what happened to vader after death star 1 distruction?

what do you think might have happened to Vader once the first death star was destroyed. Did the emperor actually physically punish him. Or do think he forgave him?

 

I don't think the Emperor saw Vader as having any responsibility for what happened to the first DS. It was Tarkin's pet project and thus his fault that the death star's achilles heel (the exhaust port) went unnoticed by all save the Alliance. Obviously, Tarkin was not alive to be reprimanded in any way (if the Emperor would even do that). Yes, Darth Vader was on the attack force against the rebel fighters, but who could have forseen Han Solo stepping in at the last minute to give Luke a chance?

 

If you believe the EU, I think that in in one of the books (Splinter of the Mind's Eye maybe?) Palpatine does punish Vader for the Death Star fiasco by cutting off his right hand. Of course, AOTC has since put a spanner in the works here by showing that Anakin lost his right hand to Dooku.

 

"We're taking an awful risk Vader. This had better work" - Grand Moff Tarkin.

It was Vader's idea to allow the Millenium Falcon to escape with the Death Star plans. Ok, he may not have known the Death Star plans were with Artoo but he did allow someone who knew of the plans (Leia, who, for all Vader knew, could possibly have already discovered a weakness in the Death Star prior to capture) to escape in a desperate effort to find the Rebel's hidden base.

I think it is possible that Vader could have been punished by the Emperor for the Death Star 1 incident.

 

As the only survivor of the Death Star, Vader was free to tell the Emperor anything he wanted, and there was no one around to dispute it.
He likely blamed it all on Tarkin.

 

I doubt Vader was seriously reprimanded at all. Note how the next movie has him in charge of his own fleet, with seemingly limitless executive power.

 

as DS says vader is the only survivor of the death star explosion that im aware of. therefore, provided palpatine would hold vader guilty in the first place (which i doubt), vader could say anything he wanted. and i dont doubt he told the truth either. once he got control on his ship, he makes use of its lightspeed and flys off to coruscant or whatever, informs palpatine of what happened and they start getting to work on the second death star, with palpatine making sure he personally oversees it this time......palpatine isnt aware of death star 1 in AOTC or episode three right? im not sure i should ask that!

and yes i recall an EU scene that has mara jade talking to luke about vader getting his hand chopped off. definatly one of the zhan empire/thrawn trilogy books. might be something to research if you can be bothered flicking through all those pages! my best guess is when luke and mara are travelling through that forest on myrkir (spelling?) in heir to the empire. although maybe the 2 of them are not aquented enough to be having conversations THAT personal...

 

Indeed. If my memory of the EU is correct, Palpatine kills Bevel several times to teach him a lesson.

 

Mara Jade states that Vader had his hand cut off.

 

Vader's ship landed on a desolate planet, where he survived for a short amount of time in the middle of nowhere. He was harassed by a pack of beasts, but fended them off until he was chosen to be their Alpha. He eventually found an Imperial outpost, and jumped on an outbound shuttle. The remaining Imperials were torn apart by the beasts.

 

As the only survivor of the Death Star, Vader was free to tell the Emperor anything he wanted, and there was no one around to dispute it.
He likely blamed it all on Tarkin.

That's very possible DS, though I don't think Vader would have gotten away with lying to the Emperor by saying that it was all Tarkin's fault. For all we know Tarkin could have been making regular reports to the Emperor and may have already updated him on what they were doing.

Anyway I'm sure that Palpatine wouldn't have been fooled so easily. I think he would see through such an obvious lie.

 

I think he would see through such an obvious lie.

Ah, but is it a lie?

It was Tarkin that allowed the rebels to escape. (This did result in finding the rebel base, so it was a good idea.)
It was Tarkin that ordered the Death Star to fire on Yavin 4 (as opposed to just invading it the regular way).
It was Tarkin that refused to acknowledge the danger and take action.
It was Tarkin that refused to launch TIE fighters against the rebels.

In reality, Darth Vader is the only one who took any sort of actual action to preserve the Death Star.

