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Who will deal jacen the fatal blow?

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  1. Darth_Napoleon_MN

    Darth_Napoleon_MN Jedi Master star 1

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    Why would Jacen Solo need to be redeemed? He is the greatest Sith to ever live. But to answer the question no one will kill Jacen.
     
  2. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    *sigh* :oops: It's not the right question. What will Jacen's end be? That might be a better question. But I seriously doubt he's going to get killed at the end of the series. This is supposed to be his hero's journey completed, going off of what the crew said at the announcement at C3 and shortly afterward. It very well could end with his death, but it also very easily could end differently. As I noted before (!) there are probably still several major plot twists ahead. Don't jump to conclusions so quickly.

    EDIT: Havac - yeah. That's what I've been thinking, too. Any best it might actually be... Jacen?

    - Keralys
     
  3. princess_of_naboo

    princess_of_naboo Jedi Master star 4

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    Cade! [/Darth Krayt = Jacen Solo believer]

    Maybe he could get trapped while flow walking.

    Jaina seems like a likely candidate. Finally, the YV will have their twin fight to the death. :p
     
  4. RipleysSoul

    RipleysSoul Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This isn't just Jacen's series. The writers at c3 made it clear that it was Jaina, Jacens, and Ben's journey too. Jaina is also going to find herself so to speak, plus Ben will continue to grow. But the point is, Jacen can't be given a free pass after what he has done up to this point regardless of the rest of the series. I like the idea of Jacen getting pawned at the end - an Ewok will do just fine. Or Jar Jar. "Me thinks I just killed Jacen Solo!"
     
  5. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Would you stop reading my mind?
     
  6. Jedi_Knight88

    Jedi_Knight88 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Perhaps Jacen simply stumbles backwards, impaling himself on the pointy tip of K'Kruhk's freakin' sweet hat.

     
  7. killfire

    killfire Jedi Master star 4

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    I would like to see Jacen being stripped of the force first - let him live without his force powers, exiled from the Jedi order a couple of years. Then he gets killed either by a relative of one of the Corellians he tortured, or run over by an air taxi.
     
  8. Bodknocks

    Bodknocks Jedi Youngling star 2

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    [face_laugh]
     
  9. Ataro_Soresu

    Ataro_Soresu Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think the Ulic Qel-Droma treatment would definitely be the way to go with Jacen. That way, he has the rest of his life (or until someone restores the Force to him) to contemplate how he abused the power he was given.


    Seeing that Vergere's not around, maybe Mara could do it, seeing as how she's a descendant of Nomi Sunrider. ;) Or maybe Leia should do it. She had that encoutner with Vima-da-Boda way back in DE. It'd be like the ultimate spanking.

     
  10. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm well aware of that. He is, however, clearly the center of it. Or do you think it mere coincidence that his POV time has dramatically exceeded that of anyone else in the series thus far? Yes, it is others' series, but Jacen is the protagonist, not any of the others.
    Only if you stop reading mine as well. Why is reason in such short supply, anyway? Honestly, the hatred of Jacen is quite irrational. I certainly cannot abide his actions, and I think the fellow needs to be shocked back to his senses. But the despising of him is just... odd.

    Why can't people just let the story develop and not decide they know where it has to be going? *sighs*

    - Keralys
     
  11. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    interesting point on the death of Lumiya -- who does it may give a signal about Jacen's fate. If Jacen does it, that means it's almost certain that Luke will have to beat him in order to establish dominance. However, if Luke does it, I'd look to someone else beating Jacen or Jacen being beaten by no one. It's no guarantee, but it seems like a subtle signal.

    Additionally, I really want to see Jacen off Lumiya. For all the talk about the way of the Sith, we've never seen a single apprentice kill his master. Sidious did so offscreen and Malak attempted it offscreen. IIRC, there are no other recorded instances in the entire canon.
     
  12. Rhodna

    Rhodna Jedi Youngling star 2

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    My thoughts exactly. Jacen Solo, the greatest Sith alive? And what about Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun and all those ancient folks - did they jusr suddenly melt out of cannon? o_O
     
  13. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Allanna will jab him in the leg with her 'safety stick' and then kick him repeatedly until he dies of shame.
     
  14. BobaMatt

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    Well, he hasn't done anything all that bad yet. Besides killing Nelani, I mean. Perhaps if he had succeeded in killing his parents I'd agree with you, but otherwise he's a teddy bear compared to his grandpa.
    None of them could time travel!

    Anyway, I think someone will be trying to kill Jacen, and Mirta Gev will come out of nowhere and sink the kill shot, stealing the glory from whoever else.
     
  15. Rohniss

    Rohniss Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Only if in his old age, Han doesn't shoot first !
     
  16. Lank_Pavail

    Lank_Pavail Jedi Knight star 7

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    I would love to see Jacen get the Qel Droma treatment, because I think it'd snap his twisted mind and maybe the he could begin to redeem himself.

