Who actually chose Jango as the clone template, Dooku or Palpy? And why?

We learned from Jango that he was hired by Tyranus, who is Count Dooku to be the template for the clone army. But this does not necessarily mean that Dooku was the person that actually chose him. It could have well been Sidious that desired Jango, and it was Dooku/Tyranus's job to hire him.

So on that note, did Dooku or Sidious actually choose Jango the bounty hunter as the template? And why was he chosen?

Now I know we will likely not know the answer to this question; however one can speculate and imagine who actually chose Jango between the two and why so.

Also, I wonder did Jango have a reputation already as a bounty hunter/warrior, and this is partly why he was chosen, or was he chosen after some sort of test/trial that he had perform along with other warriors?

Or maybe he was chosen because he had a personal hate for the Jedi that was known by Sidious or Dooku, and this would benefit the Sith, and assured he would agree to the job.

Nevertheless, I lean toward Dooku being the one to choose Jango for the clone template job, and maybe for one of two reasons. The AOTC Visual Dictionary lays out that Jango is the last of the Mandalorian race, of which the Jedi supposedly wiped out.

So besides being a great warrior in the tradition of the Mandalorians, Jango know doubt would want revenge against the Jedi order almost to the degree of the Sith; and so rest assured he would want to be apart of anything that would bring about their end. Count Dooku being as wise and powerful as he is in the Force, and no doubt very knowledgeable of the galaxy was able to find Jango and offer him this job.

But I also have another theory in which Dooku is the one who chooses Jango. It is clear that Jango hates the Jedi, whether he actually is the last Mandalorian and desires revenge or not. In AOTC, we learned that Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas was "killed" almost or near 10 years before the events of AOTC.

What if Jango killed/murdered Sifo-Dyas, and Dooku was assigned by the Jedi Council to find his killer? So during the time of TPM, Dooku is on the mission of finding Sifo-Dyas killer. But just as he is about to apprehend Jango, he gets the news that Qui-Gon, his former apprentice and friend has been killed. All the events during this time with the invasion of Naboo, and how the Senate operates, the Jedi's role and Qui-Gon's death are the last straw for him and he leaves the Jedi order. Very soon after he joins Sidious and becomes the Sith Lord Tyranus, and he and Sidious form their plans for war, and the plan for clones. Dooku tells his Master, I know just the man who be fitting for the clone template. A bounty hunter known as Jango Fett. Jango hates the Jedi, and he killed Master Sifo-Dyas.

Lastly, it is possible that Jango had to prove himself worthy for the job, and so he kills Sifo-Dyas, and thus got the job.

"Always a pleasure to meet a Jedi"


Darth Sin!

 

I think your theory is the most popular one regarding the heirarchy between Palpatine, Dooku and Jango.

Palpatine entrusted Dooku to find a proper template for a clone army. He let Dooku do his thing, with the intentions of eventually ruling over the army that Dooku would be entrusted to help start.

Dooku could target Sifo-Dyas for murder. He has 3 finalists for the job, and Jango, the last one standing, finishes the job in such a way the Jedi can't determine who did it. So I think it was Dooku who had the final choice for who would be the clone army template.

The next step may be a little more tricky. Jango could then approach the Kaminoans independently, saying he's been ordered by the Jedi Council and Sifo-Dyas to be the template for a clone army. Since the Kaminoans are somewhat isolated from the rest of the galaxy, they would be blissfully unaware that Dyas is dead at that time.

Another question is would Jango be aware of Dooku and Palpatine's eventual intentions for ths army? I say he isn't. Palpatine is pulling all the strings, Dooku pulling many of them, and Jango is just a pawn like the rest of them.

The complexity of this issue is fun to dissect and think about, and for me, holds a lot of the appeal AOTC has.

 

The Bounty Hunter game covers this area.
This thread has a writeup of the story.

 

EXCELLENT Ideas Darth Sin!

Jango Fett Rules.

I'd say it was "a man called Tyranus" who hired Jango who had SOME dealings with him to want to choose him as an applicable warrior. Your theories are Great.

We won't know the Syfo-Dyas theory for sure until a couple more years... Episode III.

 

If you accept the bounty hunter game, it's all Dooku. Sidious tells him to the template and Jango wins the contest.

 

consider this point from the dvd.starwars.com text commentary:

The script elaborates that Jango never knew of any Jedi involvement in the commissioning of the clone army; the Kaminoans kept it a secret from him, as instructed by Sifo-Dyas.