 

remember that it was Vader who was trying to get the stolen plan back from Leia and the rebel. Vader failed in doing that and the rebel success must have blotted vadar's copy book with the top sith lord. . . Unless . . It was all part of the emperors foreseen plan to bring out Luke to the fore. let the droids escape, and find Kenobi, and hopefully Luke.

 

In reality, Darth Vader is the only one who took any sort of actual action to preserve the Death Star.

I couldn't agree more.

Also, ealier in the film Vader said that 'the ability to destroy an entire planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force' and he was right. It was Luke's use of the Force that destroyed the Death Star. Vader knew that Tarkin and the Imperial High Command were too overconfident in their technological terror to admit any danger. Most likely the Emperor would have known that too and in the end might not have punished Vader at all.

It was Tarkin that ordered the Death Star to fire on Yavin 4 (as opposed to just invading it the regular way).

Again I agree. Tarkin's use of the Death Star to destroy the Yavin base was absurd. They had already made their 'effective demonstration' of the Death Star's power with Alderaan. Vader's method of attacking the Hoth base in ESB was far more effective and kept the Imperial's casualties down to a minimum. They didn't get all of the Rebels in the attack but they got far more than they did at Yavin 4.

 

Palpatine ordered the destruction of Alderan he wanted to test his new toy.I don't think Palpatine cared about the First Death Star that much.He ordered the Death Star rebuild right away.Tarkin was following Palpatine's Wipe them out all of them order.Vader was not punished.He was demoted in Return of the Jedi being Death Star construction Boss

 

I don't think his being on the Death Star in ROTJ was really a demotion. The Death Star 2 project and the Trap planned for the Rebellion would have been a very high priority for the Empire.

Vader's presence on the Death Star was to keep the construction team on their toes, to remind them of the importance of being on schedule. It was the Emperor's command to have everything ready in time for the Rebel Alliance's attack and Vader was the only one who could make it so.

 

I was just kidding, by the way. I read that in a comic in Waldenbooks. It was awful.

 

I read the same comic book once in a small shop by a road stop at the highway. Pretty stupid too, the idea of Vader crashing on a deserted planet and having to fight through a bunch of creatures like in a video game until he finds a ship is pretty dumb. Also, while Vader didn't really kill them, Vader allowed the creatures he had control over to just attack the Imperials as soon as he left for no reason, which is really out of character for him. I don't know if it's canon or not but that specific comic book just seemed idiotic.

 

If you believe the EU, I think that in in one of the books (Splinter of the Mind's Eye maybe?) Palpatine does punish Vader for the Death Star fiasco by cutting off his right hand. Of course, AOTC has since put a spanner in the works here by showing that Anakin lost his right hand to Dooku.



ok, just how many times does vader get his hand cut off?

 

He loses that hand a couple of times.


I remeber reading somewhere was that Vaders TIE had a hyperdrive. This allowed him to fly to a nearby imperial base, where he was later picked up by the fleet of Star Destroyers send to waste the base at Yavin 4 .

 

If you believe the EU, I think that in in one of the books (Splinter of the Mind's Eye maybe?) Palpatine does punish Vader for the Death Star fiasco by cutting off his right hand. Of course, AOTC has since put a spanner in the works here by showing that Anakin lost his right hand to Dooku.

Not really. Palpy just cut off Vader's mechanical hand.

 

I also remember having his hand cut off. Anyway, I give you a quote from "Vader's Quest" #2. Vader returns to Coruscant, and meets the Emperor at the Throne Room:

VADER: Haven't you recieved the report, my Master?

PALPS: About the destruction of Moff Tarkin's Pet Toy? Yes, I have. But I been waiting for a PERSONAL report. You didn't think I'd forget this FAILURE, did you?... What kept you, aprentice?

VADER: I've... searched for the who... destroyed the Death Star...

PALPS: Have you found him....?


In that moments, the alarm sounds, and the meeting is over. The entire comic deals with Vader learning that the name of the pilot who did it is Skywalker. He tries to hide this information from the Emperor.