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What do you think of the Lost Tribe of the Sith concept wise ?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AngeDechu, Jun 14, 2010.

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  1. SithLord_1270

    SithLord_1270 Jedi Knight star 3

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    While I like the Sith & virtually anything to do with them, I'm not impressed with the Lost Tribe. To me, they come across more as Sith in Name Only. I also feel that way about Caedus & One Sith.

    I think bc I miss Sith like Bane, Revan, & Palps. These guys pale in comparison. They also seem a bit naive at times. They're a bit silly with their vanity & obsession shiny things( case in point that Fountain incident). They don't feel Dark enough for my taste. It's very hard for me to see them as a credible threat.
     
  2. Jmacq1

    Jmacq1 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm not entirely sure they're intended to be a credible threat or at least not a galaxy-shaking one. They do have a bit of a "second rate Sith" vibe to them but it doesn't seem like too many people terribly mind that. I'm not even sure they're intended to last beyond this story arc.
     
  3. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    So, what's going to happen next, hmmm? You seem to have worked out everything, and everyone. What's going to happen to Vol? Vestara? Taalan? Gaalan? Khai? What is going to happen to Daala? Or Lecersen? Or Abeloth?
     
  4. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Caedus killed Mara, tortured Ben, killed 3 Jedi, defeated Kyle Katarn, basically arranged Pellaeon's death, seized the Empire and tried to take control of the Galaxy, burning Kashyyyk to a crisp.

    Btw, he also killed a bunch of Mandalorians as well.

    I'd say he made out all right as a threat.
     
  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  6. Likewater

    Likewater Jedi Master star 4

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    Dalaa, dies.

    Taalan, Dies.

    Gaalan, Dies.

    Lecersen, dies or goes into Limbo.

    Vol, Dies because he is inconsequnesial, or goes into limbo.

    Abeloth Gets dispersed, or chucked down a black hole.


    Vestra, is the only one whos future can be anything.
     
  7. Manisphere

    Manisphere Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, that'll save me like $70. Thanks.[face_peace]
     
  8. Likewater

    Likewater Jedi Master star 4

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    Kyle Katarn is a non Entity outside of Video games. Yeah he gets the Chuck Norris award for the GFFA. But his internet Meme makes him more than he is. He defeated Kyle Katarn, his escape from the Seed Ship, and taking on a squad of YV in destinues was was far more impresive.

    He killed 3 Jedi, Nelani (No offense to Nelani's Gost) and the Faleen Jedi Allston used were no one of consequnce. Both Red shirts with no depth, or even indicated martial skill.


    He killed Mara I can consceed that, but Killed her in a rather Pathetic manner. Jacen in NJO threw a cave in a Deadly shrapnel storm at the Yuzzahn Vong in "Traitor", he Tazed a Squad of Vong in "destinies way" to dilibratly avoiud killing them.

    Fought a running battle fore days on end in Star By Star, He fight with mara, was at best anti climactic.


    The Empire wanted him to take over, Palleon is in no definition a Match for Tahiri. He did not Burn Kashyyk to a crip. he roughed it up. And the fact that the Shadow Acadamy not only Bombarded it from orbit but set down troops and Tie Bombers. he still behind Brakiss in that instance.


    But the Schooling of the Beskar Mando's was awsome. If Ceadus had more depictions like that things would have been diffrent.


    As for Ben, Ben was a Kriffin Moron in LOTF. Torturing him was no great feet.
     
  9. aesium

    aesium Jedi Master star 2

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    I'm indifferent over the Lost Tribe for two reasons:

    1) Nowhere in the Legacy comics are they mentioned, which I'm assuming means they're killed off in between FOTJ and Legacy or
    2) They just end up back on their home world being nothing more than a tame nuisance.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some huge conflict involving the Lost Tribe and solidifying their place in the SW galaxy and not just some one-timer ploy for this series.
     
  10. Sock2008

    Sock2008 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I would guess that every single Sith except Vestara dies. It's just a question of when; I would guess myself that in FotJ, but who knows - perhaps FotJ is just putting them forth as new villains for the next series?

