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What caused Anakin to *stop* burning?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by BuriedAlien, Jul 12, 2005.

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  1. MR_YODA_

    MR_YODA_ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That is proabably the funniest thing I have heard all day.

    I think that one of the droids put the fire out, doesn't it say something about it in the novel?
     
  2. Darth_Expedite

    Darth_Expedite Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Perhaps someone on Mustafar who said "they wouldn't piss on him even if he were on fire," had a change of heart. :p
     
  3. Dirty-Darth

    Dirty-Darth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    metal isn't imflammable, it melts


    True, but it couldn't have been hot enough to melt the metal, because if it was that hot then his body would have burned up as well.
     
  4. ObiJuanQuito

    ObiJuanQuito Jedi Youngling star 5

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    STOP DROP AND ROLL
    STOP DROP AND ROLL



    [face_laugh]
     
  5. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    Okay-

    Imagine a campfire-in order to keep the fire going, you have to have oxygen-AND SOMETHING to keep it going-in the case of a campfire, kindling. With Anakin, he was just laying there, and the ignited ash and stone caught his clothes and leg, which spread to his body-but he was just lying there, and there was nothing there to KEEP the fire going. Imagine you light a match. You know how when it's burning, and you just hold it and watch it, and it eventually just goes OUT about halfway thru? It's the SAME idea with Anakin. If you put a log on the ground-the bare, unprepared ground-and light a fire to the edge of it, it WILL CATCH, but it WONT burn the WHOLE thing there to ash. It'll just eventually go out. Anakin is the same theory. Eventually the fire went out, since it had nothing to fuel it, after it burned his robes, and there was then nothing to keep it going strong-it spread too far inbetween, and eventually died out. It makes perfect sense to me, but then again, I've had training in fire-building, and camping stuff like that.

    As for the need for the breathing machine, that main theory should indeed be right on-there's no other way to xplain it other than the fact that while he was burning, he inhaled burning ashes during all of it, and the burning ashes burned his lungs-to a point where he could no longer depend on his OWN respiratory system to sustain him...
     
  6. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Someone off-screen got a hose and sprayed Anakin down until he quit burning.
     
  7. All_Powerful_Jedi

    All_Powerful_Jedi Force Ghost star 4

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    All of the combustible material had burned, leaving melted and charred flesh as all that remained. Plus, Anakin rolled on the ground, which is one of the foremost fire safety tips!
     
  8. yoshifett

    yoshifett Jedi Knight star 5

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    The Force.

    (It's a good answer for all unexplained SW phenomena)
     
  9. JedimasterMoon

    JedimasterMoon Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think after Obi-Wan left, Anakin was able to put his attention on putting himself out.
     
  10. --Darth_Ganondorf--

    --Darth_Ganondorf-- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There was nothing else left to burn, basically. It's kind of like firewood. Once it's burnt, trying to ignite it again isn't an easy task (or anything else that burns for that matter, but I assume people have seen firewood burn more than anything else). Rolling around probably helped, too.
     
  11. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    He concentrated and put the fire out with the force. Funny though, they had been fighting over a sea of violent lava and were not touched. Then Anakin casually catches on fire just laying there.

    Anyway, what did you guy's thing? He was refering to Padme when he said: "I want my babyback babyback babyback, I want my babyback babyback babyback...."
     
  12. jedi_prime

    jedi_prime Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well, he inhaled a lot of superheated air, smoke and possibly some actual fire too. Thermal burn injuries, if not fatal, can cause disastrous long-term physical and emotional disability for the survivor. Especially in closed space fires, thermal and smoke damage to the lungs can occur, sometimes requiring intubation and use of a mechanical ventilator. They also used a hyperbaric suit, and possibly conducte Anakin's surgeries inside a similarly overpressurized operating theater. The overoxygenation can diminish lung damage and limit the progression of the injuries, but doesn't reverse it... So yeah, Anakin had to have a ventilator. Besides, with burns that bad, some of his internal organs and musculature, possibly including his diaphragm, may well have been damaged, which could also cause problems with breathing.

    Poor boy got barbequed.
     
  13. CDR_Praji

    CDR_Praji Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Some metals, like magnesium, do combust...at really high temperatures.
     
  14. namnlos

    namnlos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I think Obi-Wan hosed him down, if you know what I mean ;)

    Although I wonder if he'd have that much left to hose with, as he spent the enitre trip there in the ships toilet [face_thinking]
     
  15. jedi_prime

    jedi_prime Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I believe most, if not all, metals will combust under the right conditions.
     
