JCC Transgender, nonbinary, genderqueer

Mathilda is a wonderful woman, and she's good at explaining things about us trans women. These facts also apply to me, since I had my transition surgery in 2014 and I've been taking estrogen since then.

 

I did not know Nazis burned trans books, nor that such books even existed at the time

And apparently neither did JK Rowling.

 

I didn't know about that actual specific incident, but if course did know about the overall persecution of LGBTQ+ people under the Nazis so it's certainly not surprising.

Also not surprising that such an organization existed in Germany in the 30s, given the sexual liberation and queer communities that grew in Germany in the 20s.

 

This bastard and third-rate author.

 

JK Rowling's denial of the Nazis' crimes against transgender people (both prior to and during the Holocaust) illustrates who she is.

 

There's a flipping Wikipedia page on the persecution of transgender people in Nazi Germany. To paraphrase Traudl Junge, ignorance isn't an excuse.

 

The issue isn't what she does or doesn't know already, it's what she does when provided new information. The argument about the wikipedia page speaks to the former, not the latter, and broad statements do get taken to mean that there's no point in trying to grow because you'll be condemned to begin with.

Which isn't to say she can't or shouldn't be criticised for what she does when provided new information, just that that's what the criticism should be about.

 

Since she has pegged her reputation to her trans views, you’d think she would make an effort to educate herself on the topic. It’s pretty well known that Weimar Germany was an epicentre for LGBT liberalisation. It’s not like this is obscure.

 

Evidently she's never seen Cabaret.

 

She's probably a couple 'thoughts' away from going "You know, in a way, the Nazis were actually not as bad as everyone says..."

 

The comments are just really bizarre and easily debunked. Although there’s a sensitive discussion which has to be had around various trans issues, she’s so personally invested and I suspect she just deeply hates trans women in particular that she’s become pathological about the whole thing.

 

Couldn't have said it better. It's really annoying when people become negatively obsessed with trans women, or when others become unhealthily fixated on them in a way they believe is positive when it's anything but. I feel sheltered most of the time because I volunteer at a liberal church and I got to make some of the high schoolers and the youth minister chuckle tonight after we got done with our lesson and games. My trans friends in New York and Rhode Island are the main ones with whom I speak. I was lucky to be able to hang out with them in September. Anyhow, I don't want to share too many personal events. But I'm amazed that all three trans folks I met in Eugene were fond of Donald Trump. It was so bizarre.

I personally find Rowling a tad less dangerous than Libs of TikTok herself and Matt Walsh. At the end of the day, however, what I suspect is backed up by the polls I've seen like this one: https://glaad.org/election-2024-voter-poll/. The public in America is tired of the transphobia because it's a waste of time and gas. It's pretty obvious that trans people are sociologically just like everyone else. At any rate, if any of you want to PM me, I can send you two brief articles I wrote for my church newsletter. That's all I'd send. But I'd rather not come off as doom and gloom about this topic. The articles are about preparation of food for the homeless and so on. Great words from all you guys.

 

Being compared to a nazi is very hurtful. It is the ultimate slippery slope argument. This is where your argument leads: concentration camps and final solutions. It’s so natural to want to try to erase the slippery slope if people are making that comparison about your beliefs. Too bad for Rowling that trying to erase the Nazi slippery slope has its own special term of art.

 

Most definitely. She has a great deal of time on her hands and I think that there is a fixation problem, since she has made this her entire identity on X-Twitter. She's obsessed and she comes off like Walsh or Owens. What I do see, however, is that Rowling herself is unhappy despite being so wealthy. She posted of late about how she needed all this "therapy" and "crystals." But I'm fairly certain that a therapist would encourage her to dispel herself of all this hate. An actual therapist would ask her to try to learn more and to seek a more empathetic direction. What I see here is some affluenza, or a refusal for her to listen to how others feel and experience things. It's stupefying in a way because, well, Rowling wrote a pretty good story about two wars to take down magical Hitler. One would think that she would identify with the original inspiration for Harry Potter, a guy who had feeling for the common person. Anyhow, it's just baffling how Ms. Rowling can do these mental gymnastics all day, detach herself from basic reality. It's unhealthy in how it affects others. There are many more positive ways that a creative author could spend their time.

