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Discussion in 'Archive: FF:UK - Wales' started by Welshguy, Nov 27, 2005.

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  1. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    That's funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing!

    He does seem to be in a very "rugby" pose and it would suit the three feathers motif a lot more if he was holding a rugby ball.

    Guess we'll have to put that one on the list also.


    Edit Just noticed TimBolton, the Welsh Dragon is pointing the wrong way. I know it makes more sense to kind of have him poining towards the forum, but the National Flag should always be represented in its intended format. Funnily enough, I had exactly the same issue with Jairen when he was designing the Welsh FFUK name tags. Guess it must be some kind of thinly vailed Englsih insult, much like hanging a cross unside down. ;)

    Where is Jairen anyway? Haven't seen or heard from him in ages?
     
  2. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Back ;)
    I'll work on it tonight after dinner, and through the weekend (or as long as it takes me).

    :p and ;) @ Jase

    Darkness on Watto - I noticed it too, in PhotoShop the pics is quite bright, only when the image is saved as a jpeg for the web does it become dark, I'll sort it out.
    Welsh flag with "Croeso" - coming up :D
    Stadium - yeah, it's flipped and actually a different pic (Just before you posted the original I found the one I used, seemed a little sharper so I went with that.
    Clone trooper - with the limited banner room, I'l try and see where to fit it on the main top banner (we have the side and the background banner for space too note). It's a great pic btw, nicely done :cool: Is a rugger ball needed too?
    Tom and Tony - that pic is great!!! :D I am thinking of shifting Watto to the right side (back to the Welsh Jedi and facing left), and sticking Tom and Tony where Watto was, I'll mess around with the composition and see what looks ok.
    Welsh dragon - well, if I had used the three lions of England in a English banner, I would not have given a second thought to turning them round (if there was a need), so no offense was implied, but sorry dude about that - like you said it was just a design thing of having the dragon lead the viewer (by looking right) into the webpage and content rather than leading them left away from the main content. I was still ooming and arrring over whether that bit was to be the flag and not just the dragon itself ;)
    It's important for you to be 100% happy with banner (so we'll do this till you are - and I'll post regular updates with pics to where I am up to), so I'll turn him the correct way ;) :D

    Is everyone happy with the sheep going up to the clone ship? With limited space, I am keeping any eye on what may need to be chopped ie my stuff since your stuff that you suggest is more important.

    I'll post later when I have some more to show :D
    Thanks for all the kind words and support on this, tis appreciated, and just glad to help ;)
     
  3. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Hope everyone is having a good weekend :D
    Bit behind schedule, was tired yesterday so I didn't do much, but here is the "completed" top part of the banner, on your approval. The cool red Clone trooper will now replace the Welsh dragon on the bottom left where the sheep enter the banner. Am carrying on now until I finish or something needs changing ;)

    Got Catherine in there for you Welshguy :D With a Slave Leia bikini! Was a lucky find for such a pic of Catherine lol :p

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_wales_banner_top_05.jpg]

    Edit: Just noticed the bottom right of the stadium is lighter for some reason, will sort that out ;)

     
  4. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Looking pretty frickin' sweet there dude.

    That pic of Catherine really takes the banner to the next level.

    A applaude you for your artistic vision and poise. :)

    I can't really fault the banner thus far, Wotto looks a lot better and you mentioned the stadium light issue, so it will be interesting to see what that looks like fixed.

    Can't wait to see the rest of the banner.

    So what's left to go on now apart from the Red Clone Trooper?
     
  5. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Lol, update coming right at ya ;) :p

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_wales_banner_01.jpg]

    This is the complete main banner, curve, and side banner.
    Everything needing fixed has been, tho I keep looking to just below right of the Falcon / Left of TheForce.Net and thinking there could be something small put in there, if you so wish - I have covered all the main national symbols: Dragon, Leek, Daffodil, Three feathers - now I know where it is from lol :oops:

    I may change the "TheForce.Net" font to the same as "Croeso"

    Now for what's left -

    Background banner (goes to the right of the top banner) - this is the same size as the top one. I plan to have the speederbikes on Snowdon, the sign with the longest name of a Welsh village, maybe a pic of Anglesey from the air if I can find one and a few other things.

