Amph Waiting For Superman: Gunnverse DCU/Elseworlds

I really hope the rumors that Cavill is returning as Superman are true. I’m not a big fan of Man of Steel but Cavill is perfect for Superman and he deserves another chance. I just hope they bring in a different director.

 

Spoiler

On the one hand, if you know you’re due for a reboot, go for broke, but on the other hand, boy, DC sure does love framing its post-Crisis reboots in the context of “You were wrong to like this thing, this is a bad universe.” Now I’m not saying it’s anyone’s fault, but it’s definitely Geoff Johns’ fault.

 

Somebody let me know when Wonder Woman's deleted scenes are posted on YouTube.

 

I accept this burden.

 

Thanks, Digster. You're all right. I take back most of the things I've said about you behind your back.

 

Thank you, sir.

for my part I’ll take nothing back and will only add to the catalogue at quite an alarming rate.

 

DON'T CALL ME SIR!!! I WORK FOR A LIVING!!!

 

But your name is Sarge... sir!

 

“You don’t say sir to me, I’m a sergeant, I work for a living!”

 

15 movie dc animated arc, totally didn't know that, I was mostly watching the adaptations like Dark Knight Returns (which is so very great because it's Dark Knight Returns, great cast, awesome music, animation is a bit stiff but I can deal) and Killing Joke (which is about half awesome Killing Joke adaptation and an odd Batgirl opening half, which sorta thematically works in Killing Joke at least by giving Barbara Gordon something to do and it's about obsession which is a Killing Joke theme thing)

 

Ok, i remember watching the original JL and tought meh, i liked all of Zack Snyder's movies and his DCEU. I'm exicited for this. I don't undertand the hate torwards him. WB wronged him after, death in his family. I also say that the DCEU is better then boring popcorn flick Marvel.

 

The Snyder Cut I'm okay with, but do we really need an Ayer cut. I mean more Jared Leto as Joker, please no. Also, doesn't it make things harder for James Gunn's suicide squad if this one bombs too?

 

There's already a extended Director cut of Suicide Squad, I think it's worth a watch for some more character interaction, no idea what else they could get radically different from another version.

 

An interesting take on the Snyder cut:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...s-an-internet-joke-cinephiles-should-root-it/

Tl;dr: The fact Snyder's auteur cut would be released alongside the producers' version is something to be celebrated, as in Hollywood there are often too many cooks in the kitchen, ultimately spoiling the end product.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to a Snyder Cut if he hadn't crapped the bed with the remainder of the DCU, as well as Sucker Punch and Watchmen as well as the internet troglodytism surrounding the damned thing.

 

I don't know how trolling alt right co-opted Syders movies which I've actually all really liked in various ways. Man of Steel definitely has more heart than BvS does. I'm really just thinking I'm worried his Justice League cut will end up being a whole lot of sequel teasing that'll never happen and be irrelevant to the movie that is happening like the Knightmare / Flash stuff in BvS.

Synder's Watchmen version is a pretty solid adaptation, missing squid aside, but the casting is pretty damn fantastic at least. The adaption of Rorsarch and Doctor Manhattan origin issues are straight up perfect. (To be fair, those issues are so great it's impossible to actively make them bad)

 

Yah I can see how maybe that Rorsarch is more "heroic" in the film adaptation but I don't quite see the comic actively despising Rorsarch throughout either, because something like his exit in both the comic and movie is tragic and heroic for him.

The Watchmen tv show I believe spit the difference with having the legacy of his character inspire right wing hate but also "heroic" side of Rorsarch is seen continuing through the character of Looking Glass.

 

I think that what startles people is that Snyder's work, like Tolkien's, lends itself to multiple interpretations, which reveal more about the reader/viewer than the work itself. It's what the Professor called applicability:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Applicability

Also, what confuses the matter all the more is that in both Watchmen and 300, for example, Snyder uses unreliable narrators, so we're kind of left hanging as to what it all means.

 

Yes, it's the children who are wrong...

 

300 was one of the most wildly racist film concepts in a generation. An “unreliable narrator” is a fig leaf for belligerent, inflammatory, disgusting material. This is on par with that guy who wrote the opinion piece that the “send them back” chants at Trump rallies weren’t really bad. People who originate arguments like this—to be clear I’m not blaming our poster on the boards, but the person who cane up with this—ought to be deeply ashamed of their cynicism.