Who would win versus a Yuuzhan Vong Warrior?

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I'd say Spidey could always smack a Vong's face, or use his flame webs.

The Flash, though, would deifnately win against a Vong. He's so fast a Vong could use nothing on him. He'd do the same thing he did with the giant gorilla super genius. Out run him then trick him into doing something stupid... run in, turn the amphistaff around just as its spitting acid... something like that.

 

Spider-Man would probably grab the Yuuzhan Vongs Amphistaff with his Webbing first and take it away from him then fight with the warrior,spideys Spider-Sense would probably enable him to easily move out of the way when the warrior attacks him hand to hand and he'd easily grab the warriors arm or leg and break it and incapacitate him and then kill him.

Dont know if Peter could figure out how use an amphistaff or if he even could use it since it might bite someone it doesnt recognize the smell of.

I'd like to see Michael Myers fight the yuuzhan vong with his knife,that would be funny having them slash him constantly and knocking him down only to have him keep getting back up and coming after them again,
i dont know what a warrior would do if he realized that he couldnt kill him, although myers is vulnerable to sedatives and poision but only for a short period.

And Wolverine would also make a good opponent,he can heal himself and his claws are indestructible and Rakamats and Fire Breathers would be useless on him,Grutchins would only annoy him and the warriors would only slow him down because of their shear numbers,i dont know if amphistaff venom would harm him though,probably not though.

 

A great idea for SW Tales. Every issue have a one or two page comic where someone fights a Vong.

 

Mateo: Wolverine's skeleton is made of whatever metal his blades are made of. Unleash the Grutchins.

Spiderman's "spider-sense" would not help him, since a Yuuzhan Vong is much quicker than your average human when it comes to melee. Now, (Going on the movie alone, as I'm not a comic-reader) Spiderman's punches are strong enough to send a fairly large unarmored human sprawling. However, Yuuzhan Vong warriors are not unarmored, and they have much higher endurance than humans. Now that any "spider-sense" has been negated by the Vong warrior's impressive speed, Spiderman has to resort to his only weapon: punches. Webs aside, as they would only slow down the Vong, all Spiderman can do is punch. And break his knuckles on the Vonduun-crab armor of the Vong warrior. So after Spiderman is done breaking his own offensive weapons, the Vong drops him in one hit.

 

Who's Micheal Myers? I've heard of Mike Myers, the great comedian, but not Micheal Myers. Who's he?

Wolverine would die from intense heat over and over and over again, like from a flamer... I think. Kinda incinerate him, yah know?

 

Spiderman smacking a Vong in the face will do him no good, especially since the Vong's face is already broken in anyway. And I doubt that he can break a limb, considering that it's encased in crab armor.

On the other hand, the Vong would probably grab Spidey's head, twist his neck and snap his spine. Game over.

As for Wolverine, we're comparing him with just a Vong warrior, not the heavy stuff. But he wouldn't last against fire breathers or rakamats. Fire breathers would roast him alive, boil his blood, and turn him into ashes. And a rakamat blast would probably vaporize his vital organs. I don't care how well he heals - he can't heal something if it's not there anymore.

Wolverine probably wouldn't do too well against a warrior either. All he has are claws, which our tough but I'm not sure if they can go through crab armor. The Vong would also have a hard time killing him, as amphistaff blows and bugs would do nothing without Wolverine healing himself back up. The only way I see for the Vong to kill him is to use the amphistaff's venom.

How bout the other X-Men?

 

The red shirts from Star trek. The supply is endless. Even though it would take 100 redshirts to match one vong, you'd have plenty to spare. THey'd be a perfect match



















Master Chief would still kick arse.

just kidding.

 

"The red shirts from Star trek. The supply is endless. Even though it would take 100 redshirts to match one vong, you'd have plenty to spare. THey'd be a perfect match"

Well if it was a main red shirt from TOS times on enterprise, such as say Scotty, he wins, and can't die because he has to show up for the next episode to save the day from yet another core meltdown. If it was Yeoman Rand she escapes to show up on some episode after in which she turns on Captain Kirk yet again. If it wasn't a main red shirt they die a dime a dozen

If it was red shirts from Next Generation periods on up, they win because they are the command on the ship that has to be alive to save the enterprise, voyager, ds9, or what not from yet another alien threat in the next episode. A red shirt of this calibre may also evolve into a god-like entity with the ability to smite his foes. Non main character, Yellow shirts replaced red shirts as weapons fodder in those shows IIRC. Now if the actor playing a main decides that they want to leave the show, the powers that be would let the vong kill him or her, so that the person can't come back to get their job again, after the actor learns that they are failures at acting anywhere else, but star trek.

