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Was Anakin Skywalker a failure as a Jedi in the Prequels?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Master_Starwalker, Apr 9, 2006.

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  1. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    o_O [face_whistling]

    Be prepared for some **** to hit the fan...
     
  2. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is what we call trolling. Your post is $#%@.
     
  3. AnakinSucks

    AnakinSucks Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Then be a [whatever] and see to my banning.

    My arguments are unmatched.

    I like this site, but if you are going to take it that seriously...


     
  4. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How of any of this fact? It is all clearly your own opinion. You present no proof whatsoever. Anakin Skywalker was not a pathetic Jedi. He was a Galactic hero. Darth Vader was certainly not the worst of all time. He became quite powerful and played an important role in the Empire. Your post is CLEAR trolling.
     
  5. Rossa83

    Rossa83 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    IMHO Anakin was not a great Jedi, but he did great deeds.

    He saved the lives of many, including OBW a couple of times. He was integral in the hunt for the Sith, and was also responsible for taking out Dooku - quite a feature for such a young lad;)

    However, as for being a Jedi, he was not great. He lacked many of the aspects that would characterise him as a great Jedi. He had no patience. IMHO, his integrity was low. He often took the easy way out, as is why he entered the suit:D

    As for his part as a Sith - not very great was it.
    His greatest feature there was the destruction of the temple, hunting down remaining Jedi - although should we trust in Dark Lord, he would have been killed had he been faced with a real challenge. He wasn't second in command under Palpatine - the slimy dude in ANH seemed to outrank him. As a Sith, he was haunted by his own wasted potential and the knowledge that he could have been someone else! His intention was to do good, but somewhere along the line he lost himself - and I'm fairly certain he knew this as a Sith, and thus didn't become all he could be. The subconcious can be a powerful ally, but also a dangerous foe!:)
     
  6. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Vader and Anakin, enough. AnakinSucks was no more of a troll than you are LordVader. If you two have issues, deal with it in private or ignore each other. You both have that option.
     
  7. Green_Destiny_Sword

    Green_Destiny_Sword Force Ghost star 5

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    "Integral in the hunt for the Sith"?? He was a co-conspirator with the Sith. He was an accessory to Mace's murder in order to help a Sith Lord. He then pledged his loyalty to them. He helped "hunt" the Sith inasmuch as saying "Master, I found the Sith, they're in the coat room. Oh and by the way, I am joining them now. So..die."

    Here I agree. He was pretty lame as a Jedi. But let's not forget his homicidal slaughter of the Tuskens, which he never confessed to. Or his repeated blatant disrespect towards Obi Wan.

    Anakin was never "great" or a "good man." It's rather sad. I wish he had been a great Jedi at some point.
     
  8. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin was never "great" or a "good man." It's rather sad. I wish he had been a great Jedi at some point.


    I don't think that it was important for Anakin to become a "great" man. Nor do I believe that it was important for him to become a Jedi. To me, being a Jedi was nothing more than a profession. One does not have to be a Jedi to become one with the Force. What was important to me was he was once a good who lost his way. And before his death, he proved that he could be a good man, again.
     
  9. Jedi-Queen

    Jedi-Queen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Anakin was a lil more than flawed, he went on a murderous rampage at the temple
    which included children. Would you call a serial or child killer flawed?

    "Are you saying that serial or child killers are perfect? "

    I think an elementary kid would know sarcasm when they see/read it [face_whistling]
    No, they are not perfect. My comment was referring to how the word "flawed" does not
    seem appropriate enough.
    Maybe psychotic, evil etc etc..but flawed just seems insufficient :)

     
  10. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    JediQueen - [face_laugh]
     
  11. Rossa83

    Rossa83 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, he was integral in the hunt for the Sith as far as it goes. In TPM he played an important part in destroying a vital strategic plan for the Seperatists, or the Sith if you choose! He was the one, along with OBW, who hunted Dooku in AOTC. He killed Dooku in ROTS - and was regarded as a strong Jedi with great merits. However, as you said, he was responsible for Mace's death, and so on, and so on. But up until that point he did do some great deeds, but they weren't great enough, IMHO, to overshadow his flaws and his misdeeds!
     
  12. Jedi-Queen

    Jedi-Queen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "they weren't great enough, IMHO, to overshadow his flaws and his misdeeds! "

    Agreed! :)
     
  13. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Anakin was greatest Jedi that ever lived.

    ***

    [Slave Boy On Tattooine] "Now this... is called Trolling!" [/Slave Boy On Tattooine]
    :D
     
  14. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    [face_laugh]
     
  15. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    See, what did I tell ya? Am I right, or am I right? Ha [face_laugh]
     
  16. hero_of_canton

    hero_of_canton Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "you are a member of a rebell alliance and a traitor, take her away" =D
     
  17. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    LOL, hero.... [face_laugh]
     
  18. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "hero_of_canton, the Chancellor is evil!"
     
  19. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    AnakinSucks posted:
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    Not bothered reading this, though I will at some point.

    Anyhow, here are the FACTS. Nobody can dispute them.

    He failed as a Jedi. He was pathetic.

    As a Sith, he was probably the worst of all time.

    Anakin/Vader = Failure/disgrace to all.

    Case closed.



    Case closed? [Sigh] I hope and pray this is a joke.
     
  20. mountain_hare

    mountain_hare Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Anakin wiped out the Capitalist bigwigs (such as the Trade Federation), crushed a bigoted theocratic cult which indoctrinated children, supported slavery and took the law into its own hands (the Jedi), played an integral role in dissolving a stagnant and corrupt Republic, killed a whiny Padme, and then overthrew a dictator who got too big for his britches (Sidious).

    Sounds like a hero to me!
     
  21. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, when your name is AnakinSucks, there's just a smidgin of bias.
     
  22. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    Nah, Sinister, you don't think?[face_whistling]o_O

    *sarcasm*
     
  23. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I warned you about feeding the pigeons... er, smidgins... didn't I? ;)



     
  24. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    Those arguments sound reasonable to me.
     
  25. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They're leaving out that he watched a planet of mostly innocents get destroyed, slaughtered children, betrayed his wife, maimed his son, tortured his daughter, and supported(and to an extent helped establish) an oppressive dictatorship which enslaved/wiped out numerous races(though the enslavement/genocide is EU exclusive.)

    It's accurate, but it's from an incredibly biased perspective.
     
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