    But, eventually, they have to go - it's not like they could be still there in`the Legacy era galaxy.

    Look at LotF: Jacen and Tahiri could have gone on to resurrect the Banite Sith, starting a new Rule of Two Order that would have survived to be a future opponent of the Jedi. Yet, in the end, LotF did away with these Neo-Banite Sith. No continuation. In FotJ, we have in the Lost Sith Tribe a version of the Sith Order with huge number of members. Why, I ask, should the end still be any different? Why would the Lost Sith Tribe survive when the Neo-Banite Sith didn't? Especially in a galaxy that 90 years afterwards has no evidence of them.

    Ok, perhaps one could trap them again on Kesh and hide it from the galaxy. A Sith reservate run by the Jedi...

    Concept wise, I think they are in a wrong place coming chronologically immediately after LotF and before Legacy. Some other era would have served them better. The idea of a lost Sith colony is no way problematic to me - on the contrary, I think it's probably only to be expected - but one appearing at this exact point in time is. Two to three years after Jacen's defeat and the Crosscurrent Sith, less than ninety years before Legacy's Sith Empire. It's too crowded for my liking.

    I just can't see them anything but a version of the old genre movies' with islands of prehistoric monsters that in the end sink to the sea, killing all the wondrous animal survivors of past ages. I look at the Lost Sith Tribe in the same way and I expect their end to be the same as King Kong's island - here Kesh - and it's animals in Son of Kong(1933). They are "The Sith That Time Forgot", used for a serial in nine parts and then discarded, I fear.

    Bluntly, I think they are a creation made just for FotJ. Nothing permanent, just here for the duration of the series, beyond Vestara, who screams "I want to be Mara Jade to Ben's Luke" to me at least. She seems like the most durable thing for EU to come out of this series as far as I'm concerned. Her father and the rest of the Lost Sith Tribe, I guess, will all be dead by the time we reach the last page of FotJ 9.

    It's the same with Lecersen and the Kuat senator - does anyone really believe that they will end up achieving anything other than their own defeat, and quite likely their deaths as a crowning feature of that defeat? I don't. Daala - her I could see surviving, perhaps even in power. I think it's partly a question of which version of FotJ Daala will be in FotJ 9.

    For all purposes FotJ seems like a simple kind of story to me. LotF looked the same and lots of people claimed then that it couldn't be as simple as that, that there had to be some twist, that things couldn't be like they looked on the surface or end up like the series did, with Jacen's defeat and death. There was no twist then. Why there should be now?
     
  11. Barringer

    Barringer Jedi Knight star 2

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    You know, if Vestara is redeemed, unless she forgot, Ship told the Lost Tribe that he had found the One Sith and found them wanting. I guess that would be useful information for the Jedi to have.
     
  12. Gomez_Addams

    Gomez_Addams Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I find them kind of interesting. They're not a Galactic-scale threat, but then again, they don't really need to be.
     
  13. Likewater

    Likewater Jedi Master star 4

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    Frankly I think It would have been much Better to have the ?Lost Tribe? to be a small group of 10 to 30 semi-independent one sith. With a Nom Anore like Objective to prepare the way for Krayt by sowing discontent and spreading chaos, this in forces the fact that the one sith have Become what they wanted to strengthen the galaxy Against.
    Gavaar Could have been the Big Bad of the group, or even the Star Scream. May be throw in a few guest appearances by Wyrlock I.


    Lose the Naiveté, have 1 work a Lercens evil advisor the other As Dalaa (like she needs one). It makes Luke look more competent with the small sith Brushfire wars. And the Sith look even more Bad a?ed, because the Jedi can never really lock them Down.
     
  14. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Wait, schooling a group of no name Mandalorians was awesome but killing Jedi wasn't?:confused:

     
  15. Likewater

    Likewater Jedi Master star 4

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    Sorry "Uber BESKAR" mandalorians. especialy after the horn tooting Traviss gave the allmighty Beskar in the previous novel. That he rolled the ubermech mandos and their super-metal, in such a dismissive and satisfactory manor.

    I get the same feeling every time the Yankees trounce the red socks.

    All in all no great feat, but something uniquley satisfying about it.
     
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