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ST What do you think of the titles for the sequel trilogy movies?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by DarthVist, Aug 7, 2019.

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What do you think of the titles for the sequel trilogy movies?

  1. Love all of the titles

    33 vote(s)
    40.7%
  2. Hate all of the titles

    24 vote(s)
    29.6%
  3. Love 2 of the titles, but hate 1 of them

    15 vote(s)
    18.5%
  4. Hate 2 of the titles, but love 1 of them

    9 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. Martin Hoffmann

    Martin Hoffmann Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The Force Awakens related to Rey and Kylo Ren. I found it good.

    The last Jedi was referring to Rey. In my opinion, it should have been referring to Luke.

    The Rise of Skywalker,an again refer to Rey or Kylo. That's fine.
     
  2. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    I liked TFA. I thought it was hopeful, in the same way that ANH was. But whereas ANH referred to Luke, I thought TFA could have referred to multiple characters. Rey, finding out she's a FS. Finn breaking his programming (and maybe being FS). That maybe the Force was awakening in the galaxy again after a time of rest or silence. That we'd finally be rebuilding the Jedi again.

    TLJ is okay. First it refers to Luke, but then it refers to Rey. I don't like that either one of them is the last Jedi anything. I think the movie title should have focused on Kylo, or the dark side, somehow. "Curse of the Dark Side" or something sinister. Maybe even alluding to Palpatine in some way.

    The Rise of Skywalker is pretty bland. So many recent movies use "rise of" in the third installment. It's also the same exact meaning as Return of the Jedi, only using slightly different words. It's meaningless. Especially since the Skywalkers are dead, didn't really rise up, and Rey Palpatine took their name. Even The Order of Skywalker would have been better.
     
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  3. Lobot's Wig

    Lobot's Wig Jedi Knight star 4

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    The Force Awakens
    - nice title for a reboot, reimagining, return to the Star Wars Galaxy. It has a nice meta edge to it, the franchise was awakening again after ten years.

    The Last Jedi
    - possibly the best title of the nine. Old school.

    The Rise of Skywalker
    - intriguing, but it failed to deliver on its promise in terms of what I hoped it might be about.
     
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  4. dolphin

    dolphin Chosen One star 5

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    I loved them all, especially Rise of Skywalker.
     
  5. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    I didn't particularly mind The Force Awakens title... I thought The Last Jedi was quite a 'Star Wars by numbers title', but it is what it is... and I thought The Rise of Skywalker was both a largely meaningless title and way too meta... and overall I thought it unimaginative that every title had to start with 'The'... but on the whole I thought the titles were largely inoffensive, but lacking in imagination.
     
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  6. Palp_Faction

    Palp_Faction Force Ghost star 4

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    The Force Awakens just doesn't sound very exciting.

    The Last Jedi works as it refers to Luke who regards himself as that.

    The Rise of Skywalker I don't like as it's just a marketing ploy. Sounds good, but beyond that it doesn't mean anything as no Skywalker rose from anywhere.
     
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  7. Sarge

    Sarge 6x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Ben Solo (Skywalker on his mother's side) rose out of the pit, literally and figuratively.
     
  8. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    This was covered in The Dark Knight Rises way better, when Bruce gets imprisoned and has to climb out of his literal and figurative pit, tries, fails, and then finally succeeds to do so, so he can become Batman, his true identity, once again.

    Ben rose out of his pit, off screen. For all we know he was only a half an inch off the cliff. And then dies. And he doesn't even rise then either.
     
  9. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like ‘em. I always took the Rise of Skywalker to have at least a double meaning: the literal rise of Rey who adopted the name, but also the rise of the influence of Luke’s complete life on the galaxy, up to and including his legend’s substantiation of faith — retaining, renewing hope even in despair.

    Some say what he did for the Crait battle was too little, too late. But clearly, if he hadn’t done it, the Resistance wouldn’t have had the chance to escape and “light the fire”. The whole idea of “size matters not” pervades throughout the saga, from that 2 meter exhaust port in the Death Star to this. In fact, that’s the main idea of any underdog story, really. The Skywalker family in particular represents the unlikely victory rising to actual victory, both politically and morally. I thought it was a fitting title.
     
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  10. LedReader

    LedReader Jedi Master star 4

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    See, the thing is I don’t even think Rey actually rises at all during Episode 9. She wins, sure. But I don’t recall her really growing or learning or bettering herself in any significant way that would be described as rising above who she was when the movie starts.
     
  11. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    And you really can't say that the Skywalker name is rising either, since, the galaxy has a long history knowing about the Skywalkers. They knew about Anakin. They knew about Luke. And they even knew that Anakin was Vader, and Leia was his daughter. But as a family, they're not even rising from that either.

    Why isn't it The Rise of Solo, since Han shows up to inspire his son? Why isn't the Rise of Palpatine? Since he genuinely is rising again, and his granddaughter rises up to the light.

    The Rise of Skywalker sounds cool, but means nothing really.
     
