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Virgin's of the Expanded Universe!

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Alixen, Mar 1, 2005.

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  1. Alixen

    Alixen Jedi Master star 4

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    Hey all :)

    It's been a while since i posted, so i thought i'd make an unusual one.
    This has probobly being disscussed in the 'Luke, Mara, The Force and Sex...' thread, but i reeeeaaaally dont have time to go through over a hundred pages ;)

    Only very few of the Star Wars books go into relationships, and those that do the couple will rarley even kiss.

    But thats understandable of course, children do have access to a lot of the books.

    Now the Comics are a diffrent matter, there are quite a few instances of kissing and scantily clad women and sometime Men.
    Anyone remember the Sith-Gimp Mask Asajj had on Obi-Wan when she had captured him? Unusual to say the least o_O

    But my wanderings extended a little, i have a lot of time free.

    Was Padme, an attractive woman who had been a Queen, still a Virgin before Anakin? i doubt it but what are your opinions?
    For that matter was Anakin? we know the Jedi rule's are strict but he was a nineteen year old hormonal male in a temple of hormonal Girls, not to mention he has traveled various planets, or did he save himself for Padme?

    What about Obi-Wan, from what i'v seen he has probobly had the most sex in the Star Wars galaxy lol, he has had a few girls he has had feelings for, he has been in many strange situations, so i wonder when he first got into the game.

    Qui-Gon Jinn strikes me as a guy heavily versed in sex, and you just KNOW he and Shmi fooled around the night of the race lmao, or is that just my dirty mind?

    And what about the OT characters? Luke was stuck on a farm most of his youth, but he DID know a few farmgirls.

    Leia? well, Organa struck me as a rather protective father, but she went on quite a few diplomatic missions it seems :/

    Han you just know has been bonking for years lol, who knows when he had his first time, might aswell try and add up his count.

    Hmm the ponderings, the ponderings...

    Thoughts anyone? besides me being a pervert lol?
     
  2. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Padme mentions the only guy she had a crush on in AOTC, but she was only 12 if I remember. If he was the only one, then yes she was a virgin when she married.

    Anakin's only love was Padme since he was 9, so I'd figure he was as well.

    Obi-Wan had a rebellious attitude when he was younger, in fact he left Qui-Gon for a while. So he might have fooled around then. But after he went back to Qui-Gon, he tried extra hard to be a model Padawan. So I'd say from then on, he was celibate.

    Leia, I don't get the impression that relationships were important to her until Han. Remember he had to push his way into her heart?

    Han, you can read about all his women in the Bantam Han Solo books. He had plenty!

    Qui-Gon, I don't know. there's nothing to indicate one way or the other.
     
  3. Tam_Elgrin

    Tam_Elgrin Jedi Master star 4

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    Leia has an old boyfriend who appears in the Empire comics, IIRC.
     
  4. MetalGoldKnight

    MetalGoldKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I doubt either Anakin or Padme had sex before marriage. They both seem like people who would want to wait for their true love, even if Anakin did know that for a Jedi having a true love was forbidden.

    I remember hearing that in some novel it was revealed that Obi-Wan was very close friends with some other Jedi girl when he was a Padawan. It's not too unlikely that he may have had sex with her. Obi-Wan probably had a few other casual relationships, but most likely not too many. It's also implied that he unwillingly had sex with Asajj Ventress while captured, although I'm not sure if that would count as rape since it's a female forcing herself on a male.

    Qui-Gon seems like the type of person who probably had sex a lot when he was younger, but I doubt he was still very active by the time of TPM. I also *really* doubt he slept with Shmi, she really doesn't seem the type of person to sleep with someone she's only known for a day.

    It's implied that Kit Fisto and Aayla Secura were having sex, and that if they weren't restricted by the Jedi code they might have fallen in love.

    Ki-Adi-Mundi had multiple wives. He was allowed to be the exception to the Jedi's no marriage rule, since his specieshad a low percentage of males.

    Count Dooku, like Qui-Gon, was probably sexually active in his past but not by the time we actually see him in the movies.

    I'm not sure about General Grievous, but wasn't it stated that he had multiple wives and children before becoming a cyborg? Regardless, I'm pretty sure he wasn't very sexually active once he was made of durasteel from the eyes down.

