What? Ben is Owen's brother?

I know this has been discussed millions of times before, especially when relating to the very skeptical and unreliable novelization of ROTJ, BUT, I have found another source that confirms this and is not something relating to the EU, but rather directly towards the film.

In, Star Wars: The Annotated Screenplays, George Lucas states that during script meetings for ROTJ, they had decided that Owen WAS IN FACT Ben's brother!

What the hell!

Another reason why the OT does not fit in with the PT.

 

What we see on film is ultimately what matters,and in no existing Star Wars film does anyone say that Ben and Owen are brothers.

 

Nope

The OS confirmed that they are not brothers.

 

Another reason why the OT does not fit in with the PT.

How so? The idea of Owen and Ben being brothers was not mentioned in the ROTJ film. If it was an idea in the annotated screenplays, that's all it ended up being. There's lots of abandoned ideas for any movie. Besides, AOTC takes precedence over the ROTJ novel.

 

They are not brothers by blood or marriage, but they can be brothers in other ways.

 

You mean like lodge brothers? They could both be members of the same fraternal organization,like the Loyal Order of Banthas.

 

I love it! Ben and Owen were both in the same frat.

 

Yeah, Obi-Wan and Owen decided it was time to go to college while they were on Tatooine... they were in the same frat, and Obi-Wan used a mind trick on Owen to get him to ask out some ugly girl... that's why Owen doens't like Obi-Wan anymore.

 

Post that in 3SA and some newbies will think you're an Episode 3 insider.

 

Personally, I wish Lucas would have stuck with Owen being Ben's brother rather than Anakin's step-brother. I think it would have made more sense because, if Vader and the Emperor are looking for Luke, wouldn't they possibly check with Anakin's family?

-sj loves kevin spacey

 

Just to add that this has been discussed here.

Pretty nifty arguement in the middle

 

They're only brothers in the novelisation.

Remember that the novelisations are not EXACTLY the same as the films. Some events occur slightly differently, extra dialogue appears in one but not the other etc. etc. (I've heard that Yoda is blue in the ESB novelisation.)
They can be considered to be in parallel, but very similar universes.

So in the universe that the novelisation takes place in, Ben and Owen are black.

 

And what's with everyone calling Anakin 'Skywalker'?
He's very obviously 'Starkiller'. Just another way Lucas is messing everything up
And why don't the snowspeeders match those in the productioin paintings?
And don't get me started on Vader!
Sarcasm aside, you cannot possibly consider abandoned ideas canon.
As far as the novels go, I could be wrong, but I think SW is the only franchise that possibly has these problems.
Other movies have novelizations of them, people read them, and that's that.
With SW it's 'well see it's a paralell universe unless it doesn't blatantly contradict anything whereupon in section C of the canon treaty, it means that it is in fact 'just-off-screen' canon, unless contradicted by another later EU novel, which in point you alter what is aid previously to fit in with what was said later.'
Yeah... ummm... I'll just read 'em for what they are, thanks

 

Why is this an inconsistency anyway? The prequels never state that Obi-Wan and Owen are NOT brothers. They never say who Obi-Wan's biological family is. So it is still a possibility.

 

>>>It would depend on at what point they were abandoned, wouldn't it? In this case, by all accounts, it was an idea that Lucas stuck to for 10+ years after ROTJ came out, and was only originally cut for pacing issues.

No- in this case, by all accounts, it was an idea that Lucas came up with in story meetings for ROTJ, and abandoned by the time the film was finished, for whatever reason. I don't believe that there's any evidence that it was even filmed, let alone "only cut for pacing issues."

(Please correct me if I'm wrong though...)

 

There is no need to put Owen and OB1 as brothers in the OT it has no real bearing on the story direction, it is more an issue for the PT IMO.

 

It doesn't matter how long it took for Lucas to abandon the idea. The fact remains that it has been blown out of the water by what we saw in AOTC. The idea of Ben and Owen being brothers is now dead and might as well have never existed, as far as the movies are concerned.

 

I'm sure it will just be left a mystery. Episode 3 will not state that they are brothers, nor will it state that they are not brothers. This way, everybody is happy. The people who want to believe they are brothers still can, and the people who don't want them to be can believe that too.

 

So if nobody in Ep 3 says that Owen and Ben are not brothers, will you assume they are?

If yes, is that because of the ROTJ book?
or because of the old ideas (in screenplay drafts or deleted scenes) that never made it into the final film?

 

The films are not the only source. Everything, except Infinities, counts.

 

I never said they were the only source.

But do you think Owen and Ben's "brotherhood" is a legitimate relationship or simply a discarded idea?