    Otherwise, I'm strongly thinking that it'll be family that does him in. Luke's he obvious choice, but I'm gonna go with someone from his immediate family.

    Jaina, as 'Sword of the Jedi' conjures up shades of 'The Duel' You were my brother! and the like, and it would be fitting that she lay him low.

    Leia, once more tapping into the incredible power that is hers by blood, and having her own Force epiphany. She already made the choice that she would let go of her family if the price was innocents in Betrayal. Sounds like a bit of foreshadowing to me.

    Then there's Han. Yep, good ol' Han. Push him far enough, and give him that one chance, and he'll do the job. Whether it's having to shoot his only surviving son to save his family or the galaxy, or something as extreme as ramming the Falcon into Jacen's command bridge or crashing it upon him, Han would do it.

    It would destroy anyone who id it, probably physicially, but moreso, emotionally. Stuff of high drama here.
     
  17. BobaMatt

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    Frankly, I think, if someone in the family's gonna have to kill Jacen, it should be Han. Anything else would utterly destroy Han. He's the one that took Anakin and Chewie's deaths the hardest, and he seems to be the one most concerned with his childrens' lives. If Luke, or Leia does it, it would break him. If Han did it, there wouldn't be the room for uncertainty and blame, or even for blaming himself for negligence. If Han was driven to off Jacen, it would be because of certainty, and whatever sadness or regret or - let's face it - despair that he'd have to go through for killing his own son, he would be secure in the knowledge that he made the right choice. He's suffered at the hands of what the Jedi have done to his children for a long, long time.
     
  18. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh no...not Hoggon redux!

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    Hoggon!!!!


    Frankly, I'm inclined to believe that either he will eventually be redeemed, or that Jacen and Lumiya will end up killing each other....

     
  19. rebel_cheese

    rebel_cheese Jedi Master star 4

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    Anyway, I think someone will be trying to kill Jacen, and Mirta Gev will come out of nowhere and sink the kill shot, stealing the glory from whoever else.

    If that happens I'll cry. And then get angry at Karen Traviss. It'll be time to get the pitchforks, tar, and feathers . . .

    If someone must strike the final blow I'd like it to be Jaina or Ben.

     
  20. DarthSanctimonious

    DarthSanctimonious Jedi Knight star 3

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    Mirta killing Jacen is the natural conclusion to the story arc. After all, Mandos sell well and Karen won a bunch of awards. How dare you criticise Her.
     
  21. ChildOfWinds

    ChildOfWinds Chosen One star 6

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    rebel_cheese
    If someone must strike the final blow I'd like it to be Jaina or Ben.

    I think Ben's too young, unless he works in tandem with someone else. But I do think Jacen will be redeemed. I just hope he suffers some enormous consequence for his crimes. As I keep saying, being stripped of the Force would be the perfect punishment because gaining Force knowledge and powers seems to be so important to Jacen. Losing those powers would be a big blow to him, as well as a humbling experience.


    Lank_Pavail
    Leia, once more tapping into the incredible power that is hers by blood, and having her own Force epiphany. She already made the choice that she would let go of her family if the price was innocents in Betrayal. Sounds like a bit of foreshadowing to me.

    If someone does kill him off, I can see that happening, both because it was foreshadowed, as you said, AND because Jacen himself had a vision or dream of his mother coming after him with his grandfather's lightsaber.

     
  22. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd actually like him to stay alive and evil and depart on some Revan-like journey, leaving control of the Sith in the hands of his faithful baby Krayt dragon... who of course gets delusions of grandeur and makes it his mission to carry on Jacen Solo's work.

    This leads into the ultimate climax of Legacy where shortly after Krayt's a smouldering corpse at Cade's feet, the ever-young and powerful Jacen steps out from the shadows gloats a lot before he ends up being another smouldering corpse at Cade's feet.

    So, in answer to the original question: Cade.

    :p
     
  23. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Given what we know (little though it may be), I wouldn't be surprised to Jacen turn before the end of the series and begin his redemption by killing Lumiya and his "true enemies" at the end, with his reunited friends and family at his side.

    I wouldn't be surprised for that not to happen, either, but as I've mentioned, I'm a bit less... presumptive than many other fans around here. :p

    - Keralys
     
  24. BobaMatt

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    He doesn't necessarily need to be stripped of the Force to pull a Qel Droma, at this point. I think it's possible Jacen will realize that the Sith are wrong, and abandon their ways, but not rejoin the Jedi, either, out of frustration/sadness/shame. Instead he just goes off to live on some rock, resigned and defeated, unsure if he'll ever find the answers he seeks, or if those answers even exist.
     
  25. Divia

    Divia Jedi Youngling star 3

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    i would love love love to see Leia do it. I think it would be super intense. A mother must kill her son in order to save the galaxy. That's pretty powerful stuff. And dare I say..I am unsure if I have ever read anything like that. Normally it would be the father who would do it..not the mother.

    Oh wait..in Mists of Avalon..Morgain killed Mordrid...ok well one time...but a whole uni wasnt at stake.
     
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