What caused Palpatine's change of appearance?

But..but...but Sidious is Palpatine?

 

K, we get the point. Let's get back on topic now.

 

Yeah. I know that.

Read my sig line. I can't help it. Simply using absurdity to demonstrate absurdity.

Here's your topic back.

Oh, and laugh a little.

 

First of all, the OS doesn't say that Palpatine's appearance is not his true face any more than it says that Darth Vader wasn't killed by a life support system failure.

I can't think of a single post in this thread where anyone has said that the official site isn't official. Myself and others have suggested that the Official site may not be the complete and final authority, but that does not make it unofficial. Are you saying the Official RPG isn't official? Anything from LucasArts that is "Official" is "Official" inasmuch as it does not conflict with the film. On this topic, the OS doesn't conflict with the film, nor does it conflict with the other sources cited in this thread IF you understand that it is simply one point of view, and Ian's is another. Both points of view are Official, and I believe that Palpatine's change of appearance was caused by a combination of the lightning and his true form surfacing because I accept both points of view.

 

Oh boy.

The guys at WoTC have no contact with George Lucas. None, nada, zip. So what they write isn't coming directly from Lucas.

Pablo Hidalgo, who used to work on the WEG RPG BTW, is in constant contact with George Lucas.

So if he says it isn't a mask, it's not a mask.

If he says Lucas wasn't talking literally, only metaphorically, then that is the case.

But all this aside, the film itself shows Palpatine being disfigured, not dropping a mask. Are you going to trust what an actor says over your own eyes?

Ian, as much as I love him, also said Palpatine "moves almost at the speed of light if not sound". This isn't literally true either.

Lucas told Ian to play Palpatine as a mask, that Sidious was the true persona underneath Palpatine's smile.

It's a bloody metaphor. Yeesh.

 

alright i'm back to state my opinion one last time.


Lightning reflected back does not:

- make your eyes turn yellow like a sith.

- turn your teeth bad and twisted.

- make your hands all white and finger nails black.

- make your voice croaky


and I still hold belief that McDiarmid (who knows MORE than Pablo about his own character) did not take anything literally without asking Lucas about it. Any one who genuinly believes Pablo knows more than McDiarmid about his own character has lost it.

 

These are points that I used to make^^

Sidious' eyes changing yellow is NOT a result of lightning.

And yes McDiarmid WOULD know more about HIS OWN character than anyone else (cept of course Lucas himself )

 

thank you R8hitman, at last someone listens to reason.

 

Aha, he was "in constant dialoque", meaning he has discussed each and every detail in the OS database? From what I've experienced, "constant dialogue" means a meeting or telephone call every once in 10 weeks. Lucas has got a lot more things to do than to discuss Palpatine's transformation with the webmaster Pablo Hidalgo. If you think Lucas controls each word and sentence on the OS you're "more foolish than I thought" (just a quote, no offense meant).

And yes, I trust my own eyes. He was dropping a mask, not within one fraction of a second, but to the extend he exhausted his powers to withstand his attack against Windu. What the actor says perfectly fits with what I see with my own eyes.

IMO, the dark side has clouded thy vision, Justin Peeler. You're placing far too much importance to the official site, compared to logic, common sense and your own eyes-

 

So Charn? EVERYONE READ THIS!

 

What caused Palpatine's change of appearance? It's like I said, there comes a time when every little Sith goes through a period of...change. Their voices change, their skin starts to get all bumpy, and they start to notice girls in a...different way; it's a natural part of those awkward years. But you see, all is not lost. It's simply development. Think of it as that ugly little duckling that grew up to become an evil, sadistic swan. Nature is a beautiful thing.

 

yeah, i've read it, I still go on what McDiarmid says,


and the points I made above,

 

Yeah it does make more sense for him to have a "disguise" that he's using.

The only reason I backed off of this theory is because of the OS' statements, but I always believed that it was a mask.

http://boards.theforce.net/Revenge_of_the_Sith_/b10331/19790277/p1

It's just hard to go against the OS, the only thing that would debunk it is if Lucas himself comes out in Nov. and says something.

 

Face the votes. He wasn't hiding his real image. That's preposterous. And it doesn't make more sense. He was disfigured by his own hatred. JUST READ THE ABOVE POST BY ME!

 

The thing I don't get about the disguise is why would he use it in his dealing with the Trade Federation in TPM? They know he's a Sith, and the disguise is to fool the Republic, why use it with Gunray?

 

^interesting point.

 

^^^
didnt gunray feel 'betrayed' by sidious before, so hiding his identity worked out well.


JediCouncilMaster
He was disfigured by his own hatred.

i agree with that 100%.

 

How can you say that? Who else has had lightning reflected back at themselves other than Palpatine? From what's shown in the movie, lightning reflected back DOES do all those things. If you had said "being hit by lightning does not..." then I would agree with you. Unfortunately, there's no proof that lightning reflected back leaves no damage whatsoever.

 

I was just looking through the posts from the link that I posted and found a photo and was wondering what part of the film it was used in because I dont remember it?

[image=http://img298.echo.cx/img298/5250/episode3sidious5di.jpg]




Do you guys know?

 

I seriously doubt that lightning reflected makes you have Sith eyes,


may it also be noted that lightning was ONLY reflected back in his face, how can you explain his hands to be discoloured aswell, and his teeth became rotten (granted I suppose lightning could do this)

 

I just always thought that it was something that couldnt be easily "turned off and turned on" like that.

If it's hard for him to maintain or create I dont think he'd be turning it off and on unless he absolutely HAD to.

 

R8hitman that pic is used in the Yoda/Sidious fight in the office before the Senate Rotunda. When Yoda charges Sidious with that jump. And thanks for agreeing with me Jedi-Jacks.
And no he is not using a mask or a illusion to hide his appearance. Just face the facts, You can see smoke, you can hear the pop, sizzle, crack sounds. His true identity is the same old palpatine.

 

Who is Pablo?

 

R8hitman that pic is used in the Yoda/Sidious fight in the office before the Senate Rotunda.

Just popped it in and didnt see it.

You sure about that?

 

He's the guy I hired to put in my sprinkler system?

Seriously...

Pablo Hidalgo. I believe someone in one of the posts above mentioned his full name.