    If you look at what I did for the "FFUK: North" here - [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_north_backgrd.jpg] - I kept it more basic and a little more flowing as this part of the top area of the whole banner maybe be hidden depending upon your screen size - its not as essential.

    I'll start work on this now, I am hoping to get it done after tea, hopefully before Egypt comes on :p

    After that, there are two small banners which can go either side of the advert that appears, and also a banner that appears when you make a post. These are non-essential, but I will do them so that you maintain your Welsh identity on all possible banners ;)

    Be back soon :D :cool:

     
  6. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Really starting to come along now dude. Won't be long.

    I was thinking that maybe we could stick a little Welsh map pic in there somewhere.

    Something like this:

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/Walesmap.gif]

    And if there's room, maybe something to recall the mining indistry.

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/towercolliery.jpg]

    You may also want to redo the Clone Trooper. It was just something I knocked together in a couple of minutes. So if you think you can get it looking a bit better, then by all means please do so.
     
  7. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'll have a dabble with the Clone trooper tomorrow, been looking at it all day and I am sure it has just started to dance :p Look it fresh after work. To be honest, your version was fine IMHO, I didn't feel the need to alter.

    Anyways, I have got somewhere on the part of the banner that goes to the right of the main top one. Depending upon your screen size this can be partly or, if you have a monitor the size of my hand, fully hidden.

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_wales_banner_02.jpg]

    Still needs a few background pics, I may add a few SW ships/vehicles in there, but that's how far I am now (a little less than I wanted, but there were a few things I needed to do this evening away from the comp :p )

    Be back after to work tomorrow to continue this :D
    Keep the suggestions coming in ;)
     
  8. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok, some suggestions.

    Maybe we should change the scout bike to a snow speeder? It would look much more at home on the snowy mountain backdrop than a scout bike would.

    And since we already have a pic of the Millennium stadium in there, perhaps something else could replace it.

    Thinking.....

    Maybe something like Castle Coch

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/Castell-Coch-aerial.jpg]

    Or Caerphilly Castle

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/caerphillycastle1.jpg]

    Or maybe a person, such as Dylan Thomas

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/thomaspic-web.gif]

    Or maybe the flag of St David

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/stdavidsflag.gif]

    Or maybe something from the North, like Harlech Castle

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/harlech01.jpg]

    Loved the Ewok by the way. ;)
     
  9. Rhys

    Rhys Jedi Master star 4

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    Chepstow Castle has a huge cliff to river drop off, which could be useful
     
  10. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I've altered it with some of the pics you recommended, I am not 100% sure about it, have a look and see what you think - anything need adding /removing?

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_wales_banner_03.jpg]

    Remember this part will not necessarily appear on the screen, at work the monitor is set to 800 X 600 I think - only the first banner (top left) appears.
     
  11. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Love the Dylan Thomas/Holocron pic, very clever.

    And the snow speeder on Snowdon looks kick ass! It really works a lot better.

    I was just wondering if Caerphilly Castle should be there? I don't think two castles next to each other really works? By the way, what is that pic you've put on Harlech Castle? I can't make it out?

    So what could we put instead of Caerphilly castle?

    Meditate on this I will.

    Apart from that, it looks great mate.

    One other minor point I wanted to raise, but forgot was regarding the leek on the left of the banner. Would it be possible to extend the lightsaber blade a little, so it looks like its coming directly from the leek? As it it now, there is a gap between the leek and the blade.

    Cheers dude. You might get honory Welsh status for this.

    Now, what can we have instead of Caerphilly caslte?
     
  12. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Heh, sorry about that Welshguy, I had actually "fixed" it a while ago (it's a layer shadow on the leek), I just needed to move layers, and hadn't posted the updated version. I am thinking of trying a blue lense flare at the point where the lightsaber meets the leek, I'll post if it looks any good ;)
    Here is the full page taken straight from PS (remember the banner in the middle of nowhere goes to the top right - just saving space in PS) -

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/version_wales.jpg]

    I agree, Caerphilly is sorta out of place, we need something about the same length. Have a think, I'll keep checking and as soon as you post, I'll work on it. I'll have a think too.

    Edit: over Harlech is the speeder bike lmao, I can get rid if you want or make it bigger (just like that one hehe) :p

    After this we only have the "Reply image" (appears straight after you post with the thank you message - not every FF has a different one for this) which is 437 pixels by 88, and two small pictures (74 X 58 pixels) on either side of the adverts the JC put on each board.
     