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  12. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm a traditionalist when it comes to the titles:

    1st of the trilogies: 3 words describing a character,

    A New Hope : Describes Luke Skywalker
    The Phantom Menace : Describes Darth Sidious
    The Force Awakens : Describes Rey ( the force awakening in her )

    2nd of the trilogy : 4 words describing a military advance

    The Empire Strikes Back : Describes the might of the Empire striking back against the Rebels
    Attack of the Clones : Describes the Attack by the Clones on Geonosis to Start The Clone Wars

    3rd of the Trilogy : 4 words to describe Returning , Revenge and Rising

    Return of the Jedi : Describes the Return of the Jedi in Luke Skywalker
    Revenge of the Sith : Describes the Revenge of Sidious and the Birth of the Empire
    The Rise of Skywalker : Describes the Rise of Rey to a Skywalker also the Rise of Skywalker in Ben and Leia

    Now the obvious Elephant in the room THE LAST JEDI this title is not traditional and has no right to be the title of Episode 8 , JJ Abrams understood the title sequencing and Rian Johnson did not and is basically why TLJ stands out as the most controversial Star Wars movie because it started with the title and went on to all the backlash it got - If JJ Abrams had directed Episode 8 the title would have been something like The First Order Rises.......
     
  13. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, I like that methodology too.

    I think the Force Awakens may have even worked better as EP 9 title, since an awakening is basically a return of something - ie: the force, the light is back.
    • EP 7: The Last Jedi. (Hints towards someone, Luke, Rey...maybe even Ben who knows. Even throws up a BIG mystery. )
    • EP 8: Rise of the First Order - refers to military advancing and new power. And it would make sense, since the FO is literally taking over the galaxy during the film.
    • EP 9: The Force Awakens - Force centered, return of religious order/theme/individual (Just like Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi)
     
  14. Lobot's Wig

    Lobot's Wig Jedi Knight star 4

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    I think that the title is very traditional in that plays to the episodic, serial nature of the franchise. The middle chapter, like that of the original trilogy, deals with the typically nadir situation before the ascent to the victory of the last chapter finale. To that end then “The Last Jedi” has a hint of bleakness and finality about it that hints at events to come.
     
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  15. alwayslurking

    alwayslurking Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I don't like the title The Last Jedi mainly because I don't like using the same noun in two films, especially when they're so close together in sequence. It's also a name that is emblematic of one of my issues with the ST (i.e. tearing the OT accomplishments down... the return of the Jedi, followed quickly be the last jedi). The Rise of Skywalker is just depressing in that it makes me wish for a trilogy that was actually about the rise of skywalker.
     
  16. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I had always hoped there would have been a title called "____ of the Force" and that there would be a new group of force sensitives forming over the ST and reaching their peak in Episode IX called "Rise of the Whills" or whatever the new discipline is called. With Lucas's blessing, of course.
     
  17. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Wasn't a suspected title Heirs of the Force. I thought JB mentioned he thought it was going to be this originally.
     
  18. FightoftheForgotten

    FightoftheForgotten Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The OT titles went good guys, bad guys, good guys.
    The PT titles went bad guys, (arguably) good guys, bad guys.
    The ST titles were all about the good guys and that doesn't sit right with me.
     
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  19. alwayslurking

    alwayslurking Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Don't worry. I'm sure you could find many Kylo fans who would claim the rise of skywalker is all about him.
     
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  20. FightoftheForgotten

    FightoftheForgotten Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    VII was the first title not to be referencing an organization which also irritates me, as does IX.

    1 - Sith
    2 - Galactic Republic
    3 - Sith (again, which also angers me to no end)
    4 - Rebellion
    5 - Galactic Empire
    6 - Jedi
    7 - the Force itself?
    8 - Jedi again
    9 - Rey?
     
  21. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    All three ST titles ultimately reference Rey: The Force awakens within her, “I will not be the last Jedi” cut to Rey’s face, Rey Skywalker rising
     
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  22. FightoftheForgotten

    FightoftheForgotten Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I really feel like VIII should have been about the First Order instead of the Jedi simply because we already have a movie referencing the Jedi.@DarkGingerJedi suggested "RISE OF THE FIRST ORDER and I love it, tbh.

    I feel like we have two new factions, Resistance and FO, and neither gets a name drop. It's just weird.
     
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  23. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree... although I think Rise of the First Order would have better suited Ep VII... as it sets a tone for the entire trilogy... whereas The Force Awakens suggests that the force has been asleep... which is a bit misleading, because it's no more 'asleep' in the galaxy or Rey as it was in Luke (ANH).
     
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  24. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    I went with "love all." The first two titles IMO are great-Rise of Skywalker isn't what I would've picked-and a little less clear than the other two given the events of the film, but I guess it's not bad.
     
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  25. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I actually think of the TFA title as referring to Rey’s sudden onslaught of Force powers, illustrated mainly in her telepathic fighting back of Kylo, her mind trick, and calling the lightsaber to herself. Whereas Luke had to learn gradually, Rey had all these unleashed abilities she didn’t know what to do with.