    According to the Marvel comics, Luke's first relationship was with Shira Brie, during the time between ESB and RotJ. He's also been in a lot of other relationships between then and his eventual marriage to Mara.

    Leia's first relationship was probably with Han, but knowing Han he probably had a lot of other girls before Leia. I think that Leia was probably the only one he truly cared for, though.

    Lando, like Han, probably had been with a lot of girls.

    Yoda... well, I'm sure he's done something in his 900 years of life. With members of his own species, of course.

    Jango Fett was probably gay or possibly asexual. Why else would someone so obsessed with producing an heir to his legacy have to resort to cloning and not more conventional means?

    Boba Fett is the only one we can really be sure of. He had one wife, and she was the only person he ever had sex with, as he believed sex outside of marriage was 'immoral'.

    Palpatine probably didn't have sex too often. He just strikes me as the type of person who would view himself as beyond physical pleasure. When he did have sex, it was probably only in the hope of producing an offspring worthy of being his new apprentice, and probably gave up after his first few kids were born with extra eyes or lightsabers for arms.

    So what character would be a virgin? Hmm, I'd have to go with Darth Maul. Palpatine had trained Maul from childhood and probably kept him on a very short leash. I doubt Palpatine would want Maul doing anything pleasurable, especially not something that might introduce emotions such as love or compassion.
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, I recall Lucas specified that the Jedi aren't celibate, they're just not meant to form attachments/relationships. So even a "model padawan/knight" might be allowed to fool around on the side.

    >>although I'm not sure if that would count as rape since it's a female forcing herself on a male.<<

    It's still considered rape.
     
  6. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I recall Lucas specified that the Jedi aren't celibate, they're just not meant to form attachments/relationships. So even a "model padawan/knight" might be allowed to fool around on the side.

    I really doubt this since like in real life, when people try to tell themselves it's only physical it still becomes more. Also giving in to lust is showing a lack of discipline, which is what Jedi are suppose to be about.
     
  7. Alixen

    Alixen Jedi Master star 4

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    It's also implied that he unwillingly had sex with Asajj Ventress while captured, although I'm not sure if that would count as rape since it's a female forcing herself on a male.

    Ah, so i'm not the only one who picked up this implication, thought i just had a perverted mind.
    And yea, it is still Rape, it does happen every so often.

    Yea, i agree Anakin was probobly a virgin, but Padme i really have trouble beleiving.
    She was Twenty Four in AotC, and she wasnt waiting for Anakin, she just thought of him as that little boy.
    I don't know many (as in Any) twenty four year old Virgins, even if it was only a casual fling with a senator after a late meeting.

    Same with Leia, assuming she is twenty in ANH, she had another boyfriend? didn't know that.
     
  8. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Padme didn't give me the impression of a person who would have casual sex.

    Remember, Naboo doesn't have the same culture you and I grew up in. The world we live in now is obsessed with sex and it rubs off on all of us.

    You don't see bill-boards in the GFFA of half-naked women advertising different products. Maybe on Coruscant, but not Naboo.
     
  9. Alixen

    Alixen Jedi Master star 4

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    Heh, true but bear in mind is a girl can be Queen at 14 their age of consent is probobly lower than America and England.

    And it doesnt neccaserily have to be casual, she had 10 years to be in a relationship.

    Im not saying she did im just not going to count it out as a possibility.
     
  10. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Tinseltown has hit Literature. 2ndQuest, you're hilarious! About Jedi not being celibate but not forming attachments to their partner.

    :eek: [face_laugh] [face_laugh] :eek:
     
  11. Ackbar_Van_Gungan

    Ackbar_Van_Gungan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This really could have been put in the Mara, Luke, Sex, Relationships Thread

    -The Rebel Gungan
     
  12. MetalGoldKnight

    MetalGoldKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    "I don't know many (as in Any) twenty four year old Virgins, even if it was only a casual fling with a senator after a late meeting."

    You know, having someone be a virgin at twenty years old isn't impossible, trust me. Besides, someone like Padme would probably be very busy with all sorts of political matters and wouldn't have time for casual sex. Same with Leia, at least while she was still a diplomat for Alderaan.
     
  13. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> I really doubt this since like in real life, when people try to tell themselves it's only physical it still becomes more.<<

    Sometimes that is the case, sometimes it isn't. ("friends with benefits", etc) People have one night stands all the time.

