Saga Here is my unorthodox Star Wars opinion: change my mind!

I felt that way once, but it limits people having their favorite color as a saber. I say the more colors the merrier.

 

Yes! Which would mean that only Luke Skywalker has the green variant. Much like Mace Windu having a rare purple. That's be cool.

 

Woundt make sense.

 

Re: the Fetts being Mandalorians.

In Glut’s novel, which I read when I was a preteen, Boba Fett and his Mandalorian armor were introduced thusly:

From this phrasing I had always gathered that while Bobs Fett wore Mandalorian armor, he himself was not a Mandalorian. Just me though. Anyway, so the same goes for Jango.

 

The Mandalorians as a concept was a Lucas creation. Whatever material he came up with is his thought process. The Mandalorian name and history outside of Lucas is EU and was subject to change at any time. That includes Boba or Jango being a Mandalorian or not.

 

Jango Fett was a Mandalorian. Mandalorian is both a race and religion, so the Fetts are definately by blood Mandos, but Jango was part of Jaster Mereel’s Clan, there is Mereel Mando Clan; so Jango was Mando by faith too. Boba is by extension, being a clone of Jango.

 

The fanmade reimagining of the ANH duel by is better than the original.

 

I think the original duel is 10 times better than the “reimagined” video. Not as a “fight scene”, but as cool looking visuals

A tone poem if you will, like when Anakin and Dooku fight in the dark on Geonosis

 

The Anakin/Dooku fight on Geonosis is great.

 

To each their own, but calling the original ANH duel better because of its "cool visuals'' just sounds weird to me, especially compared to the reimagined version.

I don't dislike Anakin vs. Dooku, but all the face closeups are a bit awkward.

 

For someone who spent many years learning various forms of swordplay, the original ANH duel is by far the most realistic.

 

I dunno how much you can compare a serious duel to the death with laserswords and Force-users to normal swordplay, but I don't much care for how realistic it is, I just think the original duel is very underwhelming. It's two guys slowly moving and circling each other in one room and mildly tapping swords. It's too slow and too casual and makes Obi-Wan, and especially Vader, look too feeble.

Nah, sorry. I don't hate the original, and the remake isn't perfect, but it's far more dynamic and dramatically fitting, and makes Vader and Obi-Wan look more impressive.

 

Agreed. I like it better than Anakin and Dooku’s Duel in ROTS.

 

I will agree it does not gel when you have 80 year old Dooku flipping around and then you have combatants 20 odd years younger being as slow as they are in ANH.

 

Actually its realistic, Vader lost to Kenobi twice, and Kenobi lost to Vader once. They are cautious because both of them have broken one another: Vader cut to a stump and one limb and Kenobi roasted on fire; that would make any combatant a little timid, especially in old age.

 

^I don't buy that as an excuse. They're acting more like two friends who are sparring than two enemies battling to the death. Vader at least shouldn't be holding back so much.

It was the very first lightsaber duel, I think that's really the only good excuse for it.

 

I always felt Vader didn’t want to kill Kenobi. His obession over his old master is so strong Palpatine chides him in the Kenobi Series. Its when Obi-Wan “lowers his defenses,” that Anakin/Vader realizes their time is at an end, no more rematches, this time Obi-Wan lets his former apprentice win, because a greater victory awaits, the Return of Anakin Skywalker; that is the real Return of the Jedi.

 

^That's a bunch of conjecture. Vader hates Obi-Wan and has tried to kill him multiple times by ANH. He's not going to just stop doing that, or decide he should only try to kill him at a certain time when Obi-Wan allows it.

 

It what I see in the scene. Vader isn’t waiting for Kenobi to let him kill him, but I think there is a respect for his former master. This is proven with Vader saying many times, “Obi-Wan has taught you well,” to Luke. You can hate a person and still love and respect them; its possible to feel a range of emotions about someone.

 

A line about him teaching Luke well isn't saying much, definitely not enough to make me think Vader wouldn't still hate or want to kill the guy who chopped his arm and legs off and left him to burn to death.

You're disregarding a whole lot of bad history between these two in favor of vague little things serving as ''proof'' that Vader didn't want Obi-Wan dead. IMO that's just stretching things to make sense of a duel that is the way it is more for meta reasons than anything.

I get wanting an in-universe explanation, but I think anyone who knows these characters would know that Obi-Wan is one person Vader would probably be least likely to hold back on in a duel.

 

Lets nor forget Anakin’s words, “don’t say that Master, you are the closest thing I have had to a father.” (Attack of the Clones, Cantina, Coruscant). Obi-Wan wasn’t just a Master to Vader, he was a father figure. Anakin grew up with no father, so people filled that vacuum: Qui-Gon, Kenobi, and Palpatine.

 

It's not a question of holding back because of not wanting to kill or win, they're holding back because each of them remembers how dangerous the other is. When you're up against an opponent with the potential to maim or kill you, you tend to be cautious, not wanting to attack wildly and leave yourself open to a powerful counterattack.

 

^ All of them are going nuts with the wild swings. A calm, controlled swordsman like Kenobi and Vader in ANH would see the openings and strike a fight-ending blow in a heartbeat.

 

I could buy both of them having some caution, but the lack of energy in the ANH is too much. Again, they act more like they're sparring than having a serious duel.

Don't know what Anakin saying Obi-Wan's like a father to him in the PT, before all the bad things happened between them, is supposed to prove. That Vader wouldn't kill him? Lol, no. Again: