Who cried when Mace Windu died?

Anakin was arrogant, reckless and thought he could walk on water. "You underestimate my power!" He thought he was as good as Yoda. The fact that Anakin wouldn't run from anyone is why he got his just desserts... carved up and burned. Mace is indeed more skilled than Anakin. Anakin's emotions and such get in the way of his potential. Anakin's the flawed, arrogant one.
Anakin is the "arrogant wannabe Jedi." Sounds like someone doesn't like Mace.
Mace isn't a wannabe. He's the head of the Jedi Council.
Anakin was an emotionally wounded individual, who believed the hype. And he was rude, cocky enough to question the Jedi Council, on more than one occasion.

 

Well I guess Qui-Gon was "Rude and cocky" since he also questioned the Jedi Council.
Being on the council does not make you great. Qui-Gon also was not on the council, and he was still a great Jedi. The council was arrogant and clueless.
Mace was a senior member of the council, not "the head" of the council.
If that title should go to anyone it would be yoda.
I already said I don't really have a problem with Mace, but he did have some serious attitude problems. (*HE* can have an attitude but not Anakin?)

"Anakin's emotions and such get in the way of his potential..." Hmmmm.
Looks like Mace's "emotions" got in the way also. That is why he WENT AGAINST THE JEDI CODE and tried to kill an unarmed prisoner. Talk about arrogant. He thought he could go against the code to suit his purpose but Anakin could not?? Um, okay.

Mace IS the "ARROGANT WANNABE JEDI". sounds like someone just doesn't like The Chosen One.

Mace more skilled than Anakin? Mace not flawed??

 

Not me

 

Again, this story is about Anakin's fall. he didn't respect the Jedi leadership. Not one of them. Because of his ego. He thought he was on par with them. He thought he was better than Obi-Wan. It was Anakin's arrogance and emotional wounds that led to his downfall. He thought he was all powerful.
People want to like/love Anakin. they see the Council as the enemy. Such thoughts are misplaced. Anakin's the traitor. Anakin turns on the Jedi, kills them, and even kills the Younglings.
and, not to start this debate yet again, but Palpatine was NOT unarmed.
Now, if you and others don't want to see Anakin as the traitor, so be it. But the Star Wars movies basically track Anakin's fall, his deal with the devil, and his eventual redemption.
You don't have to like Mace, that's fine, we all have our favorite characters, but don't distort what's in the movies to try to bolster your misplaced claims that Mace is somehow the bad guy in this. Flawed? All the characters are. But, again, it was Anakin who brought about the downfall of the Jedi. And yes, Yoda, being the leader of the Jedi, didn't bring them into the times. He himself lamented that.
Again, if Mace succeeded, there very well wouldn't have been any Galactic Empire.

 

Again, if one is a senior member of the Jedi Council, I don't see how you can say he's a wannabe.
Anakin was appointed by Palpatine to the Council, he was more of a wannabe if you want to use such wording.
I will say what I said in another post, this story is about Anakin's fall, his deal with the devil, and eventual redemption.
And, just to let you know, simply taking my words and turning them around on me isn't a very mature way of debating.
Anakin wasn't in charge. He should have been more humble, and not believing the hype about him. He wasn't on par with Yoda, Mace or even Obi-Wan. That was all in his mind.
People conveniently leave out events in the movies to further their view that Mace is the bad guy. They say Palpatine was unarmed, when Palpatine is NEVER unarmed as long as he has those lightning powers, and remember, it was Palpatine who killed three "policemen" and that's why Mace went after. If we're talking about people SHOULD do, well, Palpatine SHOULD have allowed himself to be arrested.
Imagine if Palpatine is the President, and he kills three official deputies who come to arrest him. President or not, he's now a criminal, a felon, a murderer.
And worse than that, you have found out that the President is actually, say, the leader of one of the United States' enemy countries. And now he's just killed three sheriffs.
If you don't see it that way, that's fine, but that's ultimately what the Jedi were up against.
And Anakin helped the

 

Didn't cry at all. I thought Mace should have kept his eyes open. He didn't even sense Anakin's betrayal?

 

I actually laughed. Before they made the movie Samuel Jackson told Lucas he didnt want his character to go out like a b*tch and in the end his character did. haha

 

Not a single tear. I just watched him crisp and fly away....

 

I actually laughed.

It's even funnier in the ROTS Playstation video game.

 

How do you figure? He fought the Emperor to a standstill, disarming him. Then he was betrayed by the chosen one and blasted out of the window with the most impressive display of force lightning in the saga. He went out like a champ. He just got screwed over. But he didn't go out like a punk. Agen Kolar went out like a punk. Aalya Secura went out like a punk. Mace put down the dark lord of the Sith. Now if it weren't for that PUNK Anakin...

