Who is the best Sith apprentice??...Darth Maul, Count Dooku, or Darth Vader?

Lord Vader even if he did not last long before the suit.

 

Definately not Dooku. He was a bad fighter

What? It took nothing less than the two best Jedi in the galaxy at their prime to beat him. If anything, Dooku was the best dueler of the three Sith apprentices. But he lacked the power of the not-quite-Darth Anakin, and that's why he lost.

Each apprentice had his uses. Maul was an obedient, trained attack dog with the power to terrify. Dooku, a fellow planner who could oversee a grand army and deceive just as Sidious could. Vader, a combination of Maul's obedience terror-inspiring presence and Dooku's military plotting ability.

 

Exactly which is why vader is the best because he was the ultimate apprentice. He had all of the skills of the two prior to him and was more powerfull with the force even in the suit then both of them.

 

Vader was more powerful than Maul or Tyrannus, but he was mentally weaker than both of them. Maul seems like the kind of person who became Sith because he loved being evil and wanted to perfect his skill. Tyrannus seems like he wanted to rule the galaxy alongside Sidious. Vader was too attached to Padme, and only joined the Sith in order to save her. When she died he seemed like kind of a lost soul, stuck with a Sith heart and a crippled body, but always secretly regretting his decision. But Vader was relentless, as we saw in TESB. When he was determined to capture the Falcon, nothing stood in his way. An outstanding Sith quality!

 

Vader, he kills all those Jedi at the Temple and hes the stronger and coolest.

 

http://www.atomfilms.com/af/content/sith_apprentice

The questions is answered!! Honestly I just think that video is funny, especially the last lines.

 

*Maul was incredibly loyal.
*Dooku was very intelligent and helpful.
*Vader was very powerful.

*Maul was raised as a Sith from childhood so he lived about 20-25 years.
*Dooku lasted between the end of TPM and the start of ROTS so he was an apprentice for about 13 years.
*Vader lived for around 24 years as a Sith Apprentice.

I'd say they're all about equal.

 

Vader is the best hands down. Suit or no suit.

 

odviously vader is better than dooku he killed him! and i think vader would probably be able to own maul as well, i mean i just think vader is a better fighter than maul with or without the suit, i say vader hands down

 

Darth Maul all the way, i think he is the best fighter out of all of them

 

Maul

 

Darth Maul was the best apprentice, hands down. He could have beat Vader and Dooku. Maul was obedient, completely evil, powerful, and a great fighter. Dooku was old, not completely obedient, had a messed up lightsaber, was not completely evil, plus he was a jedi at first. Also, he wasn't all that powerful. Vader before the suit was powerful, but he wasn't really evil-he just wanted to save Padme. Plus, he wasn't loyal to Sidious, and he had emotional problems. Maul was the best apprentice-Duh!

 

okay, in terms of being palpy's sith apprentice, anakin/vader wins hands down. why? because...

- he betrayed his own master for the dark side
- he killed jedis for the dark side
- he chopped off mace's hand to save palpatine
- he betrayed his very own order to serve palpatine
- he practically gave himself to palps at the end of epIII

so yeah...apprentice-ship wise, he was the best

 

Alright, for the record, let it be known that Vader, as in The Man In The Suit, never fought, let alone killed Dooku. Anakin in his prime mopped the floor with Dooku, but Vader wasn't nearly as powerful in the suit. I'm not trying to say that Dooku would beat Vader, and I'm not going to say that anyone would definitely beat anyone else, I just don't like to see Dooku get hated on.

Dooku lovers everywhere, get on your feet!

 

Dooku could have definately beat Vader in the suit, and I believe Maul could have too (if you don't take lightning, force chokes, etc into account). Anakin, at the moment he bows before Sidious and pledges his loyalty to him, has the greatest POTENTIAL of any Sith apprentice. However, he is soon crippled and deformed, and I believe the death of Padme drives him mad. He was destroyed by the death of his mother, he was obsessed with saving Padme, then was later obsessed with finding and turning his son.

He had so much ability, but his focus was on those around him, rather than his own training. That was his weakness because he should have channeled that focus towards Palpatine (but hey, who could chose an old man over Padme, right?). Dooku turned too late in life, and was trying to betray Sidious almost immediately, probably because he knew he needed to find an apprentice soon or he himself would be replaced. He had the best of both worlds: a lifetime's worth of Jedi training and knowledge, and the teachings of Sidious to further polish his skill. Age was the only thing that kept him from being the greatest Sith apprentice.