 

Yeah, I was talking about Rowling, not any of the posters here. Sorry for the miscommunication!

 

All good. Talking about a confusing person is difficult sometimes for anybody.

 

I actually agree with this. Ms. Rowling went down a weird and windy road. She doesn't appear to have the capacity to understand that simply talking to transgender and gendernonconforming individuals will help her to get the answers she really wants. Like you said, it's pretty darn easy to absorb new info. I can remember how Rowling was trying to say that Hogwarts was a "safe place for LGBT people". She flipped on some things. It's strange. A lot of this could have been avoided. Billionaires get in a bubble. If this isn't proof of how damaging a bubble like this can be to a demographic, then I don't know what is.

 

She yeets ignorance and jealousy to the moon and back again.. Her obsession with trans ppl is pretty out there. I was thinkin about this.. When I become a sex therapist Ima just put down now that I would fire a client like JK. Counselors cannot work with somebody like that. They need more than 1 profesh to help em. She's prolly lookin at a lot of stuff online that she will not admit. JK be like and .. This is proof that all that bread can't buy happiness. #BillionairesShouldNotExist#

 

https://fcceugene.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Shalom-2024-February.pdf

https://fcceugene.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Shalom-2024-April.pdf

So, the article I wrote in February is on page 4 of the first thing, and I wrote something else on page 9 of the second one. I'm happy I passed a background check to volunteer for these programs. Also, grateful that I attend a church where, if someone misgendered anyone, they would not be allowed in front of children or youth.

On an unrelated matter, some of you have asked me in private messages to define what libragender and paragender mean. The answers are in these links.

https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Para...ender identity,a connection to another gender.

https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Libragender

I found those interesting and validating for others.

 

I can understand what you're saying here. And I wanna be clear in saying that I only believe those who want to actively harm LGBTQ+ folks are comparable to Nazis. This includes attacking us directly or inciting others to hate crime us. But the comparison is made due to history. I'd be saying the same thing about communists if they went out their way to attack this community; I'd say the same about any ideologue who elected to do so. The point is that the LGBTQ+ folks are the same as any group that is harmed. There is no real reason to attack us, to attack any other group. That's what I was getting at. But I understand what you and Juliet were getting at.

My personal view is that JK Rowling needs help. I think she has some PTSD or something. I don't dislike her. I feel that she needs genuine friends, and she needs to cease her obsession with kicking powerless victims. Having said that, I can believe that and still disagree with her. I think that Matt Walsh, Elon Musk, and their ilk are more dangerous transphobes. While Rowling was misguided, I'm actually glad that she brought this topic up in a way, since now more people than ever will know that the Nazis were transphobic. The Nazis' targeting of trans folks was different than their targeting of gay people, and they knew it. They wrote it down and any rudimentary google search will explain that.

The reason that intersex people, nonbinary people, and transgender people do not want to suffer a genocide is simple. They're are not a ton of us and we don't want to die. Personally, I'm glad that I'm a part of a cis community that would give me estrogen if the Trump and his allies were to cut off estrogen and testosterone for transgender binary people. I honestly don't much care if people spit at me, since I'm in a safe area and I have a cis partner who's twice as strong as me to keep freaks away from me. I'm more concerned about my community being targeted in the U.S. and around the world. I wouldn't claim to know how many transgender people there are in the U.S., but some estimates claim over a million. I'd post a link, but as Lowbacca says, best to read and research things before posting.

 

A question from a non-native speaker please How does the English language handle nouns that are gendered (like actor/actress or widow/widower) to make them gender-neutral? I'm thinking here in particular of a situation where you apply them to a person who uses the pronouns they/them. Do you simply revert to the basic form of the word, no matter if it's initially masculine or feminine? Or is it preferable to go for an alternative word or turn of phrase to avoid these words altogether?