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What are the Rogue's designations? .. and another question

Discussion in 'Literature' started by DjFoNiX, Dec 5, 2002.

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  1. DjFoNiX

    DjFoNiX Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm almost done with Rogue Squadron, and it's very hard to decipher who the characters are talking to when they're talking about Rogue Five or Rogue Three, or whatever number it is.. all I know is that Corran's is 'Rogue Nine'.. What are the rest of the Rogues during the Rogue Squadron series? At least, among these..?
    Tycho Celchu:
    Ooryl Qrygg:
    Nawara Ven:
    Rhysati Ynr:
    Bror Jace:
    Erisi Dlarit:
    Gavin Darklighter:
    And, one other question.. when they refer to 'Three Flight' among their squadron.. HUH??!!

    -Thanks
    DjFoNiX
     
  2. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Tycho Celchu: Rogue Null
    Ooryl Qrygg: Rogue Ten

    When they refer to flights, their refering to a thrid of the squadron. Each fighter squadron is made up of twelve fighters and pilots. This is then broken down into the three flights, four fighters and pilots each. It's futher broken down into wingmates or pairs. Ooryl is Corran's as you already know. Corran leads Three Flight.
     
  3. DjFoNiX

    DjFoNiX Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Rogue Null?
     
  4. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yep. Technically, Tycho makes 13 members of the squadron. But because of his situation, that is, being believed a spy, he's not allowed to take a more active role in the squadron than the one he's got. His designation might as well be Rogue Zero. Note he flies a Headhunter with weapons powered down and that once the squadron leaves for active duty he flies an unarmed shuttle. But in combat he's not an active member of the squadron.
     
  5. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    Plus, the Rogue's call signs differ from series to series (and sometimes book to book)

    If i recall correctly, the line-up for X-wing Book 1 is

    First Flight
    Leader : Wedge Antilles
    Two (AKA Deuce) : the Bothan guy
    Three : Bror Jace
    Four : Nawara Ven

    Second Flight
    Five : Gavin Darklighter
    Six : Riv Shiel
    Seven : Rhysati Ynr
    Eight : Erisi Dlarit

    Third Flight
    Nine : Corran Horn
    Ten : Ooryl Qrygg
    Eleven : Lujayne Forge
    Twelve : Andoorni Hui

    Executive Officer (non-combatant)
    Null : Tycho Celchu
    Tycho isn't an active fighter pilot, he's more like mission control and sometimes unarmed rescue.
     
  6. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Technically, their not callsigns. Their comm-designators. Callsigns don't change like that.
     
  7. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, i can just imagine the Rogues (or more likely the Wraiths ;) ) calling Wedge "Scarecrow" and maybe Tycho as "Red Rabbit" :p

     
  8. DjFoNiX

    DjFoNiX Jedi Youngling star 1

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    heh.. thanks. It sure does get confusing when I can't remember who everyone is in the middle of a battle such as Blackmoon. Thanks!

    -DjFoNiX
     
  9. Jai

    Jai Jedi Youngling star 1

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    weird i didn't have ne problems like that... ( i read rs for the first time about 2 weeks ago... )

    It does explain the whole thing in a fair amount of detail in the book... maybe you need to pay attention to what you are reading...?
     
  10. JediHobbit

    JediHobbit Jedi Master star 5

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    No, it can get a little confusing at times. Especially in the Wraith books when they do it a lot more.

    Which is why I'm thankful Mr. Allston added their comm-designations to the dramatis personae. :)
     
  11. Jedi_Horn_888

    Jedi_Horn_888 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Because he Rogues die a lot, new pilots are constantly filling the ranks. By Isard's Revenge, these are their numbers:

    General Wedge Antilles: One/Leader
    Colonel Tycho Celchu: Two
    Flight Officer Lyyr Zatoq: Three
    Major Derek "Hobbie" Klivian: Four
    Major Wes Janson: Five
    Captain Gavin Darklighter: Six
    Lieutenant Myn Donos: Seven
    Lieutenant Khe-Jeen Slee: Eight
    Captain Corran Horn: Nine
    Lieutenant Ooryl Qyrgg: Ten
    Lieutenant Asyr Sei'lar: Eleven
    Flight Officer Inyri Forge: Twelve.

    When Corran refers to Three Flight, he means the third of the squadron under his command. Rogue Squadron is overall led by Rogue Leader, and is split into 3 flights of 4 pilots, One flight, Two flight, and Three Flight. Generally Rogue Leader leads One Flight, Rogue Five leads Two Flight, and Rogue Nine leads Three Flight.
     
