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Top sci fi tv shows of all time: now discussing YOUR LIST

Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by Jabbadabbado, May 7, 2009.

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  1. soitscometothis

    soitscometothis Chosen One star 6

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    Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea: I remember an episode where a leprechaun takes control of the ship, or the captain, or something. Every other episode seemed to involve Admiral Nelson and Captain Crane (the two leads) fighting each other (because one was being controlled by leprechauns or something)... I guess it was cheaper that way. Definitely a series based on science-fact.

    The Six-Million Dollar Man: My favourite show as a kid, its titles are absolutely iconic, perhaps in the top 5 of all time.
     
  2. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    27. 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'
    A fantastic show about a high school student with a bad reputation who has a destiny to kill vampires meandering about her town of Sunnydale. Buffy Summers is played by Sarah Michelle Gellar (front) in a kick-butt role as the tough, but attractive, vampire slayer. She battled vampires from 1997-2003.

    I'm not about to challenge the greatness of Buffy, but is this sci fi? I don't like it when video rental stores lump the sci fi and the horror together, and I like it even less when lists of sci fi tv series do it.
     
  3. Zaz

    Zaz Jedi Knight star 9

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    Good point, I don't think it's scifi.

    Only saw sporadic episodes.
     
  4. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon

    Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Knight star 6

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    Buffy kind of bounced among sci-fi, horror, and fantasy. Despite its title, I'd call it fantasy more than horror or sci-fi.

    But if nothing else, the Frankenbro in Season 2 and the Initiative in Season 4 give Buffy some sci-fi, though not science fiction (for those who make the distinction), cred.
     
  5. SoloKnight

    SoloKnight Jedi Master star 4

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    Funny you should voice that complaint as Entertainment Weekly's Popwatch blog just had an article about how Buffy didn't deserve to be #2 on "25 Women who Shook Sci-Fi" for that very reason.

    Personally while I agree that Buffy is mainly supernatural, there were some elements of sci-fi in it: Adam, The Initiative's futuristic weapons, the Buffybot etc.
     
  6. Darth58

    Darth58 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I watched the 1st season of Buffy on DVD last year for the first time but I just couldn't get into it (although a friend reckons it really kicks off from the 2nd season onwards). Just wasn't my thing I guess.
     
  7. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    That was my thought too. I've never actually seen Buffy, but my understand is that Buffy is more horror-fantasy than sci fi.
     
  8. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    26. 'Stargate Atlantis'
    "Stargate Atlantis" is a spinoff of Sci-Fi Channel's original "Stargate SG-1" series. When a Stargate portal is found in the ancients' city of Atlantis (beneath Antarctica) a team is formed to explore it. As they use the Stargate to travel to the Pegasus Galaxy, they encounter an evil enemy called The Wraith, who threatens human existence.

    Welcome to the 21st century! Who would have thought that gimmicky "Stargate" would spawn such a franchise, which reminds me of a scene from that movie. Dr. Daniel Jackson corrects a hieroglyph translation from "door to heavens" to "Stargate". As someone who has translated professionally, that makes me grit my teeth a bit. Is "stargate" really a better translation? How can you tell? "door to heaven" seems like a perfectly acceptable translation for "stargate" since "paraphrasing" is just a translation of "translating something into its own language" anyway. But I digress.
     
  9. Zaz

    Zaz Jedi Knight star 9

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    I've heard that this is good, but I haven't seen it.
     
  10. Drew_Atreides

    Drew_Atreides Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "Atlantis" is definitely a very very good scifi show. I'm currently watching the fourth season. It's parent show, "SG-1" is superior, but there are few shows that can match the quality of storytelling that SG-1 produced.

    Who knew that a cheesy semi-B movie like "Stargate" would spawn one of the most successful television science fiction franchises EVER.

    It's amazing what just a little tweaking of the concept produced.

     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    They certainly expanded the concept far beyond the Star Wars/Indiana Jones adventure of the film.

    Early SG-1 was really the modern incarnation of what once was appealing about Star Trek, but it's lonngevity allowed it to grow into something else very different by giving it the luxary of following up on dangling plot elements of previously stand-alone episodes, eventually tying them into other dangling threads until it becomes a very organic, interconnected tapestry of stories. And, generally, they maintained extraordinary continuity within the series, which further enhanced the series.

    Atlantis was an interesting beast- it's rotating cast members was both an assest and a drawback to it, yet it managed to usually make it work. It's introduction of a heavier focus on dogfights and fighter pilot elements also helped distinguish it from SG-1 more (whose team members only got into the cockpit every now and then).

    It also really upped what was capable with TV budget effects. IIRC, the CG model of Atlantis exceeds the size of most feature film effects models. The dogfights were always excellent, and in it's last 2 seasons there were battles and sequences on the scale of (and near the quality of) the Star Wars films (past and present).

    They also were excellent, later on, with larger squad-based shoot-outs that brought an excellent sense of strategy or tactics (regardlss of how real they were or were not).

    Shep was sort of a Jack clone, but different enough not to be distracting- and he generally could get angrier than jack was in later seasons. Plus he was always good to getting whumped around pretty fierce. Episodes facing him against Kolya always brought out the best in his character (It's not a Kolya episode until Shep screams "KOLYA!" at least once).

    McKay was the heart of the series, though- even people who hated Atlantis were sad to see it go because of losing him. Easily the best character on the show. Him and Zelenka always made for a good pair.

