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What happened to Leia's red lightsaber?

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  1. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, she did make one. It's detailed in a vignette in the TT Sourcebook.

    Hmm.
     
  2. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Could the vignette be dated later?

    And wasn't she doing saber practice anyway? She would have had one from somewhere, unless she was bumming off Luke to do it?
     
  3. 000

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    I dunno. If I remember right, it's placed prior to or during the trilogy; I don't feel like digging out my copy at the moment though. I'll check later if no one else does.
     
  4. Card_Dreamer

    Card_Dreamer Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I'd be curious to know what the vignette says too since the novels don't seem to much allow for her constructing one o_O...

    Also, anyone remember what saber she used to duel the Hutt Dark Jedi in Planet of Twilight? I haven't read it since it came out...
     
  5. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    A uniformity of lightsaber colors shows a certain solidarity in the organization. Same with the clothes they wear and their general culture. The uniqueness of each saber rests not in the color of the blade(for the blade color no doubt shows a certain philsophical connection with color symbolism- blue, green and purple are colors associated with the upper body chakras and with higher spirituality and enlightenment) but in the look of the hilts and more importantly the meditation that each Jedi did to fine tune and fuse the parts together.

    There's a reason the Sith use red, and it's because it's a color associated with the root chakra and evil. A Jedi with a red lightsaber just seems wrong. The increasing uniformity of lightsaber colors in the NJO is emblematic of their greater cohesion as a group.

    I'd kind of like to see KOTOR-era class rankings rather than a million and one different colored lightsabers.
     
  6. Sabrajaguar

    Sabrajaguar Jedi Youngling star 4

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    ^ But Base emotions arnt evil. Nor should it be associated with evil, Unless you have somethingg wrong with your brain chemistry we can keep base impulses in check, and in dangerious or fight/flight situations they are quite useful. If they didnt need to be there the wouldnt be there.

    Their is nothing wrong with a Red Lightsaber (Other than on screen its hard on the eyes)
     
  7. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    That's sort of the point though, isn't it? The Sith and dark Jedi let base emotions run the show... not their higher faculties... and as such they don't move beyond the root chakra and they use the power they find there to dominate others. I'm certain the lightsaber color shows a unity of ideology and spiritual focus. Jedi aspire to the higher faculties and that is why they weild the colors they do. There's far more individuality of saber color in the Jedi Order than in either the Sith or Imperial Knights.

    Heck, letting the animal side run things is part of the problem with the external martial arts. They often keep a person in a stress state, especially in combat. Internal martial arts train to transcend that state and remain calm and clear headed in a fight. Fight or flight is a good thing, but should you be dominated by that at all times? Hunger is good, but should you allow yourself to let your desire for food dominate you so much that you over eat? Drive for sex is good too, but should one be ruled by it?
     
  8. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    What happens when you stab a saber into the ground, anywho...?

    Does it work its way to the planetary core or something? Odd...
     
  9. Card_Dreamer

    Card_Dreamer Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If you use Clone Wars toon and Ep3 as a basis for the answer, then it'd just stick there until pulled out like it did the Clone Trooper's chest and Durge.
     
  10. Sabrajaguar

    Sabrajaguar Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Are you looking your nose down on us Shotokun-Ryu practitioners? Or our brothers in Kempo-ryu? While no Shotokan is not purely physical but we dont ignore physical conditioning. And Capoiera and its focus on the Malicia balaced by Good humor, and Quite Physical and in many ways quite base.
    Even Ninjitsu practitioners who speak of carying ones on light even while surrounding by darkness
    [face_thinking]

    Bane, Lumyia, and many other darkjedi Dont let their base emotions control them. Their Need for control, Fear of wasting their lives, ambition, a desire for strength, are mostly hwat governs them. But its Corrupted by their absolute lack of morality. Not to mention a bit of a sadistic streak.

    So why do they not weild Veridian, or flame colored blades. Jacen is falling toward the darkness is he doing so because of his base desires. Or the Loss of the moral behvaior in which he guids his life.

    Evil, Darkside, Basness often Associated with negativity, in that way they are similar but not the same.
     
