in motion.

Again, this was something mentioned by MSW in the report from last October. So my opinion is we are definitely looking at a non standard Tie, and what was called the Special Forces Tie in their report.

Also noticed during the explosions, if you look at the Ties that are on the slant in the hanger wall, you will see the same, "wheel," against the inner wing. So it looks like there's many Special Forces Ties.

 

Special Forces TIE is probably a good way to describe them

 

Maybe it was in the teaser-dissection thread or something, because the wheel thing has been mentioned multiple times (I've described it as a gear, because they look like teeth more than tire treads to me), and folks have noted that in addition to the prominent Special Forces TIE firing, there's one other SF TIE docked on the top level in the upper left of the screen, the wheel/gear visible in the light of the explosions, while the other TIEs seem to be standard.

 

I'm still not sure why you're griping about discussing Tie Fighters in the Tie Fighter thread.

 

Because people are acting like the discovery of the wheel, the turret, the rear viewport, and two styles of TIEs is something brand-new this week, that's all.

 

I took the liberty of looking at the thread you mentioned, where you claim this was discussed 3 pages ago. Unlike you, I went though all 87 pages. And guess what, on pages 60-61 (which is a bit more than 3 pages ago) there is mention of the Tie Fighter being spec ops,and the view port as well as turret.

But nothing about the wheel, the red markings, or antenna array. Nothing about other fighters with the wheel. Nothing about the connection to the MSW report.

Do you really expect people to read every single thread on this entire forum before posting things they notice about Tie Fighters in the Tie Fighter thread?

No one was looking for accolades or to make claim on being the FIRST!!! to notice. Just discussing Tie Fighters in exactly the proper thread to do so.

You may want to consider your motives. Because from here it seems you're just being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk.

 

If this picture of the toy TIE fighter is any clue it would seem that TIE's are now two-seater vehicles.

 

Only the Special Forces TIEs.

 

It seems there are plenty of standard TIEs on the movie, with no red painting and no extra equipment (probably one seat and one engine instead of two):

 

Wow, Django Fett, that toy pic is awesome!!! Really sheds some light on the subject. The details are amazing.

 

Yet the pilots of the single seat TIE fighters have red markings on their helmets as well.

 

Do we know that for sure? The pilot packed with the Black Series Special Forces TIE is called an "Elite" pilot. The one real shot we've got from the teasers is an up angle, and we don't know what the exterior of that TIE really looks like (surrounding shots may be from different sequences).

Also, the regular TIEs still have 2 engines... it's "Twin Ion Engine", after all. It's just there's a large central 'port' thing in the middle of the two glowing engines on regular TIE rears, where the horizontal gunner window is on the SF TIE.

 

Tie fighters were always my favorite SW ships!

 

Is it just me or do the TFA TIEs have the opposite color scheme of the OT TIEs?