This makes sense then, when Jango replies "Master Who?" to Obi-Wan's question. His only contact is Tyranus. So I'm not sure if the Jango-is-in-on-the-army-to-destroy-the-Jedi theory flies. Remember, "apart from his pay, which is considerable, Fett demanded only one thing: an unaltered clone for himself." Like most if not all bounty hunters, Fett thinks of himself first. Would he submit to the long process of cloning just for revenge? I'm not so sure. Would he do it for money, and a son? Absolutely.

I do relish the theory that he may have had to hit Sifo-Dyas to prove himself worthy to the Sith.

 

Excellent pot Darth Sin --

As others have said, my interpretation of the film is that Dooku did it himself. Palpatine probably would not have thought of Jango anyway, as Jango is not Force-sensitive, and Palpatine has better things to do than track down bounty hunters.

Funny though... that Dooku would approach Jango with his Sith name rather than his civilian title "COUNT Dooku"...



Rick McCallum loves you!

 

I think the Star Wars: Bounty Hunter game covers the bases extremely well.

 

Excellent pot Darth Sin

Nice fruedian slip, Adam

 

I tend to believe that it was probably Dooku(Tyrranus) who was the one who hired Jango.

Darth Banal- I think that Jango knows exactly what is going on. That the clones might be intended on taking out the Jedi. He despises Jedi. His line to Ben "it's always a pleasure to meet a jedi". I take this to mean he has had a confrontation or two with Jedi's. He knows that he can't take them all out so why not let his "children" do it for him.

Just a theory

 

Well if you're into EU, the comic book Jango Fett: Open Seasons explains that all fully. I think the guy who wrote that miniseries also wrote the script for the Bounty Hunter video game.

 

AOTC Hardcover, Pg 211.

"Who was the original?"

"A bounty hunter named Jango Fett" Lama Su offered without any hesitation. "We felt that a Jedi would be the perfect choice, but Sifo-Dyas handpicked Jango himself."

So that should answer that.




EDIT- Add to that what we know from the EU (as mentioned above) and a bunch of other little coincidences and once again, IMO, we are left with 2 cold hard facts.

Count Dooku IS Sifo-Dyas

and

Germans love David Hasselhoff.

 

I do agree that Dooku picked Jango himself, and it was his assignment from Sidious to find the best and most suitable clone template.

However, Sidious/Palpy could have known about Jango(not necessarily knew him personally), via reputation and told Dooku to find and hire him for the job.

But nevertheless, I wonder why Jango was chosen?

It is my guess that Dookum due to his own hatred now for the Jedi order, may have let Jango in on the fact that eventually his clones would help wipe out the Jedi. And, if Jango was the last of Mandalorian race,a nd the Jedi were responsible, Dooku could have played on this and told Jango, that if he becamethe template for the clones, they would carry revenge for the Mandalorian race against the Jedi.

"They'll do their job well, I guarantee it"! Maybe he said this knowing in the very near future they would do well in wiping out the Jedi order.


Darth Sin!

 

In the open seasons comic Dooku says to Sidious, "Our search for the prime clone is nearly complete. The galaxy's most dangerous mercenaries have been pitted against one another and I sense the victor will be a bounty hunter named Jango Fett...."
It goes on from there but thats the basics. IMO, That seems like a pretty good explanation of how & why he was chosen. I like it. I dont know if its canon, but its good enough for me. Its published.

In regards to Jango having any reason to want to be involved, I would think money and a son would be enough. Plus, referring back to the earlier post from the dvd.starwars.com text commentary:

The script elaborates that Jango never knew of any Jedi involvement in the commissioning of the clone army; the Kaminoans kept it a secret from him, as instructed by Sifo-Dyas.

I dont think Jango had any knowledge the Jedi would be involved at any point, in any way. If anything, he may have discovered that the army was supposed to be for the republic which would put them fighting with the Jedi.

I think he got recruited by Sifo-Dyas, I mean Dooku, I mean Tyranus with little to no knowledge (or care) of the armies purpose because he was offered and paid a considerable amount of credits, got a son, and went back to bounty hunting.

 

Sin,

I agree. As I stated earlier, Jango knows what the clones are intended for. Aside from the Jedi, bounty hunters would be the next logical choice for a clone template.

Jag