Who else feels AOTC has suffered a worse fate than it deserves?

If nothing else, we get to see Padme running around all 'scantily-clad' and hot =)

Seriously though, first movie she just wears baggy all-covering dresses, the third movie she's pregnant. Not as good as Leia as Jabba's slave, but definitely worthwhile.

Hmm...am I a terrible person?

 

My biggest problem with AOTC is the depth of story or lack there of. It's an ok film. But, it never makes it past that point.

 

No, Kalphite, you're not a terrible person.

But the person who designed that sports bra/spandex outfit is, THANK GOD!!!

 

In answer to the thread question: that's what it means to be a scapegoat for TPM.

 

All things considered and while not perfect, I guess AOTC is my fav SW movie so I do agree it's underrated.

 

(Cool, my thread's back...)

As it turns out, I just watched all 3 prequels last night for the first time in a while...and in a way I came out of it feeling (again) like AOTC has a similar feel to ESB, this dark, foreboding middle episode...the only difference being of course they lead into drastically different part 3's...

I mean, ROTS is IMO basically the best prequel, but sometimes it's almost too depressing, whereas AOTC is still fun, and still dark...

 

I think that it doesn't deserve all of the critisism that it gets. The first time that I saw AOTC, I fell in love with the story line. Nothing seemed out of place... untill I started to read reviews, that is. Once you read a review of a movie that you really like that slams it completely, it's just not the same watching it again. Going back and seeing everything that the review listed as a down side just ruined it for me.

 

To me ATOC never come close to ESB. Maybe that because they were directed by 2 different guy's. But, Epi.III comes close to ESB.

 

But ROTS and TESB were directed by two different guys...

 

That's a very good point. I know so many people who are completely oblivious to reviews and Internet forums..they just like what they like and are often shocked to discover that certain movies are critically derided. I feel weak for allowing the opinions of others affect my enjoyment of the Prequels. I had a blast watching Episode II in the theatre...and IIRC most people on this forum did too.

Welcome to the Forums MasterJane423

 

I mean, ROTS is IMO basically the best prequel, but sometimes it's almost too depressing, whereas AOTC is still fun, and still dark...


I think that AOTC is a slightly better film than ROTS. And I think it's just as good as ESB.

 

They were indeed. It felt like Lucas tried to match ESB in Epi.III.

 

I go back and forth on which ones I like better than which others, I have to admit. (I think lots of SW fans do, so I don't feel too bad about it.)

Anyway I was only occasionally on these boards in '02, but yeah, I remember it being generally being common to rave about AOTC at the time. As for comparing ROTS with ESB, I don't know, they're the darkest episode in their respective trilogies, but they don't feel that similar to me, as much as I love them both. ROTS might be similar to what ROTJ would've been if Palpatine had succeeded in converting Luke to the dark side, maybe, just a crazy thought. Of course that would probably be too much similarity.

 

Why, thank you.

I also have a bit of a problem with letting the opinions of others affect my enjoyment of the Prequels. This is why I can barely stand coming to threads made for people to post their own opinions of the movies. A lot of people don't realize that some of the things they post are better left kept to themselves.

 

^ Definitely. Focusing on the negative makes noone happy.
Spread joy, not sorrow!

I recently re-read my old posts from the time when AOTC premiered. I completely adored that movie back then! In the years that followed, my love for it was smudged by the negativity that flooded the JC. Some Clones-lovers persisted, but I couldn't help but reevaluate the film as sceptical fans strongly questioned the merits of certain actors, the writing of certain scenes or the overall editing of the piece.
I'm very happy that I made this venture into the past, though, because I rediscovered my initial love for AOTC and nowadays, I appreciate the PT as a whole much more than ever before. I've stopped wishing that certain aspects of it were different - Instead, I enjoy the strengths of those aspects.
Lucas may not have approached this trilogy the way some of us had expected him to - In some ways, it is drastically different from the OT. The way I see it, though, it's all for the better, because what we got was a consistent movie series of great diversity, which gives me great enjoyment.

Attack of the Clones rocks!