  13. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Hows about one of the greatest Welsh heroes of all time?

    Owain Glyndwr.

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/Owain.jpg]
     
  14. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, no probs :D - the pic is taller than wide, maybe problematic in fitting him in, and will mean we still need more stuff, I'll check for other pics while using the one above.
     
  15. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Ahh right, I can just about make it out now. It's really hard to see on that background. So yeah, it might be a good idea to make it a little bigger.

    Ok, more pics. How about the main men?

    Richard Burton.

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/180px-RichardBurton.jpg]

    And Stanley Baker.

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/StanleyBaker.jpg]
     
  16. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Ohhh! I got one. A really good one too!

    What about the dark night himself, BATMAN/aka Christian Bale.

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/chris_bale_batman.jpg]


    Another one I just thought of.

    John Rees Davies, better known as Gimili!

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/Gimli_photo.jpg]
     
  17. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    LOL!
    Now you got a few, well I say we can put those in the "reply" banner - its 437 pixels long, so we should fit quite a few in there. Sound ok?

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_wales_banner_04.jpg]

    ^ If this version is ok (without any more people over the top / behind) then we need just one background pic to go behind Wicket (and then I'd say its complete) - if there a Welsh forest that is recognisable via some feature? Cos a forest would fit well behind.

    I can try and put Richard Burton and Stanley Baker in Imperial cossies (or Rebel if you prefer). I can get John Rees Davies in as something too - do you want Batman actually in there, or the actor who plays him?

    Edit: Speederbike is out at the mo, trying to get it to fit as bigger.
    And I am ok with the Red Clone in the left banner, are you? Maybe sharpening a little, but I kinda like it.
     
  18. Rhys

    Rhys Jedi Master star 4

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    Hey, i never knew Christian Bale was Welsh. Could put an equilibrium picture of him, cos that was cool.
     
  19. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If I can find a better quality pic of this [image=http://www.burningmax.com/Reviews/equilibrium.jpg] Rhys, then I can add lightsabers :D

    Google scouting now ;)
     
  20. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, Christian Bale was born in Haverford West!

    An idea might be to get all the Welsh actors I listed and make them all up to be Imperial oficers in the reply banner.

    That would look pretty sweet!

    Ok, going to look for a background pic now.

    How about one of these?

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/mountain.jpg]

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/moutanin2.jpg]

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/valley300245.jpg]
     
  21. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    I hate to do this to you dude, but is there any chance you can change the Harlech Castle pic?

    I've been looking at it and i'm not really happy with the angle and limited amount of the castle on display.

    Any chance you could put this one in instead?

    I know it looks very similar, but it shows quite a bit more of the castle and is far more visually impressive.

    Cheers dude.

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Welshguy/har.jpg]
     
  22. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No :p
    ... I mean yes lmao ;)
    No problem at all, it's all in different layers, so altering ain't a prob. I will use the bottom pic I think, of the Welsh valley, see if that fits ok to go next to Harlech :D

    It's getting late, so I may attempt that and then call it a night I think, I'll post where I am up to before I shut down the comp, and get back to it after work.

    If it's ok, I'll use the pic I showed you of Bale (with added lightsabers), along with the other people in Imperial cossie, I can add the Batman Bale too, maybe with Vader Batman and Vader kinda look a good couple ;) ) - I am going to put a Death Star background, so we don't need to worry about backgrounds for the reply banner.

    I'll post the pic before 1am, and see ya tomorrow, for maybe the final day of banner making :D
     
  23. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Think PS killed my internet connection, everything went down when PS was going slow.

    [image=http://www.timbolton.freeserve.co.uk/forum_pics/ffuk_wales_banner_05.jpg]

    That's your altered top right banner, and I have made a "tiny" start on the "Reply banner". Just a mock idea, but you get the size of the thing - it's small :(

    Anyways, cya tomorrow, I need sleep lol
     
  24. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    So whats the situation with the banner?

    Looks like things went dead for a couple of days, but i'm back now.

    So, yeah, banner.

    ROCK AND ROLL!
     
  25. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Lol, yeah, was getting worried about you :p
    Wednesdays are usually my big TV watch day, the whole 3 hours worth, and been busy tonite. I'll carry on tomorrow ;) I'll report back then when I have more :D
     
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