  11. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Here's the vignette (I figure providing it in full's kosher since it's very short and the TTSB is out of print anyway):

    "I don't think I'm ready for this, Luke," Leia Organa
    Solo, princess of Alderaan and heir to the Skywalker
    legacy, protested as her brother looked on.
    "You're as ready as I was," Luke countered calmly.
    "You're going to do just fine."
    "Can't we go over it again?" she asked nervously.
    She knew how much he believed in her, and she
    didn't want to disappoint him.
    "It's now or never, Leia," Luke Skywalker said
    gently but firmly. "Now go out there and do it."
    "All right, Luke," Leia reluctantly agreed, "I'll try,"
    "There is no try, Leia," Luke replied, trying to hold
    back a smile. "There is only do ..."
    Leia nodded, hefting the set of archaic tools Luke
    had given her. They had belonged to Ben Kenobi, he
    had told her.
    "I built my lightsaber with those tools, Leia," he
    said, finishing her thought. "On Tatooine, out at
    Ben's old place, just before we rescued Han from
    Jabba the Hutt."
    She knew all that. Luke had explained it to her as
    he taught her about the Force. He had lost the saber
    that Ben had given him, the one that had belonged to
    their father, on Cloud City. He lost it when he lost his
    hand to Darth Vader's blade. Darth Vader, their
    father ... sometimes it was all so confusing.
    "Calm, Leia, calm," Luke soothed, reminding her
    of her lessons. "Be at peace."
    "Yes, teacher," she said, and they both smiled.
    She gave Luke a quick hug, then started out into the
    wilderness. With a low whistle, Artoo-Detoo followed
    her.
    "Luke...?" she asked, glancing uncertainly at the
    astromech droid.
    Luke shrugged. "He was with me when I built
    mine. Maybe he thinks it would be a good idea if he
    was with you, too."
    The droid beeped affirmatively, and continued to
    roll along after the Princess. In a way, Leia was
    relieved. The little droid would keep her company
    while she searched for the components and then
    assembled them. He wasn't permitted to help, of
    course, but his presence would make her feel a little
    less alone.
    You're never alone.
    Luke's thought brushed into her mind with comforting
    gentleness. She held onto it over the next
    three days as she followed all the things he had
    taught her and trusted the Force to point the way.
    By the end of the third day, she had gathered all of
    her components. As dawn broke on the eighth day,
    she emerged from the wilderness, with Artoo beside
    her, to find Luke sitting in exactly the same position
    as when she last saw him.
    "Well?" he asked her. He was surprised to see
    how quickly she had returned ? it often took Jedi
    nearly a month to build a lightsaber. She clearly
    shared the same extraordinary natural abilities he
    had.
    She pulled the tubular, smooth handle from the
    folds of her robe and held it out for him to inspect.
    He did not touch it, but his eyes traveled over its
    length with great care. He nodded.
    "Try," Luke said, gesturing at the activator switch.
    "There is no try," Leia replied calmly, "only do."
    With a flick of her finger, a brilliant beam of light
    erupted from the gleaming top disk. The light illuminated
    Luke's serene face, and the pulsating hum
    filled the clearing with sound.
    "Then it's time to really start your lessons," Luke
    declared, rising to his feet and smiling broadly.
    "You're going to love using the remotes."
    "I can hardly wait," she said, shutting down her
    lightsaber. Her lightsaber. She liked the sound of
    that. She also liked that she had succeeded. Maybe
    she could be a Jedi, too. Like her father before her.
    Like her brother.


    The text in the article about Leia that precedes the above passage strongly suggests that this takes place prior to TTT, although it's not definite.

    Also, I'm now more certain than ever that Leia's functionally retarded.
     
  12. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    That's the thing though isn't it? The legendary Sith Lords started their fall by letting their base desires take the reigns one too many times. Look at Jacen Solo, the core of his fall has been his greed for knowledge and his fear of war. Anakin Skywalker let his fear of losing his wife and his greed for power rule him. Bane was an animal when it came to fighting, and that's what even opened him to the Force. This is the symbolism of the lightsaber colors, and the uniformity of blade colors is far better than having authors make up whatever color they want to just to distinguish their characters from Luke Skywalker.

    As if to say "oh, Luke's got boring old green mine's got _____" Like KJA, purple with flecks of red and what have you in Gantoris/Kyp's saber. Stackpole with silver. And the worst yet has to be Denning with his blue-almost-black lightsaber.

    No, I'm not looking down my nose at any practitioner of any martial art... I'm just stating a problem that's been found with the external martial arts... be it the Japanese arts such as Shotokan or Chinese such as most Shaolin styles. I do Ba Gua and an internalized variation of Shaolin.
     
  13. DarthSanctimonious

    DarthSanctimonious Jedi Knight star 3

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    Remember: as long as it's only almost black, it's not a bad fanfic.
     
