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CT Was that REALLY a reactor shaft Palpatine fell down in ROTJ?

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  1. BlackRanger

    BlackRanger Jedi Master star 3

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    Are there actually nuclear reactors in SW? I wasn't aware that that was a thing in "canon".
     
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  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Wacky Wednesday Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Some Star Wars reactors are portrayed as "nuclear fusion" or "artificial stars" - the term "solar ionization reactor" is often interpreted as "artificial star" by writers. The Death Star's is typically called a hypermatter reactor, but the hypermatter may simply be amplifying the fusion component of the reactor. Coaxium, for example, from Solo, is portrayed as a form of hypermatter that can boost engines to immense power.

    "Solar ionization reactor uses hypermatter to create a miniature star":


    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Solar_ionization_reactor

    "Hypermatter ionization reactor is elaboration of solar ionization reactor"


    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hypermatter_annihilation_reactor

    "Coaxium as a form of hypermatter that increases power of engines"


    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coaxium

    "Fusion reactors AKA fusion generators exist in Star Wars"


    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Fusion_generator
     
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  3. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not in the way we’d know it, but I’m sure they’ve got factories that harness whatever it is that fuels the ships.
     
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  4. BlueYogurt

    BlueYogurt Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought the Death Star 2's reactor was fueled by ewoks. I mean, they're cheap and abundant. Wasn't that the reason the empire built the DS in the Endor system?
     
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  5. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 6

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    Some relevant discussion from a while ago.

     
  6. YT-2400

    YT-2400 Jedi Master star 2

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    It's all subterfuge and misdirection.

    The explosive force seen rising up from the shaft was shock waves from Lando destroying the actual DS reactor. Palpatine fell down the shaft into the reactor core and landed atop the Falcon as it raced away from the destruction. Once out in space (and able to survive in the vacuum ala Leia), he let go and simply flew away into the chaos of the destruction of the DS and the attending battle to picked up by nearby allies and then departed for safety.

    Because Palps, if anything, had plans within plans within plans with all sorts of contingencies. :p
     
  7. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 6

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  8. Wu Wei Jedi

    Wu Wei Jedi Jedi Padawan star 2

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    The nerd is strong in you
     
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  9. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If he isn’t a nerd, he doesn’t belong here. :p Nerds and geeks only in this forum. xD
     
  10. Wu Wei Jedi

    Wu Wei Jedi Jedi Padawan star 2

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    He's the lord of the geeks.
    I won't call myself a nerd.I hate fantasy and sci-fi but i love Star Wars Lol.
     
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  11. JediMasterSven

    JediMasterSven Jedi Master star 2

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    Oh, see, I was under the impression the "reactor shaft" was just a euphemism for the Death Star's giant septic tank. It was a Tuesday after all, and as well all know every Tuesday on the Death Star is Taco Tuesdays....and Palps loves him some Taco Bell.
     
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  12. macrobinoculars

    macrobinoculars Jedi Youngling

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    The novelization describes it as "the vast, seemingly bottomless shaft to the power core" and "the black chasm leading to the power core". This is notable, since the novelization is a very straightforward adaptation of the script at some point just before filming.

    However, shooting script pages with rewrites dated Feb 2, 1982 describe Luke defeating Vader over "a vast elevator shaft", while other pages dated January 4, 1982 describe Vader throwing the Emperor down "the abyss at the central core of the Throne Room". Note that "central core" here does not refer to the DS as a whole - it just means it's in the middle of the room.

    That page also says "Finally when the body is far down the shaft, it explodes", implying that (for some reason) the Emperor doesn't even need to reach the bottom of the shaft to cause the "rush of air". He just...explodes? From bouncing off the sides of the shaft? It's very unclear.
     
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  13. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 7

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    IMO, Sheev exploded because he was using so much Dark Side to fuel his Force lightning that he got himself into a feedback loop and just kept zapping until he overloaded. It's like the Dark Side is a mean big brother saying "Stop zapping yourself! Stop zapping yourself!" In the end, it's nothing but a big bully, and bullies always get their comeuppance.
     
  14. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Skywalker Saga / WNU Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    It was either a shaft or the GFFA equivalent of Blazing Saddles "fourth wall" :p

     
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  15. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You are one of us. :D
     
  16. Clone Boi Crash

    Clone Boi Crash Jedi Youngling

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    If he did fall into the main reactor, just imagine piloting and X-Wing through it and seeing Palps falling to his death. I think the scene would be like this:
    "Look! It's the Emperor!" - X-Wing Pilot
    "EAAEAAAAAAAAA"
     
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  17. Clone Boi Crash

    Clone Boi Crash Jedi Youngling

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    Ok so since my internet went out the exact time I tried to post, it double posted, so I rewrote the duplicate explaining why (which is this one)
     
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  18. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, that happens sometimes, don't worry about it.
     
  19. Sith Lord 2015

    Sith Lord 2015 Jedi Master star 4

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    At least in the movie it's not said directly what that shaft is, and where it leads to. But I agree with those arguments that he couldn't have fallen all the way straight to the core in such a short time.
    That said, I wouldn't take anything in TROS as an explanation. It simply isn't consistent enough with the Lucas trilogies. Come on, let's face it, we have all seen the DSII destroyed, completely obliterated, atomized, whatever, in ROTJ. There is simply no way such a huge piece of it could have survived intact and then landed on another moon. I am certainly able to suspend disbelief to a certain point. But THIS is just taking things too far. :rolleyes:
     
  20. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    Is the Pope Catholic? Is the sky blue? Is water clear? :p
     
  21. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, it's a reactor shaft. I don't know if we know exactly where it leads to.
     
  22. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    Dude fell all the way to Exegol.
     
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  23. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Skywalker Saga / WNU Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Occam's razor / principle of parsimony. Locking Thread.
     
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