When do Luke and Leia get conceived?

No middriff? crap!

 

I won't mind a birth scene, just as long as they don't overdo it. They might cut to her face all sweaty, or something like that.
I can already picture, in my mind, the 'pregnant padme' action figures.

 

Ah-haha! And we thought that Anakin's arm falling off was hokey. Just imagine the "action" function of a pregant Padme figure!





Mace Windy,
yes, there is a draft in here!

 

!!!

 

LOL

Man, a pregnant Padme figure!

I think Luke and Leia get conceived months before Episode III begins. Anakin has to be learning from Obi-Wan about being a Jedi. Padme, being a Senator, probably came to Coruscant on one night when there were no duties required of her. Remember when Ric Ollie stated that the planet of Coruscant is one big city? There are trillions of places where they can go on the planet of the Jedi temple without being noticed. This way, Anakin isn't far away from the Jedi, and Padme is still inside the political arena of her Senator status.

 

If it is true about Lucas saying that Padme would be pregnant at the begiining of Ep3 then Anakin will not be able to see her throughout the whole movie seeing as how the movie is in " real" time. She must be about 9 months prego too seeing as how the children are going to be born by the end of the movie. So Padme will already be on the run from Anakin from the beginning of the movie seeing as how anakin never knows of his offspring until after Ep4. What would be real cool but probably would not happen is if Padme actually got to see Anakin in his Vader suit and there was some dialogue exchanged btween the two , hence the " she was always sad " line by Leia in ROTJ.

 

I think luke and leia will be concieved ealy during the movie and padme will hide the pregnancy from changing anakin. The twins I doubt will be born during the movie. possibly obi shall escort pregnet Padame from a planet to where ever where she will eventually give borth but not during the movie

 

I don't know when they get concieved

I just envy Anakin for making it happen

*in homer voice* Mmmmm, Natalie Portman *drools*

 

Since this thread is up..

but how do you clone a MALE from a FEMALE? Females have two X chromosomes, so where do you get the Y needed for a male?

I cant recall if I've mentioned this before, The_Bat, but if I know anything I know that those Kaminoans are damn good cloners. We know in AotC that they are so good that they can alter the genetic code which alters the muturation of a being. I understand that there have been studies and experiments even here on our Earth about what chromosomes control what feature. The first one found, I recall, is the chromosomes which effect gender, X and Y. Howeverm I have not yet heard any geneticist say they have found, or even begun to find, the chromosomes which effect maturity rate. From this I conclude that if the Kaminoans can alter the genes of a clone which regard their maturity rate, they obviously can alter a clones gender. Of course, it may be a longer procedure to produce a gender altering which is why the clones of Jango remain male. But it's possible to further hide Luke that that precaution was taken. Errr..dont ask why they didn't change Luke's last name. It was probably one of Kenobi's bright ideas to keep it Skywalker. And by that, I mean he doesn't have many.

Isurus the White

 

One night, Anakin and Amidala are alone when Anakin starts playing CDs of Frank Sinatra and Barry White . . .

. . . and the rest is history for GFFA.



Ok, I will be serious now.
I strongly suspect the only rolling in the hay of A/P on screen we will ever see is the AOTC meadow picnic, which by SW standards was rather suggestive.

GL has said that he is making these films in the style of 1930s-1940s films. Recall that the censors were rather strict in those days, yet in subtle ways, the filmmakers demonstated that the characters had slept together off-screen.

Subtle suggestions were in the OT, too. Han's line in ESB in the asteroid, "we don't have time for anything else" coupled with a devilish grin said much but in a way that would fly over the head of children.

Perhaps we will see A/P saying farewell after they have just clearly said farewell in ways other than words, and then Anakin joins Kenobi on the "damned fool crusade."

 

Gotta agree that Anakin does not find out he's a father until he finds out a young pilot named Skywalker destroyed the Death Star....

 

Recall that the censors were rather strict in those days, yet in subtle ways,...

As I understand it, the censors are even stricter now, believe it or not. There was this one old movie (I think it was a western) that a movie company had rescued from decay. They cleaned it up and were going to re-release it. For some reason, they had sent it back to the ratings board, which they didn't need to do. The ratings board changed the rating from R to NC-17. So, aparently the rating comittie, or whatever they are called, have become more strict over the years.

 

Malaki, first, welcome to the boards.

It is true that there was an era in early cinema before the censors. The ratings and censorship began to take force in the late 1920s and early 1930s.

 

I'd also assume a conception before Ep III and the birth during the latter part of the movie. I have an odd feeling Obi-Wan will be there for it, continuing with his protector role. Perhaps it will happen after the battle b/w Obi and Anakin when Anakin turns completely.

 

Well, since I think they're gonna be born in May of 2005, I think the twins are concieved about... August of 2004.
I believe Padme will start E3 pregnant, and have the kids at about the halfway point while Anakin is off fighting or something. I just cant see him being there for the birth. IMO, the birth will have to be during the movie, but it would have to be early on because they need to get at least a little bit of time in so we can believe that Leia remembers her mother. I think Padme will die in E3, so they cant build those memories (however vague) in books. We'll have to see it. It shouldnt be too much time that mother and daughter are together, but it has to be substantially more than Luke so their comments in ROTJ make sense.
IMO, This will all be very tough to do without a "2 years later" caption appearing at the start of the last third of the film.
I think after the kids are born the movie will split in two and we'll see the Journey of Luke to Dagobah and Tattooine, and Leia (with Padme) to Alderaan.