    >>This really could have been put in the Mara, Luke, Sex, Relationships Thread<<

    That thread seems to be in the middle of another line of discussion, so I'll allow this one to remain seperate for now so as to not interrupt that. If the thread endures, I'll consolidate it into the other.
     
  14. Alixen

    Alixen Jedi Master star 4

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    Ackbar_Van_Gungan i already commented i would have put it there, exept its most likely been disscussed and i dont feel like reading well over a hundred pages.

    MetalGoldKnight heh, i know it aint impossible, and im not saying they arnt, but the chances they have are just as likely.
    Even the busyest of worker has free time now and then.
     
  15. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I can't believe that Assaj forced Obi-wan to have sex. What quote are you all basing this off? Hardly seems like the sort of thing that would make its way into a comic.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  16. Alixen

    Alixen Jedi Master star 4

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    It's the aftermath of Jabbim, she has captured him.

    I'll let someone else explain the rest, i have a headache >_<
     
  17. -RebelScum-

    -RebelScum- Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    whoever says palps didnt have too much? he had a full pack of concubines
     
  18. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Well, I recall Lucas specified that the Jedi aren't celibate, they're just not meant to form attachments/relationships. So even a "model padawan/knight" might be allowed to fool around on the side.

    Bah, Jedi fall in love, repeatedly and despite the moronic warnings of the Council not to. Kit Fisto and Aayla Secura were probably bumpin' it every night while Mace Windu filmed it and uploaded it to LimeTransmitter, while the Recording Industry Association of the Republic tried to shut it down because it's pissy and wants its credits.

    It's been variously suggested that Anakin had sex with Tahiri off-camera -- I damn well hope so. For all the crap he went through in the NJO, from thinking he killed Chewie to fighting crazed Yuuzhan Vong to frickin' DYING, he deserved to get some. Jacen had Danni and Tenel Ka fall for him -- if he's smart he'd Force persuade them into a threesome. Unfortunately, he's an idiot.

    Jaina...damn, man, she had more boyfriends than Elizabeth Taylor. Naughty, nasty little Jedi Solo girl child.

    *thinks dark side-ish thoughts*

    *licks lips*
     
  19. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't think Asajj had sex with Obi-wan, despite the stylizations of the mask she made him wear.
     
  20. lemon-drop

    lemon-drop Jedi Youngling

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    Palps was probably the most promiscuous character in Star Wars. How many others were there who had their own personal harem, an order of females who respond to his every wish, and a cult following of women who wanted to bear his heir?
     
  21. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sometimes that is the case, sometimes it isn't. ("friends with benefits", etc) People have one night stands all the time.

    Indeed. You can also experiement with drugs without becoming an addict.

    The Jedi laws seem to be about always "playing it safe" and never taking chances no matter what. Heck, they didn't think little Anakin should be trained because he was too old and he was freaking nine!

    Also, do you recall ever seeing a fat Jedi? How about an alcoholic Jedi? I mean they act like they're on crack sometimes, but my point is they would view any addiction as a weakness, whether it be food, drugs, alcohol, or sex.

    Having sex for the purpose of satifying lust is putting one's self on the road to becoming sexually addicted.

    I bet being a Jedi doesn't sound too cool anymore huh?
     
  22. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Oh, come on...they had to. I mean...she's so hot. And he's so...captive.
     
  23. rogue_wookiee

    rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Jango Fett was probably gay or possibly asexual. Why else would someone so obsessed with producing an heir to his legacy have to resort to cloning and not more conventional means?

    Jango's ex-girlfriend showed up in TCD and slept with his clone. [face_plain]
     
  24. New_York_Jedi

    New_York_Jedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Corran Horn wasn't a virgin when he met Mirax, and they had sex before they married.

    It's implied that Wedge has had sex before his marriage.

    I'm positive Wes Janson has had sex.....he's just that type. ;)

    Hobbie...I dunno. Maybe.


    Tycho Celchu is a tough call. He was wildly in love with whatsherface back on Alderaan, so he may have. After that it seems the only woman he is attracted to is Winter, and I have no idea what they were doing.
     
  25. LordJoda-181

    LordJoda-181 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think the Face defintly was a player.

    Same with Ton.

    I think Kell and Tyria hooked up before they were married

    Castin Donn seems like the Kind of Sexually frustrated nice guy computer nerd, who can never get a woman.

    [face_monkey]~J
     
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