Amph Wheel of Time (Amazon Prime TV Series)

There are definitely politics in the series, but the bulk of it is in the later books and doesn't drive the story as a whole. It's also not at all to the depths that GOT has. So yeah, if you'rel ooking for political intrigue, this won't be your series.

 

WoT Politics in a nutshell:

Women: If only these moron men would do what they're told.

Men: If only women would get out of the way.

Yep, that is what it took 13 books and a couple of decades to say.

 

I disagree, I think The Witcher is better overall and hit its stride during episode 1

I didn't feel Ep1 on Witcher was a struggle whereas WoT I nearly turned off a couple of times and only powered through as 2 & 3 were available (and it was better than what I was doing for work)

This is why dropping for binge watching is better than drip feed.

One episode can turn someone off forever especially if it's the first one whereas if it's all episodes then you may take a chance on Ep 2 and think it's worth a punt

Plus we all pay for Prime/Netflix/Disney to binge shows not for the drip feed TV style schedule.

Overall, for me personally, Witcher is a far better produced, acted and directed show (flaws and all) than WoT but each to their own

 

I thought the music was great

 

It sounds like a mix between Enya and bad blue grass. To me that’s a match made in hell.

 

That wasn’t so much the politics as it was the relationships between everyone, but yes.

 

I think the funniest bit of politics in WoT is actually in The World of... where there's a solid paragraph describing a communist utopia that seemingly realizes, after nearly finishing the description, that it has described a communist utopia, and so then there's a hasty mention of "And of course this was all provided for by the highly advanced capitalistic economy."

 

We watched the first episode of this yesterday, and my God, what a load of derivative crap.

 

I'm caught up now, and I rate it at a solid 'meh.' The most compelling moment was Moiraine's monologue about the ancient people of Manetheren.

 

That’s exactly what I thought!

 

My youngest son watched the first 10 minutes of episode two with me and said that whoever was responsible for casting the hobbits should be fired.

 

I hope that’s not all there is to this. It’s like, not only is that not entertaining but we get enough of it with other things. I was hoping this would just be a fun, interesting fantasy show. Only one episode in so I’ll reserve judgement. Hopefully, there is more to it than this.

 

Don't worry the omnipresent and almost stiflingly rigid gender politics are merely one of the two core themes of the books, the other being "Boy, it sure would suck to be the protagonist of a major fantasy series."

 

Oh well. Im going to keep at it just to see. But, your points are noted.

 

I mean, it's just a fair warning given your concern; as handled in the books it winds up grating on nearly everyone who reads them at some point or another, it's tough to imagine the show avoiding this.

 

just a note here that Monty Python did this for fantasy decades before George RR Martin came along.

 

Must be cheap fantasy.

Why?

Because nobody has **** all over them.

 

I wondering on watching this, but need to subcribe to Amazon, and considering waiting for LOTR series, I hear first episode is mixed, whats the score here.

 

See the last 3 pages. I think it’s good, but I’ve only heard of the books and watched videos on them not read them. Don’t compare to Game of Thrones. If compare to anything, I say to the Lord of the Rings in terms of plot at least, it’s more in that tone.
Here’s a review: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1284265


Anyways, question (maybe more for the book-readers). Something that has always rubbed me the wrong way when hearing about Dune and Wheel of Time are the gender-based roles of their “magic” systems. I doubt the show will touch on it because the books never did, and the author is no longer with us to comment on it, but questions… how would a non-binary gender person fit in? Would they just not have access to the One Power? Would they have a choice on which one they can tap into? Or, perhaps what’s thought of as the way men use the One Power isn’t inherent to their gender but more to the mindset that’s usually associated with a male/masculine upbringing, likewise for women and a female/feminine upbringing, and each could tap into the other side if they just had the different mindset? Just some thoughts. I find the gendered magic more acceptable in Wheel of Time than in Dune, though (where in Dune, it’s straight impossible until Paul, and that being a man who can do these things is part of Paul and later his son being the potential Kwisatz Haderach/chosen one. Which the books also reveal to be a bad thing and not a savior trope but still.)

 

There are no trans/non-binary people in the WOT world as far as I know. Jordan died before we as a society truly understood how that worked, so I don’t know how he might have incorporated it into his story.

Very minor spoiler for the end of book 1 and (I think) book 9:

Spoiler

At the end of the first book, Rand confronts and defeats two male Forsaken, Power-wielding lieutenants of the Dark One. Later, the Dark One introduces two new lieutenants into the ranks of the Forsaken, one male and one female. These two are the ones that Rand defeated reborn into new bodies. The female one was reborn as a woman as a cruel joke by the Dark One, but because his spirit is still male, he/she can still only wield the male half of the One Power.

During the climax of book 9, the good guys are confused because they see this woman apparently wielding the Power, but none of the Aes Sedai on Rand’s side can detect her channeling. That’s because female channelers can’t detect male channeling, and vice versa.

 

and if this situationbis in the show, Rafe et. al. can easily make it so that it’s not a cruel thing but a choice.

 

4th episode is more of the same IMO. Maybe the actors are settling into their roles with experience or maybe I'm just getting used to them, but they seemed a little better in this one.

 

Ep 4 not sitting well with me even though I consider it a portal world to Jordan Prime.

Spoiler

the who’s the Dragon misdirection was really annoying here having Logain be able to see Nynaeve channel. Just ugh

 

It's a parallel universe, the rules here are different.

 

I read the first book and quit, basically because I just didnt care about the characters. I'll give this series a try just to see if it hits me differently.