    I missed Ford, though hated his Lost Boys arc/performance, so it's a mixed bag. Ronon was far more fun as the muscle of the team, and the Han/Chewie relationship they developed between him and Shep was fantastic.

    I liked both Doctors, though I know some fans hated the Firefly one. Weir I had nothing against, Carter was fine, but I think Woolsey was excellent.

    Teyla was mostly useless. Though she did a great job with the song in that excellent Season 2 episode.


    The series as a whole is an inetretsing beast. The first season was one of the best 1st seasons you'll find for a series- it came across as a slightly darker version of SG-1, and only had a couple weak episodes. But it had a strong season arc start to finish.

    Season 2 didn't necessarily go worse, though the Lost Boys thing anchoring the middle of Season 2 dragged things down a bit, but it did suffer from the "assumed chemistry" between the characters- something the producers recognzied was a problem and worked to focus on fixing in Season 3, which was excellent/ Season 4 got better. And I think Season 5, minus 2 episodes or so, was it's strongest season of the series, which unfortunately had a weak finale from having to cram a two-parter into a single episode. A shame, really. The Gate shows are always a victim of their own success- never getting to really end a show on their terms properly (the closest would be Season 8 acting as essentially a series finale for the original cast).
     
  12. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    25. 'The Jetsons'
    "The Jetsons" is a classic sci-fi show, complete with space cars and a robotic maid. The show lasted from 1962-1988.


    First, was this show really better than "Futurama"? Second, did it really last "from 1962-1988? The answer to both questions is "no". The show was produced from 1962-1963, then it lived on with the same ******* 24 episodes in endless rotation for years and years. In the mid 80s, the show was relaunched for syndication. In addition, there was a Jetsons movie in 1990, some tv specials, and now we have a planned live-action Jetsons movie. If you're like me, you will be thinking of nothing else until that one comes out.
     
  13. Zaz

    Zaz Jedi Knight star 9

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    [face_laugh]

    Absolutely. I didn't know there were as many as 24 episodes, because I seem to see the same one each time I'm browsing on TV.
     
  14. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I live in constant hope that someone will come to their senses and kill the live action version before it even starts. Putting this show on the list of the best Sci-Fi shows is like putting The Flintstones on the list of the best Historical shows; superficially, somewhat true, but seriously now.
     
  15. DAR

    DAR Force Ghost star 4

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    I'm still waiting for the flying cars the Jetsons promised us.
     
  16. Django211

    Django211 Force Ghost star 4

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    How a number of these shows were placed ahead of Futurama is beyond me, especially The Jetsons. I'd put Futurama in the top 3 of this list. The only thing these shows have in common is that they are both animation. In terms of laughs, heart or sci-fi, Futurama is so far beyond The Jetsons its hard to believe the makers of this list watched both series.
     
  17. Zaz

    Zaz Jedi Knight star 9

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    It's certainly not better than "Futurama"
     
  18. Darth58

    Darth58 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ditto everybody on The Jetsons vs Futurama.

    The Jetsons were harmless fun, but even my 7-year-old self recognised it was 'The Flintstones ... IN SPACE!' :p Maybe there's an argument for them setting a standard or something but it shouldn't be this high.
     
  19. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    24. 'Wonder Woman'
    "Wonder Woman" captures the number 24 spot on our list. Wonder Woman, played by the lovely Lynda Carter, is a believable super heroine who fought the evil Nazis during World War II. After the war, she returned to her island of women. However, during the last season, she re-emerges 30 years later when Major Steve Trevor's son, Steve Trevor Jr., enlists her to battle evil once again. OK, the writers did a poor job in trying to transport her into the modern day, but the show was good enough to cut them some slack.


    There's no question: Lynda Carter really was lovely. As for the show: plenty good fun. Also interesting was her husband Robert Altman's involvement with the infamous BCCI scandal and subsequent trial and acquittal for banking/securities fraud.
     
  20. Zaz

    Zaz Jedi Knight star 9

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    Haven't seen this one, bar pictures.
     
  21. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I know we've moved on, but even if the Jetsons did set some kind of standard, it was an awfully stupid one, wasn't it? :p
     
  22. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    23. 'Tales from the Crypt'
    This great HBO show lasted from 1989 to 1996 and featured scary stories, mostly based on comics from the 1950s. The show was hosted by the gruesome, and funny, Crypt Keeper.


    I count two episodes out of seven seasons that marginally qualify as science fiction. Otherwise, great show. R rated tv horror is da bomb.
     
  23. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I was giong to say that this show is really horror, not sci-fi. Occasionally brilliant; occasionally silly; occasionally cliched and predictable. But really, why quibble with a show dedicated to continuing, in its own off beat way, the anthology premise of The Twilight Zone and Alfred Hitchcock Presents. The show wasn't as consistent as either of those, I don't think (though certainly both of those shows also had weak episodes), but at its best, you could taste the influence.
     
  24. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah- horror, not scifi.

    Still, love the Crypt Keeper.
     
  25. Jabbadabbado

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    22. 'Andromeda'

    "Andromeda" was the brainchild of "Star Trek" creator Gene Roddenberry. It's the story of Captain Dylan Hunt (played by Kevin Sorbo) who is on a mission to rebuild the All-Systems Commonwealth 300 years after it fell apart. It's not the best of Roddenberry, but it's pretty good.


    I watched the first season and then unfortunately never found time to watch it thereafter, but it was consistently entertaining and worthwhile simply for being not Star Trek. And you have to be impressed with Sorbo's career. How many people have had back to back successful tv series? He does sword and sorcery fantasy AND sci fi!
     
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