Make love, not war
/LM

 

Not to sound rude or come across as a complete jerk, but anyone who is easily swayed by others people opinions that easily is either not to smart, weak, or naive. Take for example a recent film that was released that got critically panned was Amelia starring Hilary Swank, I absolutely loved that movie and I don't need anyone telling me I am wrong, and I don't need anyone telling me that I am incorrect in my opinion the Lord of the Rings films are complete garbage. Honestly how insecure must someone be to make a 180 degree turn on their opinion? The reason I don't have much respect for the general public is how they are so easily manipulated or swayed by the general media and we live in a society in which independent thought is discouraged. I'm not saying that I don't read reviews about movies; we would all be lying if we didn't, and I only like to see how their opinion differed from mine. I can never trust critics I always feel they have an agenda they are not honestly written, I found often many critics had a complete disdain for Star Wars fans and how much of a cult phenomenon it is. They also take every opportunity to express their disdain for Lucas, honestly the quality I most admire about Lucas was him going against Hollywood and having complete control of his own franchise and not any studio head tell him what direction he should take with his movies. I also love the fact that no Star Wars movie has any critic?s quotes on the VHS/DVD covers. Star Wars sells itself and doesn't need any bought off critical praise to sell.

 

Amen!

I don't think 180 degree turns on this issue are very common, though. Sure, I have come across fans who have made a 180 on some of the prequels and they were most likely quite insecure individuals, but I think that what we're discussing here is those instances where someone might express their disdain for, say, the acting in the fireplace scene and one goes: "Hmm, now that I think about it, you know what? The acting in that scene might actually not be what I would hope for. Perhaps a less stilted feel and a bit more warmth from the actors would've been better."
It's not that you suddenly hate the scene in question, but you begin to question things that you didn't really think about before and before you know it, your enjoyment of the film has diminished somewhat. You start to think about what you would have preferred to what you got and in doing so, you begin to create your own disappointments - which is, of course, quite unnecessary. You get blinded by your own visions, which makes it very hard for you to fully enjoy something that you used to be perfectly happy with.
In the end, I have noone but myself to blame for tainting my love for the film, so perhaps I have been somewhat insecure. I don't know. All I know is that on May 16 2002, I loved every second of AOTC and on December 2 2009, I love it just as much!





Love - it's lovely
/LM

 

Agreed! I don't think anyone is talking about a complete 180 on a film...just that a constant bombardment of criticism can sometimes make you question your own judgement. The PT bashing often made me wonder if my love of SW had blinded me and that I couldn't watch a SW film objectively. I adored TPM in 1999, but then I started to hear moaning with regards to the acting, the sluggish pace of the 2nd act etc, etc. So it was only inevitable that during future viewings I would ponder these complaints and try to see if they were in any way valid. I still love TPM to this day, but these "issues" that are quite commonly heard do still intrude on my thought process as I watch...I can't help it!!?? Maybe I am weak minded. The same is true with regards to near universal praise..I think Lord of the Rings is dreary, overlong and pretentious...yet I'm told that it is a masterpiece. So I'll watch it with high expectations..trying, straining, to connect with the allegedly untouchable fantasy epic within. I'll make more of an effort with LotR because I've read countless testimonies of it greatness, than I would with say Battlefield Earth.

I've not explained myself very well & have gone off topic.

 

I try to care as little about critics as I possibly can, or general public reaction, but I suppose it's only inevitable that when you hear so much talk of "what a piece of ****" that movie was, it's bound to decrease your enjoyment a little; I've certainly had that happen with me with TPM and AOTC. On the other hand, the defensiveness has a tendency to turn around: I can't tell you how many times I've said out loud during a viewing of TPM or AOTC "this is just a good, good movie", half before realizing I've said it. As in, I can't believe I ever questioned it.

 

Guys let's remember the Fans/Films rule. Padmes Love Slave, your post really violates that rule.

Discuss the films, not the fans who post here. If your comment is directed at a user or a group of users, just don't post it. It could lead to waters that are better left unsailed. Treat your fellow fans with respect, even if you disagree vehemently with them.

 

Agreed.

 

I know the feeling of thinking I couldn't watch them objectively, that I only liked them because I loved Star Wars to begin with. But that's just nagging doubt. With AOTC I usually get rid of that around the time Obi-Wan jumps through the glass. Sometimes earlier.

 

For me it's not a nagging doubt so much as a firm certainty. About once a year I re-watch the PT to try to change my mind on that count, to no avail.

I wouldn't bother, but I guess I keep letting my thinking be affected by the opinions on this board.

 

While I commend your efforts I would just iterate that such an experience is by no means universal, and such a "firm certainty", as you name it, is anything but for many others.

To add some balance, I can say that I rewatch the PT about once a year and consistently enjoy it...paradoxical...

 

Actually, I tend to enjoy the PT more than I do the OT lately. I don't know why. I happen to love both trilogies equally. But I suspect that might change one day. Who knows?