Speculation Villains for the Spin-offs

Regarding the title of the thread: I guess it would be cool to show why Han left the Empire and met Chewie, which means that the main antagonist is an Imperial officer. And even though I would gladly take a newly created villain and am not a fan of things like "Anakin built 3PO, I could see the arrogant Ozzel (fantastic in Timothy Zahn's "Allegiance")as the main baddie.

Regarding Dash Rendar: It might be a while ago (namely 1996) since I read and played Shadows of the Empire, but Dash Rendar is literally Han with a different name, an slightly different shaped ship and a droid instead of a Wookie sidekick.

 

I don't know. If Disney is really desperate, they could retcon Dash to be a gay Han Solo. Then there might be something new and interesting about him, and his droid.

 

I think at this stage in proceedings any new Star Wars movie could be accussed of rehashing characters, situations and designs. However, if handled well, I think there are some potentially interesting stories out there to be told... be it revolving around young Han Solo, Boba Fett, Yoda and Obi-Wan. Without wanting to state the obvious, it really is all about how it's handled.

As far as the villains are concerned... Let's see Jabba, Dark Sun, Tarkin, Darth Plagueis, Darth Maul, Grievious. Hell, there are many existing characters in Star Wars canon (assuming that all the spin offs are prequels to the OT) that could be explored. I personally would like to see Ray Parks return as Maul. Here's a great character that had only circa 15 mins of screentime in TPM.

 

Regarding this thread, are we supposed to just use characters from the EU?
Or are we supposed to pick an already established film character?
Or are we to make someone up as we don't yet know what the spinoffs will exactly be?

(I didn't miss the confirmation did I? They've only confirmed they're being made, but not about whom?)

 

Dang good questions. I suppose it's obvious that we'll have a Han movie, which may have been confirmed earlier today. In which case, I'm pulling for Cad Bane.

Who else will probably have a movie? Yoda? Maybe an old Sith villain? Who knows?

Obi-Wan? Sand people?

Won't Vader likely have a film? If so, the villain will be the protagonist. Unless he has some evil greater than him to off? A Sith challenger? Maul?

 

In the Luke spin off, the villain will be Luuke.
I'm OK with the Cad Bane idea for Han.
Maul on the Vader spin off could work I suppose.
and in the Buboicullaar spin off, the main villain will be D'Achrantie Cet Baorrotha.

 

I remember really loving a Boba Fett comic where Boba goes through this husk of a star destroyer (protected by guard droids in a junkyard) to find a little box, and brings it back to a retired imperial officer who tells him he won't pay him. Fett goes to kill him and he says that was the point, after he lost his ship and his wife he had nothing left. The box turns out to be a holo of the Officer's wife, and as he starts to break down Boba shoots him in the head. He has a moment of almost feeling sorry for the guy, but walks away. I think something like that would be perfect for the opening of a Boba Fett spin-off. That as a short, then titles. It'd set him up as a cold killer in a world more ambiguous than the main star wars films.

I know that's not really a villain, but he's played up like he will be one till you realize he's simply 'outlived his usefulness' to society.

 

Back at ya:

 

I'm pretty sure none of it will have any connection to the existing EU material and that they'll do their own new things with villains.
The only ones I can see making an appearance at some point are Plagueis, Palpatine, Maul and maybe Vader, depending on the timeline.

 

I like that idea. Lets not forget Vader is a force of order. Its easy to pit him against a force of chaos.

 

If there was a Count Dooku spin off/origins - who would be the villain then?

 

Right. It's not like all Anakin wanted from becoming a Sith was to be a villain. Even Lucas says Vader still considers himself the Chosen One. Maybe Vader faces a villain or threat that he thinks he defeats which ends up coming back to haunt the GFFA in the ST?

 

A terrorist. An insane cult leader. A maniacal psychopath ala Patrick Bateman. Someone who plays outside the rules of the saga villains we've seen.

 

"This spinoff deserves a better class of villain."

 

That's not what he meant. What he meant is that the imperial officer has Chewie as slave and Han freezes him (in carbonite)... so when the Imperials have him frozen in TESB, it was just a payback...

 

I'd go for either the Sith witches or Grievous pre robotic fixtures and fittings... It would be interesting if Dooku was responsible for Grievous' injuries (would have to negate the EU comic of course).

 

I hope Trioculus is the villain.

