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  1. sethg

    sethg Manager Emeritus star 2 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Watto was one of my favorite characters from the PT. He'd be a neat cameo addition to 7.
     
  2. markdeez

    markdeez Jedi Master star 3

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    I think Watto would be dead by the time of Ep. 7, but if he's somehow alive, sure why not??
     
  3. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Watto had clearly aged significantly between TPM and AOTC - I doubt he would have held on for the next 50ish years.
     
  4. Six

    Six Jedi Knight star 4

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    I did not expect this thread to get such a warm response... Is Watto really this beloved of a character or are you all just pulling my leg?
     
  5. Merric

    Merric Jedi Master star 3

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    I would love Watto to appear in EP7. Personally he was actually one of my favorite side characters in the entire Star Wars saga. It seems like it wouldn't be that out of place to see him either. If he did appear I assume it would just be a background cameo, but if they actually go all out and give him dialogue, it would definitely be interesting to see what they do with him. Probably something where our heroes need an object and Watto responds with something of the sort. "Oh. Your related to Anakin Skywalker. I remember that kid! Come on! I'll give you something for f- er... half off."
     
  6. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    Yes - I'd definitely like to see Watto return... even if only a cameo.
     
  7. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah a nice cameo would be great.....
     
  8. Summers1913

    Summers1913 Jedi Knight star 3

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    He looked like he aged a lot between episode 1 & 2 though.


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  9. gezvader28

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    Watto was one of the few characters I liked in the prequels .


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  10. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Watto went from this
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    in the 10 years between TPM and AOTC. ~56 years pass between AOTC and Episode VII. If Watto's in Episode VII, he'll be seen very briefly in the background - a speaking role of any kind just won't make sense with the timing.

    Toydarians have a lifespan of ~91 years for what it's worth. He's clearly already getting up there in years in AOTC - I think it's safe to say he doesn't have another 56 years in him at that point.
     
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  11. TheBBP

    TheBBP Force Ghost star 6

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    I think that what makes Watto stand out is that he was believable and that he was expertly played by his voice actor. The voice fit his look and mannerisms.
     
  12. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    That is now legends.
     
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  13. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fair, but even without that bit of info I don't see how they can age Watto significantly over 10 years from TPM to AOTC but then have him still floating around on Tatooine nearly six decades later.
     
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  14. jaqen

    jaqen Chosen One star 5

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    I liked Watto a lot, but after the racial/ethnic controversy over him, Jar Jar, and the Neimoidians, I really don't expect for JJ or Disney to touch him with a ten foot pole.


    Can't speak for anyone else, but I like a lot of the PT peripheral and side characters as much as the OT ones.
     
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  15. jaqen

    jaqen Chosen One star 5

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    I think some of you are taking this a bit literally. I mean Yoda is aged a ton between TMP and AOTCs too, and he was already old as dirt and still lasted decades. Hell Luke and Leia age significantly between TESB and ROTJ, neither looking early 20s at all in Jedi. These things aren't to be taken so literally.

    If Watto was important enough to show, they could make Toydarians last 200 years and say Watto was in his 100s during the PT. Nobody else but severe diehards are ever going to go "How is that possible, he aged soooo much between TPM and AOTC!!!!". Who cares?
     
  16. darth_mccartney

    darth_mccartney Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd reeeeally love to see Watto, even if its just a glimpse. Looking really old and fudged up in some sort of Yoda-esque hover chair cos his wings have died a death and don't work anymore!

    Watto is such a great character :)
     
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  17. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In which AOTC scenes does Yoda appear to have aged a ton since TPM? I'd actually argue Yoda seems more vibrant in AOTC than he did in TPM (and that's excluding the lightsaber duel with Dooku).

    And you're right, he was already quite old. Watto wasn't "old as dirt" in TPM, but appeared to be well on his way there in AOTC. That's my whole point. For a species to age that much in 10 years but then linger on for another six decades is illogical.