 

Valiento, I really hope that was a joke...the "hero effect" you keep talking about has no bearing in a real battle.

 

It does in hollywood, writing, and other things with fictional characters. If you remove who a person is in a hollywood, or written stories then they cease to be who they originally were.

For instance, the empire is supposed to be best fighting force in the galaxy with the best technology. Yet with rebels still win with obselete technology, because they are the hero's gifted with extreme luck.

Scotty always saves the day when something goes wrong with the ship. Even though he really should be able to save the day had it been real life. Yet he does because he is the hero. If he couldn't save the day then he wouldn't scotty he would be a mere read shirt and then would die like any other read shirt.

This is just how it works in fiction. Hell if it wasn't fiction, much of the vong's armor and tech wouldn't even be feasibly if compared to real life technology, it's pure pseudo-science.

There is nothing about vong, that could even be called "real" in the slightest.

 

That's ludicrous. According to your "hero effect", Indiana Jones would defeat a Vong warrior, one on one, with their usual equipment. What are you going to do, "rank" heros so that the more "well-known" a character is, the stronger he is?

You should use rational arguments to back up your points. I understand that Indiana Jones is resourceful. That doesn't mean squat when he's got a freakin' revolover against an amphistaff and vonduum crab armor.

 

StarcraftGuy, it does mean something. If 'hero effect' meant nothing, movies wouldn't be successful. If odds mattered, then heroes would die too quickly, and entertainment wouldn't exist. Think about it. Would Star Wars have been much fun if Luke accidentally crashed into the wall of the trench or was shot down by Darth Vader in ANH? Not really. So it has to be taken into account. If it worked in the movies, it'll work in a fictional scenario.

 

Someone should start a thread on the importance and relevance of "the hero effect"

 

Ok, this thread has aggrevated me with its stupid hero effect...
I think that the original person who started this thread meant to just have the persons attributes against a normal Vong. Taking aside all of the "He needs to survive so he can pilot the Enterprize" or "He needs to become the first Jedi for a new order so he cant die..." So i think just leave out the "Hero" Effect, because its not taking out who they are, its taking out the NEED for them to survive. By your hero effect, indiana jones could take out a Death Star With his whip when the laser was firing on him on Alderaan or something... To me, this "Hero effect" shouldnt apply to this particular thread. These are fully hypothetical situations that negate the hero effect, and put them out of existence and just leaqve the persons attributes and the Vong's and then theyre supposed to go at it.

 

The "hero effect" is stupid. Look how much it helped Anakin Solo, or Chewbacca. They were probably flitting around, throwing themselves recklessly into danger thinkin "Gee, all the other SW authors have allowed me to survive before. So I can't die now, or sales will go down!" It doesn't work that way.

With hero's effect, you can justify anything. Hell, Sponge Bob Square Pants can probably kick an Yuzzie's butt because he's a hero. Or can he? How do we decide who's the hero? From what point of view do we determine who's the hero?

Also, one might say that Tsavong Lah has a hero's effect. After all, he's escaped death numerous times, and he can be considered a hero among Vong fans. So, to make things standard, make Tsavong Lah the Yuuzhan Vong warrior.

 

"The "hero effect" is stupid. Look how much it helped Anakin Solo, or Chewbacca. They were probably flitting around, throwing themselves recklessly into danger thinkin "Gee, all the other SW authors have allowed me to survive before. So I can't die now, or sales will go down!" It doesn't work that way."

Anakin Solo died because he wasn't a movie character, or hollywood. Chewbacca died because he wasn't a primary character but became secondary because he wasn't very useful in book format.

Indiana Jones is his own franchise, you couldn't kill someone from their own franchise, if you did, say like buffy, they would be resurrected to keep the stories going, as a franchise without it's mascot is no longer the franchise. If the franchise has created a facts about that character then those things factor into that characters history or events. If you ignore those facts about the character, then what you have left is no longer the character, but something that just coincidently shares the same name.

"Also, one might say that Tsavong Lah has a hero's effect. After all, he's escaped death numerous times, and he can be considered a hero among Vong fans."

He was a villain it was his lot to die in the books. He is a villain even if there is vong fans. Like all villains they lose in time.