Maul was almost perfect, he just bit off more than he could chew before he was ready. One on one, he was more than a match for most Jedi. He was focused purely on his training, and from what the movies portrayed he was absolutely loyal to Sidious (probably too young to even consider taking his own apprentice). He was never "corrupted" by Jedi teachings, and had no outside attachments. Sidious was his life. It would have been interesting to see him in a few years, but he was overconfident.

In summary, all 3 apprentices had great potential, so it's hard to pick one. It would have been interesting to see how each apprentice turned out had they lived indefinately.

 

s_l is correct.

though vader was the most powerful(in the movie), he betrayed his master, AND KILLED HIM, in the end.

maul is just a badass fighter, and probabaly would rival even anakin if he had lived to ep3.

and dooku, well he's just pethedic


so best apprentice would definitally would be darth maul cause he was pure sith.

 

s_r is correct.

though vader was the most powerful(in the movie), he betrayed his master, AND KILLED HIM, in the end.

maul is just a badass fighter, and probabaly would rival even anakin if he had lived to ep3.

and dooku, well he's just pethedic


so best apprentice would definitally would be darth maul cause he was pure sith.

 

Definitely not Maul. He was all show but fairly inconsequential. Vader had a long reign and was dominant during the years of the Empire, but he didn't have jedi to contend with like Dooku did. Dooku was extremely influential. Without him Sidious wouldn't have been able to create the "enemy" needed to give him the grounds to build his power.
I'd go with Vader by a nose from Dooku, with Maul a distant third.

ps Vader easily if he hadn't been scorched and suited.

 

Also remember that Vader had the support of the entire clone army when he stormed the temple, and ruled the galaxy mostly because of the imperial resources he had. Had Maul walked in the Jedi temple with a battalion of clones, he would have produced the same result as Anakin. Dooku was persuasive, but also enjoyed the protection of the entire seperatist movement and millions of battle droids.

Maul was a true lone wolf, and did the best he could with what he had. He relied on the few toys he had (ship, speeder, sword, probe droids, etc), his skills, and whatever intelligence/orders Sidious had gifted him. Sidious had big plans for Dooku and Anakin, so of course they achieved high positions of power. They turned as Sidious was getting closer to achieving his ambition, so they were in command of armies, leading movements, acting as politicians and generals as much as members of an esoteric warrior sect.

Maul would have been able to lead a seperatist movement or run the empire, given time (imagine him standing behind Tarkin on the Death Star, or forging the seperatist coalition on Geonosis).

 

well said, sith_rising !

hmmm...is it just me, or was dooku the only sith apprentice in the prequel trilogy who openly proclaimed his impending betrayal of his master? ("join me, obiwan, and together --- blahblah").

as for the other two...

first off, we all know that the reason why anakin joined the dark side was 1. to save padme 2. he really became friends with the chancellor and cared about the old fool. so betraying the emperor was probably the last thing in his mind, until episode 4.

maul on the other hand, just followed sidious' orders like a dog on a leash. also, we don't know much about him and his true intentions so he's practically a blank slate. we just know he hates the jedis and wants revenge x.x!

 

Maul, Vader was a bit too cocky in ROTS.

 

Maul pure and simple!

Vader was a confused child, with incredible powers, nothing more! He never grew up and took responsibility for his actions, if he didn?t like something he pouted and complained about it, and then because he wasn?t man enough to fight a battle that might not go exactly as he wanted (His wife?s death) he quit and took the easy way out and joined the dark side in his temper tantrums.

Dooku was a twit, who was manipulated since the very start, he was so proud and so arrogant that he thought he was in control.

 

the yhing is Tyrannus and Vader both WERE jedi. they still have some of that training left in them. Maul was raised from birth to be a sith. he might not be as force powerful but he is a better saber fighter and he is WAY more loyal.

 

The best was Maul. Vader was probably more powerful, but he was damaged goods, both mentally and (very soon after turning) physically. He is unstable and is ultimately proven to be untrustworthy.
Plus, he has baggage (kids) which weaken his commitment to the Sith.

My favourite, however, is Tyranus. He is a great character. I also love that fact that he was older than Sidious and yet still his apprentice.

 

Maul is the apprentice I would have prefered, because he had no ambition and was the most loyal. Atleast this is true from the footage. Who knows what the backstory would tell us. But from what i understand, Maul was raised from near birth by Sidious so the natural progression of Apprentice to Master would be pretty secure from Sidious' perspective. Besides Maul was just an Apprentice and hadn't truly seasoned yet. Dooku was always intended to be a fall guy and Vader is too conflicted. He's already betrayed the Jedi so betrayal is part of his character. This would only be enhanced when one takes away compassion and charity.

Actually I think I'd have Leia as my Apprentice. What better than a hard nosed, iron willed, black bikini clad, red saber wielding hottie to strike down my foes