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    I think you underestimate the ability of moviegoers outside of the severe diehards to keep track of characters across films. At the end of the day, no, it's not a big deal if Watto's in the movie and they say "oh yeah, that species totally lives to be hundreds of years." My whole point was that doing so directly contradicts what we've seen from Watto in the films so far, and more people than just the diehards will notice that.
     
  18. Palpatine77

    Palpatine77 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Very good point about Watto's physical change from TPM to AOTC, DarthWilliams. But I think the idea was not to show how much Watto has aged in those ten years, so much as how much those ten years have aged Watto. He stopped shaving as often, for one thing. ha ha

    Watto was a fairly successful scrap-dealer business-owner in TPM. Not rich or anything, but a fairly successful business owner. The fact that he had in his possession the only Naboo-class J-327 part in his shop in all of Mos Espa says something. Qui-Gonn appealed to his gambling nature, however, and as a result Watto lost almost everything on that one bet against Anakin during the Pod Race. 10 years later, we see the result of Watto's losses: he doesn't have slaves and droids to do his bidding, he now has to do almost everything himself, and Watto is a lot more grizzled, he spends more of his hours outside in the unforgiving Tattooine sun doing menial labor to keep his business running. Watto is probably the realization of Indiana Jones' comment.... "It's not the years, hon, it's the mileage."

    It would be possible to see Watto, as an old man, in a cameo in Episode 7. If he struggled to keep his business running in the post Empire-years or built his business back up as the Outer Rim became more Hutt-controlled remains to be seen..... Watto is one of my favorite Prequel characters, I would love a little cameo if it could be worked in organically.
     
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  19. jaqen

    jaqen Chosen One star 5

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    The Yoda puppet looks younger to me than the Yoda CGI model. Always has. Both look much younger than the OT puppet, which technically wouldn't be the case for a being close to a 1000 years when we first meet him in Episode I.

    Either way, doesn't matter. Who cares? That's not any kind of major hinderance and most wouldn't even note it.



    I've seen older human beings in real life age rapidly in the matter of a few years and still go on to live decades. This is such a non-issue. I actually think arguing about some fictional species in the GFFA not being able to return 50 years later because he visually aged in an earlier sequel to be a pretty illogical argument in and of itself.



    Yes, Mark and Carrie both aged significantly between the shooting of Empire and Jedi. Hell if you go back and look at reviews from Return of the Jedi's first run, even several critics noted it. Both had lost their fresh, youthful look present in Empire, and neither could pass for 23 years old (even though Carrie was around that age in real life during shooting) in Jedi. And certainly neither character looked like it had been a year, or less, since the end of Empire.
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  20. Palpatine2016

    Palpatine2016 Jedi Master star 4

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    To me he doesn't look any older in AotC, just has that extra scruff...
     
  21. acroyear7

    acroyear7 Jedi Master star 3

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    I have nothing against Watto. But I'd rather not have him in it. It just makes the Star Wars universe seem small.
     
  22. Palpatine's P.A.

    Palpatine's P.A. Jedi Knight star 2

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    Watto was looking pretty decrepit in AOTC, dunno if the poor guy had another 53 years in him
     
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  23. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    I'd like to catch up with Watto. Always felt he was by far a superior CGI character to Jar Jar in TPM.

    If Jar Jar hadn't been in the movie and they'd billed Watto as the breakthrough CGI character I think they would saved themselves a lot of grief.

    I don't know if he does age that much between TPM and AOTC. I think the idea was really that by AOTC he is down on his luck and has fallen on hard times (the reason he sold Shmi I assume?) hence his seemingly decrepit appearance. Maybe by Episode VII he could have gone up in the world and found money, LOL? [face_money_eyes]
     
  24. D'an

    D'an Jedi Master star 4

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    Mos Espa isn't that big of a town. There is strong evidence to support we'll at least be on the same planet.
     
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  25. Scot Pagel

    Scot Pagel Jedi Youngling

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    Yes, he was somewhat dashing in PM but in AOTC he had flies around him and was like you said decrepit. Maybe we will see another Toydarians.
     
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