  16. YodasBro

    YodasBro Jedi Youngling

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    It started raining.
     
  17. UPwind-ooooh

    UPwind-ooooh Jedi Youngling star 2

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    FIRE: Fuel in a state of combustion, as on a hearth, or in a stove or a furnace.

    COMBUSTION: The heat-producing reaction of a material with oxygen gas or other oxidant, often producing a flame.

    So, as noted above, Anakin ran out of combusable fuel and the fire went out! Then it was shake-and-bake time!!!! [face_skull]
     
  18. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They were on top of the lava droids, which had energy sheilds on the underside. And if you pay attention to Obi-wan's tunic, he's got scorch marks on it. Anakin caught fire because he slide far enough down to the edge of the lava bank, that he finally ignited. Notice that the fire starts with his leg stumps and goes up.

     
  19. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    He concentrated and put the fire out with the force. Funny though, they had been fighting over a sea of violent lava and were not touched. Then Anakin casually catches on fire just laying there.


    Do you believe this?.he used the force?. so he's a forcefirefighter?. [face_laugh]
     
  20. thechozn1

    thechozn1 Jedi Master star 4

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    I can't believe this thread is getting this much play

    He quit burning the reason anything quits burning... no more fuel. Which in this case was hair, clothes , ect
     
  21. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I can't believe this thread is getting this much play

    He quit burning the reason anything quits burning... no more fuel. Which in this case was hair, clothes , ect



    Yup, I said the same thing on page 1, and i'll probably say the same thing on page 80. lol
     
  22. thechozn1

    thechozn1 Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't doubt it
     
  23. mcleodcm

    mcleodcm Jedi Youngling

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    Alright so the real reason why Anakin stopped burning is all mathematical. You see if you take into account Einsteins theory of relativity you'll realize its all very simple.

    The first postulate -- the speed of light will be seen to be the same relative to any observer, independent of the motion of the observer -- is the crucial idea that led Einstein to formulate his theory. It means we can define a quantity c, the speed of light, which is a fundamental constant of nature.

    Note that this is quite different from the motion of ordinary, massive objects. If I am driving down the freeway at 50 miles per hour relative to the road, a car traveling in the same direction at 55 mph has a speed of only 5 mph relative to me, while a car coming in the opposite direction at 55 mph approaches me at a rate of 105 mph. Their speed relative to me depends on my motion as well as on theirs.


    This second postulate is really a basic though unspoken assumption in all of science -- the idea that we can formulate rules of nature which do not depend on our particular observing situation. This does not mean that things behave in the same way on the earth and in space, e.g. an observer at the surface of the earth is affected by the earth's gravity, but it does mean that the effect of a force on an object is the same independent of what causes the force and also of where the object is or what its speed is.


    So keeping this in mind, recall his theories on Mass, Energy and Momentum. The energy in Anakins body is E = 9.11 x 10-31 kg x (3 x 108 m/s)2 = 8.199 x 10-14 joules

    This gives us the energy equivalent of one electron. So, whether we say we have 9.11 x 10-31 kg or 8.199 x 10-14 joules, we really talking about the same thing -- an electron. Physicists go one stage further and convert the joules to electron volts. This gives the mass of an electron as 0.511 MeV (about half a million eV).




    Oh and of course i'm compeletely full of it. he just stopped burning.:-B
     
  24. DagniroVanaliel

    DagniroVanaliel Jedi Youngling star 2

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    *Re-reads above post*

    Though I only understood half of that, it makes sense.

    But I still think it was the Force.

    Haven't you people learned anything? Logic has no place in Star Wars.
     
  25. abadfeelingaboutthis

    abadfeelingaboutthis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    How did he survive for the hours or so until alpatine showed up with his burnt out lungs? Cos the reason he dies in ROTJ is because The Emperor fries his lung support.
    I guess it wasn't hours necessarily cold ave been 15 minutes I guess if Obi went straight to Hyperspace. Funny I just assumed when I saw it he had been crawling up that bank for a long time. I suppose he can survive for like 5 minutes or so without the iron lung. Perhaps I have answered my own questions.
    No dammit! Then instead of saying "Nothing can stop that now." When Luke tells him he will die he should have said "Not if you get my spare suit! Its in the closet! Room 1138! Go!"
     
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