  12. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    I should probably start a new thread for this, but as long as we've got all the Rogue Squadron experts in one place, I thought I'd ask. Is there anything you would change/add to this bit about the formation of Rogue Squadron? (it's from my website):

    While Han and the Falcon were racing Goot across the galaxy, a group called Rogue Squadron was taking shape. Formed out of the ashes of Red Squadron and under the capable leadership of Commander Narra, the initial group included Wes Janson and the two remaining members of Red Squadron, Wedge Antillies and Luke Skywalker. Skywalker, fully recovered from his bout with Bledsoe?s, finally accepted a commission in the Alliance when he joined the Squadron.

    In spite of the severe lack of fighters, Rogue Squadron was soon put into action. The Imperial spy that had ruined Governor Zissu?s mission had apparently tipped the Emperor off to the location of the base where the Rebels hid their supplies. The Emperor promptly dispatched a Star Destroyer to wipe out the base, but Luke and the Rogues managed to destroy the ship.

    TC
     
  13. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    What about Hobbie ? I could almost swear that he's in the Rogue Squadron computer game and that he was there from the start.
     
  14. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Flights just divide a fighter squadron into four groups of pilots.

    One Flight: 1-4
    Two Flight: 5-8
    Three Flight: 9-12

    As for which Rogue pilots are which Rogue number, that changes with each of the X-wing Quadrilogy books. Why Michael did that is a mystery and has no apparent reason. Apart from Wedge (One), Corran (Nine) and Ooryl (Ten), every other pilot changes their number.

    Very annoying. Does anyone know why?
     
  15. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    A callsign is a military tag name. Zhan's Conquerors' Trilogy has that as pilot/character names.

    For example, rather than Rogue Five, you would just have a name, like Headhawk, or anything the pilot chooses.

    Many Earthian navies and airforces practices this, so your real name is not known over radio waves and compromises your identity.
     
  16. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    *whistles and points to prior post*

    Yes, i can just imagine the Rogues (or more likely the Wraiths ) calling Wedge
    "Scarecrow" and maybe Tycho as "Red Rabbit"
     
  17. Jedi_Loon

    Jedi_Loon Jedi Knight star 5

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    just an offtopic thought...I was playing x-wing alliance to c if there were any callsigns on there (there weren't)....on the proving grounds ranking board the've got corran horn and so on....thats a nice little salute to the books :)
     
  18. The_Ultimate_Fett

    The_Ultimate_Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Rankings as of Isard's Revenge

    Rogue Leader: General Wedge Antilles
    Rogue 2: Colnel Tycho Celchu
    Rogue 3: Liutenant Lyyr Zatoq
    Rogue 4: Major Hobbie Klivian
    Rogue 5: Major Wes Janson
    Rogue 6: Captain Gavin Darklighter
    Rogue 7: Captain Myn Donos
    Rogue 8: Liutenant Khe-Jeen Slee
    Rogue 9: Captain Corran Horn
    Rogue 10: Captain Ooryl Qyrgg
    Rogue 11: Captain Asyr Sei'lar
    Rogue 12: Liutenant Inyiri Forge

    This includes the recent promotions

    ((Edit: Sorry I didn't see a post exactly like this earlier))
     
  19. JEDI_KARRDE

    JEDI_KARRDE Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The Rogue Squadron books are probly the best series of star wars books writen so far. I wish they would make more. like what the rogues were doing during the Thrawn Crisis....
     
  20. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    >What about Hobbie ? I could almost swear that he's in the Rogue Squadron computer game and >that he was there from the start.

    I'll look him up, but I haven't been able to find anything that suggests that he was on of the founding members. I know that Tycho Celchu shows up after the first Yavin evacuation.

    TC
     
  21. DaJames

    DaJames Jedi Master star 4

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    Why, oh why did i remove RS from my computer to make space ? :(

    My memory keeps nagging at me about that Hobbie thing. However, i do know that Zev Senesca and Dack Ralter were not in it at the start.
     
  22. Kast_Morben

    Kast_Morben Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hobbie IS in the RS Game, definitely in the N64 version at least. TimeTales summary has himm listed as joining at the time of Empire Strikes Back though, which is where confusion may arise.

    The combatants to begin with are

    Luke Skywalker
    Wedge Antilles
    Zev Senesca
    Hobbie Klivian
    Wes Janson
    (Kasan Moor)
    A few more unnamed guys

    And one I obviously can't remember!
     
  23. Kast_Morben

    Kast_Morben Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Maybe I should read the thread before posting, tha answer was in the post above.

    The missing answer being of course Dack Ralter.
     
  24. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    Yeah. The thing is though, Rogue Squadron was founded several months before the game starts, and I can't be sure that the folks at the beginning of the game were all founding members.

    TC
     
  25. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I've earned gold on all 18 N64 Rogue Squadron missions, the three hidden included. I admit that's preening, and looking in the mirror, it's a great reflection.

    Anyway . . . what I don't understand is how you can fly the N-1 Naboo starfighter by inputing the appropriate cheat code, when the movie released in 1999. I'm sure the game came out in 1998.

    What the---?
     
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