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Timeline of ESB - Luke's Training

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by rtj4000, Apr 23, 2005.

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  1. rtj4000

    rtj4000 Jedi Master

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    I've read posts about assuming more than a few hours elapses during Luke's training.

    How much time does elapse during his training?

    What is everyone else doing during this time?

     
  2. obiwankoti

    obiwankoti Jedi Youngling star 2

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    What is everyone else doing during this time?

    -The Rebel fleet is rendezvouing
    -Han and Leia are Fleeing
    -Vader is pusruing and then torturing

    Luke is training .
    I don't have any idea how much time will pass?
     
  3. rtj4000

    rtj4000 Jedi Master

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    How long can Han and Leia flee? To me, the entire timeline of the movie seemed like about a week.
     
  4. obiwankoti

    obiwankoti Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I never thought of it till now either.
    they weren't on Cloud city very long so they must of stopped for a couple of days in the slug to fix the ship? [face_laugh]

     
  5. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    As has been discussed countless times before, the general consensus is that ESB occurs over about 2-3 months. Luke couldn't possibly survive his encounter with Vader with just a week's worth of training, and it would take more than a week for the Falcon to limp to Bespin on sublight engines.
     
  6. obiwankoti

    obiwankoti Jedi Youngling star 2

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  7. DarthMyBoy

    DarthMyBoy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think the novelization has TESB taking place over 2 years. I believe it talkes about what Han and Leia do for meals aboard the Falcon as the trudge towards Bespin at Sublight speeds

    2 years seems like adequate time for Luke to train
     
  8. obiwankoti

    obiwankoti Jedi Youngling star 2

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    2 years seems like a prison sentence on the Falcon.
    only so much holo chess a person can play! [face_laugh]
     
  9. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think in another "ESB timeline" thread, somebody said they could find no real mention of how much time elapses. But 2-3 months seems the most likely to me.
     
  10. Deeysew

    Deeysew Jedi Youngling star 4

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    train for two years? no way. It doesn't take long to learn the philosophy for being a good jedi and proper lightsaber technique. We could learn a lot in a short while if we put our minds to it. Luke knew what to do, but was not skilled enough to apply them effectively during ESB. He mastered all the skills afterwards.

    All jedi are taught the basics when they are young, like we saw in AotC. Then they are shuffled off to masters to develop those basic skills further until they are fully mastered.

    Luke probably recieved lots of basic advice from Obi in ANH, which he put a lot of work into mastering, but it wasn't enough to make him a jedi because of how little he could control them. "I feel the force," he says. His training with Yoda probably mostly consisted of learning how to feel the force and manipulate it. Then afterwards he'd learn to apply it to saber fighting.

    Yoda provided that knowledge, which probably took about a month or two, I'd suspect. Once Luke knew what to do, learned more concepts about jedi life, and how to better control his powers, his skillz grew further, but he still had not mastered them and was therefore OWNED!111! by Vader.
     
  11. Ogmios22188

    Ogmios22188 Jedi Master star 4

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    2-3 months sounds good. It definitely didn't take place over 2 years.
     
  12. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think that it was released from an official source that he was there three months...which would cover the scenes in the novel, too, so that's what I tend to go with.

    It may seem like a short time, but you have to keep in mind that Luke is a Skywalker. I get they feeling that tend to be something of an "elite" class of force users, with a strong connection to the living Force that allows them to progress faster than most.
     
  13. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    Okay, I post this explanation EVERY time this comes up, but then everyone ignores me. Here I go again.

    We know that the Falcon's hyperdrive was not functioning, right? So lets assume that the Falcon traveled to cloud city at REALLY HIGH sub-light speeds (like, 95% of the speed of light). Here's the thing: the theory of relativity states that as one approaches the speed of light, time actually slows down. This has been proven to some extent experimentally, but if you don't believe it, you'll have to research it on your own. I don't have time to explain the details and the mathematical proofs and all that. Anyway, it means that if the Falcon traveled at near light speeds in real-space (as opposed to hyperspace, which it couldn't enter), only days may have passed for those aboard the Falcon, while months pass in the outside universe. That would perfectly explain how Luke had enough time to train, Han and Leia didn't seem to be on the run that long, and how the Falcon got to Bespin without a working Hyperdrive. AND it actually makes perfect scientific sense! What better explanation can you ask for ;)
     
  14. WayOfTheLight

    WayOfTheLight Jedi Youngling

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    That's perfect neo-dragon. Never thought of it that way. Einstein would be proud.
     
  15. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    Thank you. I've posted that idea about 3 times now, and that's the first time I've gotten any response other than the online equivalent of weird looks.
     