  14. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Besides, it has always been the case that the best crystals for use in lightsaber construction were Adegan crystals. Ilum is the planet where the Jedi get their crystals from, and Ilum is in the Adegan system. Blue, green and purple are the crystals that are there. The Sith use manufactured crystals for whatever reason.

    Let's say that after the Clone Wars Ilum went out of use, eventually the NJO must have rediscovered Ilum and unearthed the old crystal mine/Jedi Temple. It would stand to reason that since these crystals are the best for use in lightsabers that the NJO would switch to using primarily those crystals in their lightsabers. Why use an inferior crystal when you can get those that have proven to be the best for millenia?
     
  15. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    There are only green and blue crystals on illum, not purple. The Clone War cartoon was wrong..
     
  16. Sabrajaguar

    Sabrajaguar Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Jaina also grew her Cystal and it was purple.

    Jacens crystal is a coruca Jem as was the crystal in Ganners Lightsaber.

    Tenel Ka's saber is made from the Rainbow Gems of Gallanor from her tiara.

    I really dont think its as simple as ilum and manufactured. The Lambant crystal in Anakin Solo's saber produced a purple blade similar to his previous gem.
     
  17. kttch809

    kttch809 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think that the intention was for "Leia's Lightsaber" to occur during the events of Heir to the Empire given that it was originally written for that novel's sourcebook and Leia's use of the term "teacher."

    After they've left Bimmisaari, Han asks if whether it's about time that Leia had her own lightsaber. One thing to note, however, is that Luke then says that he's willing to construct one for her whenever she's ready. If it occurs between this and the part where she's wielding it against the remote, she probably insisted on doing it herself.
     
  18. Ataro_Soresu

    Ataro_Soresu Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Ilum isn't the only place to get top-end lightsaber crystals. There's also the Adegan system, and other places.

    While we're on the subject, why is it that Adegan crystals don't just come from Adega? Were they first discovered there, and that term was applied to any crystal that resonates with the Force?


    And who says Ilum only has green and blue gems?
     
  19. BobaMatt

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    Continuity says Ilum has only blue and green gems, which explains the PT's lightsaber situation. BTW, Ilum is in the Adega system.

    Purple crystals come from Hurikane...
     
  20. Ulicus

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    I don't mind there being a lot of colours but I don't think Jedi should be wielding red, just because that's always been very strongly associated with the evil characters of Star Wars (in film) and should have always stayed that way.

    Lucas' stupid "only blue and green" rule really bothered me. Mace's purple lightsaber actually made it worse, since it just further emphasised the fact that every other Jedi had blue/green. I mean, some of those Jedi just *did not fit* with their blade colour at all.

    Couldn't Lucas have thrown in a few yellow blades? No, because he has a "vision" and it's boring.
     
  21. Randy1012

    Randy1012 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I do agree that red should only be relegated to evil characters. I really would have liked to see some variety in the PT Jedi's lightsabers, and the battle on Geonosis would have been the opportune moment. I remember seeing the trailer for AOTC back in 2002 and when I saw that ring of Jedi in the arena I kept wishing that at least some of them would have different blade colors. But alas, it was not to be.

    I remember reading something about how Nick Gillard wanted Cin Drallig to have a yellow lightsaber, but that was nixed by Lucas. If Sam Jackson could have his purple lightsaber, why couldn't Gillard, who contributed far more to the films than Jackson did, have a yellow one?

    Of course, there might not have been a problem if Luke's blue lightsaber hadn't been so hard to make out on Tatooine in ROTJ. :p
     
  22. BobaMatt

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    Well, originally he wanted it to just be blue vs. red, but then there was the technical issue in rotj...
     
  23. Ulicus

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    Indeedy. I could understand if they didn't want to use yellow in that environment, but... yeah, we should have seen some more purples, some different greens, some different blues.

    I think Yoda should have had a yellow/gold blade and all...

    Point, there.

    Bless Tattooine for having a background that wasn't great for a blue lightsaber.
     
  24. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Meh, I brought that up in a previous discussion about Leia & Lightsabers, I can't remember what exactly said afterwards as the thread was around early last year, but it was nixed or some
     
  25. Havac

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    I like it that they wield red. It's just a color. The Sith feel attached to it, yet it's notable that Kun never cared enough to make his red. I don't see why the Jedi should be forbidden from a color because their enemies have tried to make it their own. Better to fight back and claim all colors for the side of good.

    I like Leia best with a red saber. I think it fits her. And how much better would AOTC have been if Dooku had a blue saber, and you only found out in the final scene that he was really a Sith?
     
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