 

I have to praise MysticalMaceWindu for his efforts to defend Mace's character, but alas, I fear it is in vain.
Some people just don't like the character, and make up all sorts of nonexistent flaws Mace supposedly had to support it, when at the end of the day they should just confess they didn't like the character and be done with it. All these claims about Mace's arrogance. I am sorry, but I don't see being an authority figure within the Jedi order and hence act with a sort of "air of command" is equivalent to being arrogant. Actually, arrogance is the trait Anakin shows when he talks about his power. Expecting a certain amount of maturity from Anakin and displaying disappointment in him when he does not show it is not arrogance. Anakin's outburst when he wasn't granted the position of a master was totally inappropriate for the dispassionate ways that a Jedi is supposed to embrace. Mace was stern to him there, but rightfully so.

And as for the finishing blow Mace tried to deliver to Palpatine, guess what, I think Mace did the right thing. I don't see how Palpatine was unarmed. Had he been, Mace would be alive. Some say that Mace thought Palpatine was unarmed. How do you know that? We know Anakin thought so, but not that Mace did.

And last I checked the movies, it was Anakin who turned dark, not Mace. Mace's allegiance to the light side all the way to the end is unquestionable. Frankly, Mace didn't die because he deserved it as some of you imply, because he most clearly did not deserve it (there are lots and lots of characters who deserve that way more). It was a tragic death, with a noble soul getting killed because a greedy, narcissistic young man puts his selfish desires before the loyalty to all that is good, and all he has sworn loyalty to.

That said, I didn't cry when he died, because I was prepared for it.

 

Agreed. Well said.

 

Right on, very well said. I fully agree.

 

I agree with you there, Mace did not deserve to die.

 

YoshiFett and MacetheCouncillor, once again I agree with you both 100%.

Violetsaber

 

Of course Mace deserved to die. He was cocky and blind,
happy to be lead around by his nose by the Chancellor.

Look, you mean to tell me that they know, KNOW, that
Jango was on both sides.
They know Jango was the clone prototype
and they know that Jango was in league with Dooku,
and they know that Dooku was in league with a Sith Lord.
And it never, ever occured to Mace that there
might be a connection to the clone template being on both sides?

Mace has been a foil of Anakin's since TPM.

You sense a plot to destroy the Jedi?
Well no kidding. You've only known the Sith have been
around for 13 years, lurking and striking from the shadows.
Do you think they were coming to make amends? Bury the hatchet?

It's like Julius Caesar saying "I sense a plot to destroy Caesar"
on the Ides of March.

Mace is not a sypmathetic character. He's a hardass.
Maybe he should have taken Anakin with him from the get go.
Or, better yet, gotten the hell off Coruscant.

He led 3 other Jedi to their demise.
The prophecy says, by their own understanding, only the chosen one can destroy
the sith and bring balance. Who does he take?
3 not-chosen one Jedi. And they all die. Wholesale.

No, no. Mace's demise was the warmest, fuzziest scene in the film...

 

CRZA that post brought a tear to me eye.

 

Not me, I can't stand Mace Windu.

 

I didn't cry, but I was shocked. Shocked in a good way that is, I couldn't believe what I was watching, it was possibly one of the best scenes in any of the SW movies. To this day, everytime I hear Mace Say "You have lost my lord", and Sidious goes "Noooo...Nooooo....NOOOOOO", I can't hold back the laughs, awesome, and funny at the same time.

 

Its like Mace hated Anakin. I don't know why.If Mace was more nice to Anakin mabe Anakin could have helped Mace.

 

LOL, me too. I never thought I'd go into ROTS with a beef aganist the Jedi, but after Yoda's advice to Anakin and the way Mace acted, it really did hit me that the Jedi may have needed a catastrophic event to put things back into their proper focus, as Obi-Wan and Yoda later saw. Star Wars really is an equal opportunity morality tale.

 

Well, at least you recognize that Yoda and his half-witted advice to Anakin had something to do with Anakin's turn...I get a real kick out of fanboys who act like Yoda telling Anakin to rejoice when his wife dies was the height of wisdom.



Violetsaber

 

Ain't that the truth. Old Georgie boy's genius writing for the PT turned the wisest Jedi Master into a chin-scratching, useless, inept moron. Toddler dialouge, Frank Oz's wild voice fluctuations, and a cartoonish CGI appearance - which is so phony looking in comparison to his realistic muppet incarnation - are the reasons why I don't even recognize PT Yoda and Yoda from the OT as being one in the same. Their complete diametric opposites in every facet. "Apples and oranges we are not."

 

I get a real kick out of fanboys who act like Yoda telling Anakin to rejoice when his wife dies was the height of wisdom.

I'm just as critical of the Jedi in the PT as anyone,
but in all fairness, Yoda did not know Anakin was married.
Thus your analysis exaggerates Yoda's error.

I agree that it was a mistake to just tell him to
rejoice for the death of a loved one and train
himself to let go. Train himself?
What have the Jedi been doing for the last 13 years?