  16. jedi-phish

    jedi-phish Jedi Youngling

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    Here's my guess at the timeline for ANH and ESB:

    Episode IV -
    Day 1 - Droids crash land on Tatooine; get picked up by jawas
    Day 2 - Droids are sold to Lars family; R2 runs away
    Day 3 - Luke finds R2, meets Ben; Larses are killed; Luke & Ben meet Han & Chewie; blast from Mos Eisly
    Day 4 - arrival at Alderaan; Luke & Han help Leia escape; Ben is killed; depart for Yavin
    Day 5 - arrival on Yavin; Death Star plans analyzed
    Day 6 - attack on Death Star
    Day 7 - award ceremony

    Episode VI -
    Day 1 - probot crashed; Luke attacked by Wampa; Han finds luke in snow
    Day 2 - Zev finds Han's shelter; Luke is treated for wounds and frostbite
    Day 3 - Luke is feeling better; Probot locates rebel base; Empire discovers rebels are on Hoth
    Day 4 - Empire launches ground assault on Hoth; rebels escape; Luke heads to Dagobah; Han flees into asteroid belt; Luke lands on Dagobah, meets Yoda
    Day 5 - Luke's training commences; Han works on Millenium falcon inside asteroid/space slug
    Day 6 - Luke's training continues; Han discovers asteriod is actually space slug; Falcon lands on Star Destroyer; Falcon departs for Bespin
    Day 7 - Falcon travles at sub-light to Bespin; Luke's training continues
    Day 9 - Falcon arrives at Bespin; Luke's training continues; 3PO is blasted.
    Day 10 - Han & Leia handed over to Vader; Luke sees vision - decides to leave Dagobah; Han is tortured
    Day 11 - Han is frozen in carbonite; Luke and Vader duel; Leia, Lando, & Luke escape from Vader's grasp
    Day 12 - group meets up with rebel fleet
    Day 13 - Lando and Chewie depart to search for Han; Luke's hand is repaired

    So, by this theory, Luke is trained for about 5 days. I've tried to be liberal in my timeline, as there is much that occurs that is not represented on screen - after all - no one ever sleeps in the OT (unlike the PT where both Padme and Anakin sleep)
     
  17. Darthgenius77

    Darthgenius77 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    In the noveliztion, it takes place over the course of three months. We don't know how long Han and Leia have been on Bespin, but my guess is at least a while, becaue Leia is very worried about C3PO, and she probably wouldn't be, if only a couple of hours passed.
     
  18. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    I really don't believe that Luke could have become (for all intents and purposes) a fully trained Jedi knight in 5 days. I figure it was 1 month minimum. And for the Falcon to arrive at Bespin in 2 days traveling at sublight speed... Well, let's just say that it would have to be REALLY near by.
     
  19. Captain-Stable

    Captain-Stable Jedi Youngling star 3

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    jedi-phish posted on 4/24/05 7:20pm
    Here's my guess at the timeline for ANH and ESB:

    Episode IV -
    Day 1 - Droids crash land on Tatooine; get picked up by jawas
    Day 2 - Droids are sold to Lars family; R2 runs away
    Day 3 - Luke finds R2, meets Ben; Larses are killed; Luke & Ben meet Han & Chewie; blast from Mos Eisly
    Day 4 - arrival at Alderaan; Luke & Han help Leia escape; Ben is killed; depart for Yavin
    Day 5 - arrival on Yavin; Death Star plans analyzed
    Day 6 - attack on Death Star
    Day 7 - award ceremony [hr][/blockquote]

    ANH takes place over 2 (3 at the maximum) days.
    Day 1: Droids crash, are picked up by Jawas, sold to Owen and R2 runs away that night.
    Day 2: Luke finds Obi-wan, meets Han, flies to Death star, escapes with leia, goes to Yavin (remember the DS is now tracking the Falcon, so the rebels have to be quick), then blows up the DS
    Possible Day 3 (or evening of Day 2): Awards.

    The main evidence I can present for this theory, is to work backwards. We know once the gang land on the DS, they didn't spend a night there, we know the trip from Tatooine to Alderaan was short (Han was planning on droppign them off, getting his money, then getting back to jabba the next day), we know Ben wouldn't want to hang around getting to Alderaan - and Luke found him early in the day, no reason for not to leave right away.
    Remember what Vader says near the end of ANH "This will be a [b]day[/b] long remembered..."
     
  20. Ogmios22188

    Ogmios22188 Jedi Master star 4

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    A day passes between when Threepio and Artoo land on Tatooine and when they are sold to Owen. Artoo is found by the Jawas at night, and they're sold the next day.
     
  21. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I'm among the group that says Luke was training for 2-3 months.
     
  22. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I just can't buy that Han was being tracked by Boba Fett for more than a few days. He would have noticed him, especially out in the middle of nowhere (unless Boba theorized that they were headed for Bespin, then broke off and jumped there, set up base, waited until they arrived, then called Vader).
     
  23. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    Well Lando said they arrived right before you did, so Boba must of figured out where he was going, contacted the Empire, and waited for the ambush.
     
  24. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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  25. AnakinSucks

    AnakinSucks Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Feels like he is there for about................2 hours.

    He fails in his training session.


    Apparently, he is still strong enough to mix it with Vader.


    Vader is soooo over rated.
     
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