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JCC United States BBQ Education

Discussion in 'Community' started by The Jedi in the Pumas, Aug 3, 2023.

  1. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    i never had peppery/tomato-based bbq when i lived in western south carolina, and i've not had peppery/spicy/vinegary bbq in coastal south carolina.

    i've only had copius amounts of bbq soaked in "carolina gold" mustard from the day i was born, and it's the only bbq i acknowledge. although i'd like to try kansas city's some time, it looks very good.
     
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  2. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    My sister, who unlike me has a valid claim to being born and raised on Texas BBQ, and formally was an advocate for it, was an instant convert to KC when she visited there for an internship. Make of that what you will.

    Personally my young palate was formed in Chicago so, y’know, everything needs to be soaked in tomato and salt, style be damned. :p
     
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  3. mnjedi

    mnjedi JCC Arena Game Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    KC style dry rub ribs can’t be beat IMO.
     
  4. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    is this Carolina gold mustard a sweet mustard or?
     
  5. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    yes - it's like mustard syrup, although some variations have more sugar than others. it sounds disgusting, but it's very good. although i've been conditioned on it for 30+ yrs.
     
  6. The Jedi in the Pumas

    The Jedi in the Pumas Force Ghost star 5

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    You poor souls who have never had this from this VERY SPECIFIC SPOT won’t quite understand how true this statement is.
     
  7. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Jedi Commish star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    From a sauce perspective, nothing is quite as good as the Carolina Gold Mustard.

    That being said, the best BBQ is BBQ that doesn't need sauce. The best I've had in that regard are the Burnt Ends in Kansas City (with Joe's Kansas City nee Oklahoma Joe's the hands-down winner in that regard) and the Ribs in Memphis.

    And now I miss having a boss in Kansas City and being summoned there about every six weeks for work trips.
     
  8. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    My favorite dumb fact about BBQ?

    The old-school, 1600s-1700s word for BBQ was “boucan,” for the smoking cooking style of Caribbean food… so the original BBQers, who had occasional habits of jumping onto canoes and small skiffs to rob the treasure ships of the Spanish Main or sack whole cities, were called “buccaneers.”
     
  9. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You mean BBQ lobster, right?
     
  10. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    This is my view as well. KC is the best actual meat. But gimme that Carolina sauce.

    Texas brisket is very good but I just don't care as much about it as ribs and burnt ends.
     
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  11. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    If it’s not dessert, I don’t want sugar (or molasses, or honey) in it, which is why I’m adverse to a lot of barbecue sauces.
     
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  12. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    this is where I'm at

    @EHT even some of the McDonald's here serve lobster rolls lol, but no, in addition to lobster every where there are some bbq places around, Moe's bbq here in Bangor is pretty good

    https://www.moesoriginalbbq.com/lo/bangor
     
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  13. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    While I'm sure it still has some sugar, my favorite KC BBQ sauce is Joe's Night of the Living Sauce, which is spicy. If I'm gonna have sauce I want some kick
     
  14. Sarge

    Sarge 6x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Tell them about the little bottle of tabasco sauce in MREs.

    If you want to get run out of Maine on a rail, that's a good way to make it happen.
     
  15. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    All barbecue types, no matter it's origin, are a triumph of gastro delight.

    Sauces, no sauces, rubs, smoke...yes...YES>>>YESSS!

    I have even had "fine dining" barbecue...and it was great. They took my left leg as payment...maybe that was the next day's special. I dunno.

    One thing I have learned in the endless pursuit of barbecue...there is always better barbecue...and often you are surprised by the new discovery.

    Always be in search of more barbecue. If you just stand on "my barbecue", you may be satisfied, but at what cost?

    But if you stay open-minded...oh the colors!
     
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  16. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    :p

    In all seriousness tho, Carolina mustard-based sauce on pulled pork slaps. But nothing beats my beloved Kansas City 'cue. Jack Stack, Gates (which, contrary to how most people get it served, requires no sauce), etm.; you cannot swing a dead cat in Kansas City without hitting a quality BBQ establishment. I found Q39 to be overpriced and not quite up to the hype. Still tasty though.
    Slaw, fries, and/or onion rings. To finish though, Gates' Yummy Yammer Pie is a win.

    I live in CoMO now, and I try and get KC 'cue whenever I get the chance. One of the perks of where I work (shameless plug for Veterans United Home Loans :p VU for short) is that they encourage social interaction by way of what they call ConnectU; i.e., people with shared interests (D&D, wine, murder mysteries, women over 40, cheese enthusiasts, you name it) find each other and hang out.

    I'm part of a group that calls itself VQue (get it? ;)) where we meet once a month, swap Q techniques, check out what CoMO has to offer (such as it is) as far as 'cue faire. So far the best overall locally is a place called CoMO Smoke & Fire, and they had the nerve to open a location right near where I work. My BMI did not need that kind of temptation [face_laugh]
     
  17. The Jedi in the Pumas

    The Jedi in the Pumas Force Ghost star 5

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    *nods along, pretending to know what CoMo is*
     
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  18. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    *nods with a raised eyebrow, as his brother also works for Veterans United in Columbia, Missouri (CoMo)*
     
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  19. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh, who? (PM me)

    But thanks to the VQue group, we were able to get BTS at a couple of the other BBQ restaurants here, Big Daddy's and Bud's. Plus, I've learned quite a few tips and tricks for smoking at home
     
  20. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I honestly feel deep sorrow for people who haven’t experienced B’s. I was in Greenville for a week for a funeral on my wife’s side (she’s from SC, with family in NC), and…we went to B’s every day - though tragedy struck on one of those days when we got there late and the pit was closed.
     
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  21. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Hey I didn't know you were in CoMo, nice. I actually had decent BBQ there once but I forgot the name.

    Glad you're able to make it over for KC BBQ. Have you tried Slaps or Meat Mitch? I find these both good for overall quality, though they don't have anything as stellar as Joe's ribs
     
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  22. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    If it was from a few years ago, there was Smokin’ Chicks, but they couldn’t weather the pandemic :( The original location was near Rock Bridge, and then they moved the Broadway & Fairview. There’s also CoMo Smoke & Fire, which is pretty good; the original location is out near Hallsville, and they’ve opened a second near Providence & Green Meadows, in what used to be Buckingham’s Barbecue, which was definitely a trade up; my review of Buckingham’s was “they have good salads.” o_O[face_coffee]

    Big Daddy’s was in a trailer on Business Loop. They relocated to a full restaurant on Paris Rd about a year ago and are flourishing :cool:
    I have not. I’ll have to look them up the next next time I’m in town. We’re celebrating a couple of family birthdays later today, and I don’t think any of us will have room for ‘cue after Hereford House :p
     
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  23. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That is a cold, cold comment on a BBQ shack.:p
     
  24. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I’m partial to vinegar-based sauces myself - East Carolina. I’ll take a light vinegar sauce any day over mustard or tomato-based goop, which are too sweet and heavy. Then again, I just love vinegar. It’s my only condiment for fries too. Ketchup can get bent.
     
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  25. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    It was pre pandemic because it was during the 2019 eclipse. We drove to CoMo to see it in all its glory. But I think it might have been Smoke and Fire.
     
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