 

If I remember correctly, the reason they froze Han in carbonite was to test if the system was safe for Luke so Vader could take him to the Emperor. Now, as for the villains, like Darth_Pevra said, they are most likely to be different then the whole black robes and cackling thing. For the Boba spin-off something along the lines of competing bounty hunters or a criminal syndicate of some kind.

Now for the Han one, Imps would fit better here and possibly having something to do with Chewbacca would work. Now, I'm not a EU master, but chances are that they won't use any of these characters EU background stories or sub-plots.

 

I know this draws heavily upon the EU, but bear with me anyway. I'd like a spinoff/origin film detailing some of the events of Dooku's early life as a Jedi. In particular, it would be cool to have other familiar characters like Qui-Gon, perhaps as a freshly minted Knight, but still maintaining a good friendship with Dooku, and Jango Fett (who had plenty of dealings with Dooku in AotC) show up. In the case of a Dooku film, I want a lot of moral ambiguity. Emphasize Dooku's political idealism and his growing discontent with the corruption he perceives in the Republic, and his belief that the Jedi Order are falling into complacency and turmoil by mingling so heavily in Senate politics. In this case we can have no true ultimate villain, other than perhaps Hego Damask secretly pulling strings and influencing Dooku's beliefs in the Republic's decline, a la the Plagueis novel, ultimately culminating in Dooku's disillusionment with the Order and departure following Qui-Gon's demise. We can also see Sifo-Dyas for perhaps the first time onscreen (assuming he doesn't appear in flashbacks in the TCW bonus episodes), and have the the two men's mutual respect and friendship established.

I'd like the film to show other characters like Jango Fett and how he first came to Dooku's notice: the Battle of Galidraan, where Fett's True Mandalorians were decimated by Dooku and the Jedi in a massacre engineered by Fett's rival, Tor Vizsla of Death Watch. This battle can do a really good job of showing moral ambiguity and how easily the Jedi could be manipulated into destroying those they perceive as threats, when in reality, the real threat was the one manipulating them all along (shades of the Clone Wars, anyone?). Plus, it would give us a excuse to show Jango Fett single-handedly kicking Jedi shebs. Fett would come to Dooku's attention when the Jedi Master witnessed the Mandalorian slaughtering six Jedi with his bare hands. Thus, we can see why Dooku chose Jango as the clone template for the GAR; he already had experience in dealing with and killing Jedi, and rightfully took his place as the galaxy's best bounty hunter during the pre-Clone Wars era.

I realize all of this may be better suited to the Spinoff/Origin Story thread, but I did detail a potential ensemble of villains that Dooku and the Jedi has to face.

 

I mentioned this in a different thread, but I can easily see Thrawn being the villain in a spin off film. He's got a bit of a special place in the EU, in that he's from a series that the vast majority of readers agree is excellent, and in that even relatively casual Star Wars fans know about him. I agree with most that the post-ROTJ EU material will probably be erased, but since the story takes place before Luke's founding of the new Jedi Order, it'd be pretty easy to adapt Thrawn to whatever direction they take for the galaxy in the sequel trilogies. You'd just have to potentially take out a few details like the Jacen/Jaina birth or the Obi-Wan scene.

 

It is clear that this film will already overwrite -insert spin of protagonists name here-'s EU origin story. Therefore having the delusion that they will be pitted against an EU villain is illogical for that reason as well as the fact these films have to cater for a broad audience (not just us loyal fans.) The only time I think we will see any acknowledgement/ integration of the EU into the spin offs will be a full adaption of the Darth Plagueis novel.
Additionally, if it is the rumored Solo movie, it will likley see the return of aditional familiar faces. Chewie is a given to return, Lando, Jabba and Boba are both likely too. Personally I'd like to see a film that explains Fett and Han's rivalry as well as the Hutt crime culture, in addition showing Han's acquisition of the Falcon from Lando. My money is on some new crime lord for the Solo movie, and absolutely no lightsaber wielders... Having people flailing lightsabers around in the gangster environment would ruin it.

 

I was just joking...

 

Depending on the plot of the spin-offs the villains will obviously vary.

Yoda is centuries old, so if he's only 100 in his movie he might well fight numerous Sith Lords. After that they would be mostly gone so he'd have some other threat to deal with.

Boba Fett is often a villain because he usually works for the Empire, but if a movie about him is during the rise of the Empire he may have to deal with those who are enemies of Jabba.

Han if he is meeting Chewbacca & smuggling would likely be fighting the Empire.

 

Oops, sorry about that, sometimes I take things too seriously

 

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