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What's up with all the red-skinned Sith in Legacy?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by BROWNHORNET, Mar 2, 2008.

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  1. BROWNHORNET

    BROWNHORNET Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I picked up Legacy #20 the other day and saw once again a red-skinned Sith, this time a Quarren I believe. So far, there has been Darth Talon, Darth Wyrlokk, Darth Maladi, Darth Strfye, Darth Kruhl, and probably too many other Sith to count that have red-skinned and black tatoos. I loved Darth Maul too and thought he was an awesome visual, but I think the Legacy guys are going into overkill here with this color scheme. Red seems like the default color or something. Does anyone else think there is an overabundance of red Sith in the Legacy books?
     
  2. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    No. Red skin and black tattoos are basically their uniform, an outward sign of the ideology of the New Sith Order. It fits them well.
     
  3. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The implication, thusfar, seems to be that only "born Sith" are red, too. Which I like. As others have noticed, the whole thing seems like a tribute to the original Sith species.

    It's cool.
     
  4. Manisphere

    Manisphere Jedi Master star 5

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    There is always Darth Nihl but he wasn't born Sith.
     
  5. Mandalore_Prime

    Mandalore_Prime Jedi Youngling

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    Is there such a thing as a "born Sith?"
     
  6. Gharlane

    Gharlane Force Ghost star 3

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    Yes born and raised as a member of the Sith Order not recruited.
     
  7. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, they could make them green or yellow, but I don't think it would have the same visual effect....
     
  8. jfostrander

    jfostrander Writer: -Legacy -Republic/Jedi/Purge star 4 VIP

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    I wanted plaid with different designs suggesting different clans within the One sith. Jan told me that was just the sort of idea writers have -- one sentence concept for me, unspeakable work for her.

    She's SUCH a spoilsport.

    -- John McO
     
  9. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They're not red-skinned with black tattoos, except in the rare case of species with natural red skin. They're covered in red and black tattoos. It's a Sith thing, just like with Darth Maul.
     
  10. Mandalore_Prime

    Mandalore_Prime Jedi Youngling

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    Darth McTalon! Brilliant!
     
  11. Strika23

    Strika23 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yeah, like Darth Talon would be considered 'red-skinned' with 'black tatoos' because she is a lethan (red) twi'lek who is heavily tatooed in black tatoos.
    Others, like the background nautolan, quarren, rodian, gotal etc sith- I doubt these species have a natural skin tone that have bright red tones. Maybe quarren...but who knows.
    Darth Maladi would be another sith who would be considered to have 'red skin' because she is devaronian. I'm not sure about Darth Wyrlokk though, he seems to be naturally red but I dont know the color schemes of chagarians. If they are anything like twi'leks in color schemes then I'm assuming it could be possible he is naturally red-skinned.
    I guess the red and black tatoos/skin tones are in honor of the original sith, who were red skinned near humans. Darth maul was a born sith and had these exagerated tatoos.
    Plus, in our society red= devil/fire black-evil/darkness. Red and black are usually associated with evil in our society.
    It wouldnt have the same effect if these sith were running around with green, blue and yellow tatoos. Red and black suit them perfectly I think.
     
  12. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Ohhh.... so One Sith is their name, its not just a LOTF term. :D
     
  13. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    You have to bear in mind, too, that the One Sith are relatively unique in that A'Sharad seems to have constructed an entire culture to go with the Force-tradition; there haven't been Sith of this sort in over five millennia.
     
  14. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I like to think he's resurrected the old Sith culture... rather than constructed a new one, though it's certainly possible that he has.
     
  15. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    I actually typed "resurrected the original Sith culture," but then remembered that there's not a whole lot if similarity between (what little we know) of the One Sith and (what little we know) of the original Sith.
     
  16. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I'm thinking that OOU, it's a visual cue for the reader that the guy in the picture is really evil. It works well in frames with a lot of characters...like it Legacy #1. When Kol and Wolf start battling, it's clear who the enemies are....the guy in white armor, the Red/Black tattooed guys and the guy who is "Different" that seems to be some type of leader (Nihl). You don't necessarily see Kol kill a lot of Sith but when he falls, it's onto a pile of Red/Black bodies. Takes away any thoughts of "Oh, he fell where many of his fellow Jedi fell" or anything like that. You know that he took down a lot of Sith with him.

    It may sound absurd as a reason but things like that make it much easier for me to follow what is going on in the pages of a comic, where pictures have to tell the story almost as much as text.
     
  17. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    That's a neat catch, and one I'd not noticed. Krayt, Nihl and Cade - the known outsiders - all have normal skin, though the first Chagrian seems to be shown as red rather than blue...

    [face_thinking]

    And was Jor Torlin "born Sith" and taken off the production line before the respray, or was he a Force-sensitive taken in for training for outside...?

    ***

    Now I think about it, though, there's also something chilling, and very effectively anti-Jedi, in focusing all the Galaxy's Force-sensitives into an Order in which biological reproduction is emphasised, rather than treated with caution and hesitation...

    [face_laugh]

    Well, if we get an Ewok in a kilt, I'll be verra happy... :D

    -- Thrawn McE
     
  18. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    All I ask is for a red-skinned black tattooed Gungun named Darth Amphibious.
     
  19. NelanisGhost

    NelanisGhost Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I think it's a basic lack of creativity.

    Just because Darth Maul had that, doesn't mean everyone should.
     
  20. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    That must be it, considering the lack of creativity the Legacy team has displayed thus far. :p
     
  21. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Well, it's actually fairly clear that not everyone has that. Thus, for all of Krayt's Sith to follow this single tradition is a new concept, no?
     
  22. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That is a really interesting point. The One Sith have an advantage that I'm not sure any order since the original Sith Empire has had, a generational system that has lets them grow their ranks over time while not worrying about the dangers of outside recruits.

    But you raise another point there about the Force-sensitives of the galaxy, which makes me wonder, what happens to them? As far as I know we've heard nothing about recruiting or academies, with the exception of Nihl, which was something personally done by Krayt, and Cade, who was a special case. Do the One Sith perhaps keep their inner circle made of natives (and the occasional loyal/useful Nihl or Cade) and use recruits in a support role? Do they just ignore the FS population of the galaxy and hope it won't be a problem?
     
  23. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Maul was taken as a young zabrak boy and was trained to be a sith. Palps gave him those nifty tatoos.
     
  24. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I'm thinking that they scoop up any really strong force users they find (Nihl appears to be pretty strong) and just ignore the rest. The Trebor Colemans of the galaxy probably won't pose a threat if they are untrained, and with the Jedi on the run they aren't likely to be hauling around tons of new Padawans.

    It may also depend on social standing. With Darth Nihl being some type of Warlord on his home planet at one point they may have figured he was someone that was better to have in their camp than gathering up his own army and causing problems later. Alternatively the force sensitive slumming it on Nar Shadda isn't likely to end up having sway over a large populace and wouldn't need to be eliminated/brought into the fold.
     
  25. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Perhaps the first Wyyrlok =/= the first Chagrian One Sith.
     
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