"Hell, Sponge Bob Square Pants can probably kick an Yuzzie's butt because he's a hero."

Sponge Bob has the Cartoon factor, a character that gets squished, pulverized, flattened, reshaped in nearly-every episode. A vong could try to destroy him but there is no way he could, as Sponge Bob would just return to back into his original form.

 

Sorry, I think i may have introduced Indy a while back - i didn't realise he'd be this contentious...

I know it seems to be something of a minorty opinion, but i have to go along with valiento and the 'hero effect' idea. Indy was always very lucky, and divine itervention was a regualr occurance in the films.

In Raiders, he was beaten. The Nazis had him captive, and the ark in their hands. But Indy just closed his eyes, and let divine intervention do the rest... The same could be said for the shankara (spelling?) stones burning through the bag at the end of Temple... Indy always had his luck with him - it's what defines him as an action hero... if it wasn't for that, then he'd have died in the first reel of the first film!!

And as for Spidey - no probs. His spider sense helps him dodge bullets - Vong ain't that fast... Plus he can press, what, like 10 tonnes or something? Easily enough to break a few Vong limbs, which do have moving joints, right? Web 'em up, then break 'em. (Although he may have ethical problems with that sort of fighting!)


Wolverine too - he doesn't just have the claws- he knows how to use them. I'm not talking abou the guy from the film - i'm talking about the wolverine i grew up reading. he's deadly in close quarters combat, and would kill avong in one strike - whereas it would take many to knock him down. the armour does have weak spots. And if anything, the claws may even cut better than a lightsaber - Qui-gon's melthing through that blast door? Wolvie's done that sort of thing in a second.

he's been burned alive before, and melted with acid - all that does is put him in a bad mood!

 

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He(Wolavrine) has also had Magneto rip the Adamanitum from his body, And survived.

Apocalyps Put it Back in And he survived.

He stood up to the Neo, Super & prime sentinals.

Being impailed through the hart, Shot with high powerd partical beam weapons, exploding bullets, and Mutant energy.

He has been tossed through buildings, droped off multi story structures, Went Toe to Toe with the Hulk and almost won.

Wolvie can ice a legion of vong warriors.

 

How about Neo from the Matrix against a Vong

 

What is a chitin carbine?

 

A chitin carbine is a Yuuzhan Vong rifle analog that makes holes in people. I believe Anakin Solo was hit with one in Edge of Victory: Conquest.

And $20 on Neo.

 

Vong -v- Mr. Sinister: Sinister all the way.

Vong -v- Solid Snake: Vong, sneak only works so well

Vong -v- Metal Gear: Squish! Nuff said

 

Vong Warrior vs a Zentraedi(Robotech).

Ekk! Micronian! *Stamp* (Vong stain on boot)

Vong Warrior vs Inu-Yasha!

Nameless warrior Steps onto a feudal Japanese battlefield. Sees the Inu Crew. He Growls bearing his Amphi Staff, Inu Yasha Steeps forth and Tells the Vong to step off. The Fong Launches himself at Inu Yasha! Inu-Yasha launches himself 40 feet over the vong whips out his Sword, and feels a stab in his shoulder as he lands 10 feet behindhis target.
Predicting were our hero would land
the Vong has sent the staff like a Javlen tail first into his arm. Inu rips it out with only a "Feh!"on his lips, and Turns the Vong into Sushi.

 

Wait hold up the tread, This is a tread about people vs. Yuuzhan Vong warriors. Not the weapons or armor.Pure fighting skill without any extras. And Gotterdamder something or other Spidys puch can knock a tank not a large unarmored man

 

*slips back into his old X-Men fan mode*

Vong versus...

Xavier - he'd do a mind-blast
Cyclops - Cyclops, but Scott'd get pretty badly thrown around - until his visor broke!
Phoenix - Mind-blast, tk, etc
Storm - Storm all the way
Iceman - Bobby'd be pretty hard for a Vong to wallop, but he's not really too much of a toughie if it got in close
Beast - Vong imo
Colossus - Colossus all the way
Jubilee - Vong easy
Wolverine - What a fight that'd be! My money'd be on Wolvie!
Gambit - That'd be another good fight, odds fifty-fifty imo
Rogue - Rogue
Psylocke - Vong imo
Archangel - Vong imo
Cable - Cable
Nightcrawler - Vong, altho' 'bamf' might make it tough on the ol' Vonduun-head lol!