 

"Padme will already be on the run from Anakin from the beginning of the movie seeing as how anakin never knows of his offspring until after Ep4."

...Or he's away at battle. Of course, something must have happened to prevent her from telling him about it while he's away. Otherwise, she'd be telling him as soon as she knew (unless she wanted to wait until he got back. That's not impossible, either.)

Maybe he does know that Padme's pregnant. After seeing what kind of person Anakin is becoming, Padme delivers the children, but claims that she "lost the baby" to keep the kids safe. Anakin only knows of one, and thinks it is gone. (Otherwise, Vader would already know about the "twin")

This would help move the plot along, and provide more fuel for Anakin's rage. "I will bring people back from the dead", yet once again he has lost a "loved one."

"padme will hide the pregnancy from changing anakin."

But the problem is, if Ep.III starts off with Padme pregnant, and she is already trying to hide the pregnancy, then something very important ocurred to Anakin between AOTC and Ep.III. Last we saw, they were lovey-dovey. Now, we start off Ep.III with Padme running for her life from Anakin? That's one hell of a jump! Even when he killed all the Tusken raiders and their children, she still glossed over that little character flaw.

How will this dramatic change in their relationship be explained? Flashbacks?

"Gotta agree that Anakin does not find out he's a father until he finds out a young pilot named Skywalker"

...or he realizes that Padme lied to him, and understands the reason behind it (the Emperor, the Prophecy, etc,)

The only real problem with this (that I can see. I'm sure people will come up with others) is that it makes it even more risky to allow Luke to keep the Skywalker name. If Anakin doesn't know about any kids, then it's not too bad to hear of someone with a similar last name. If he believes that he might have had a kid, the Skywalker name would be a huge clue to him.

 

Maybe in the Star Wars universe Skywalker is a very common name like Smith is in ours?

 

"And since Ep. 3 will take place 5 years after AOTC, that means that they were concieved approximately 4 years after AOTC "

Actually Ep. 3 takes place exactly 3 years after AOTC. Supposedly, the time between the two movies is "real time". I personally think that Padme will be pregnant before Ep. 3 begins. Simply because Ep. 3 won't take place over a 9 month span. I belive that we'll see the twins be born, so Padme needs to be pretty well into the third tri-mester before the movie starts. But maybe since these ARE aliens, the gestation process is may be shorter than 9 months

Edit: And about Anakin not knowing that he's a father I totally disagree. How could you not know that you got you're wife knocked up? I mean eventually, you would start to notice something, she hasn't just been getting fatter for the past nine months

I think two possibilites occur after Vader realizes that it was his son that blew up the Death Star. Either (a)he thought his son had died somehow, and now he knows that his son is still alive or (b)he just didn't bother looking for his son(for whatever reason), and now is obsessed w/ finding him considering knowing that it was his son that blew up the death star

 

"How could you not know that you got you're wife knocked up? I mean eventually, you would start to notice something"

Not if you've been heavily involved in the Clone Wars for 3 years.

 

On that note, how do we know E3 won't span several months? It worked in ESB.

 

"Not if you've been heavily involved in the Clone Wars for 3 years. "

Well then he wouldn't even have time to get her knocked up

 

Well the problem is that Anakin is Force sensitive and would undoubtably feel the prescence of his children but because they are prenatal it would make sense if he doesn't know it is two children. I think Obi-Wan will whisk Luke off as soon as he is born and leave Leia with Padme. It is even possible that Vader will know about Leia and it is only later that Padme pulls her dissapearing/death act and it will be assumed that Leia died too. This gives plenty of opportunity for the rage over the death factor, for Vader not knowing he had a sun until the OT, for Leia remebering their mother, and for it to be safe for Luke to use the Skywalker name, which just might be as common as Jones or Antilles.

 

Best guess from me....
Padme will be pregnant at the start of III How they had time to do so will be irrelevant to the onscreen movie so no conception scene, this is star wars after all.

Anakin will know that she is pregnant of course but will not know that they are twins. He knows he has a son. The line in ESB was not an assumption by vader he didn't say Luke I may be your father pending a dna test. He said I AM your father.

Padme still pregnant sees the changes in anakin as does everyone else close to him. They realize his turn or potential to do so. Obi goes off to fight him and does him in. Padme is hidden the children are split up for thier protection from their evil father.

Now of course this assumes that we will know anakin is vader after III and that Padme goes with Leia in hiding to alderaan so that leia remembers her mother but her brother remembers nothing about Padme. Oh yeah and it also assumes that luke is not leias twin. Could be wrong but like I said its just a guess.

 

Wedding Night on Naboo... Anakin hasn't seen Amidala in two years, and she has kept this a secret from him... Anakin cannot get away from the war to visit, and Amidala cannot go public with the children... It would destroy them both.

 

Maybe Anakin knew he had a kid, but thought the child not VERY strong in the force. He could have thought that Leia was his kid or some other person not strong in the force.

But when he hears a Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star, he could think himself mistaken. I mean, how many people have the Force(Vader said in ANH "The force is strong with this one")and are good pilots named Skywalker are there. Plus, Vader had the Force.

He could, however, still suspect that there were 2 children. Do you honestly think Vader could read Luke's mind in ROTJ, and say "So you have a sister..." right out of the blue.

That's just my 2 cents though. ;^)

Oh, and Luke and Leia are concieved, I'd say, about 6 or 7 months before Episode III.