ST Who's The Baddie?

I think the simplest solution is always the best bet... So I'd say that if there is a new Sith apprentice then there won't be much backstory involved. I'm personally more in favour of the idea that someone has been corrupted/gone to the darkside post Palpatine's death, and they are seeking to either ressurect him in some way or are seeking ancient Sith knowledge to take his place etc. That way their story can run parralel to events in the PT or OT and they don't have to be retconned into the plot as such.

Also - even in Star Wars... I think the best villians are the human/humanoid ones a la Dooku, Tarkin, Jango (to some extent Maul) and of course Palpatine.

 

I think it's just because I'm playing swtor, but I am tired of humans getting the spotlight, and the concept of there being a single-species Jedi or Sith order. It doesn't make sense with the species diversity on the Jedi council and in the Rebel Alliance showcased in the movies. I'd like to accuse the EU of under using creative alien species, except Thrawn Trilogy had Chiss, Bothan, Wookie and Nohgiri involvement in the war and so it's decent in that regard.

Tarkin and Dooku almost embody the oppressive and cruel nature of humanity, and I understand the need for those characters. But I'd argue that Sidious counts as human, his appearance is very zombie-like for how corrupted he is by the dark side, it mirrors his inhuman personality.

 

And this is where I want that John Noble rumor to be true. Though Palpatines Empire was Xenophobic, he still had a Zabrak apprentice once, so I think it would not be impossible to have an alien apprentice again. I could see him as a Sith Pureblood...

 

There's still a certain amount of debate as to whether he was xenophobic- or whether it was just the Imperial Court, with him playing along to keep them onside.

 

I really like this idea. I didn't know what a Sith Pureblood looked like but, seeing one, I can totally picture Walter kicking butt as a Sith apprentice and general.



I also like how the Vader look could be subtly (or not so subtly) incorporated.

 

I would be beyond happy if the new Darth is a Sith Pureblood. One of the coolest looking species, IMO.

 

Yes - that is definitely the kind of thing I was thinking about... I'm not a big EU man so can you tell me where the pics are from and what's a Sith pureblood?

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_(species)

 

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Yeah, Wookiepedia is good for EU stuff. As for the pictures, I just googled them, but I assume they're from a video game and comics. Maybe someone else can be more specific.

I'd be shocked if someone shows me a GFFA species that I wanted more for the new Sith than the Pureblood. The look is perfect. I also think it makes a ton of sense to visit Korriban in the ST.

 

I've been pretty firm on my no sith stance, but those guys are cool looking

 

The first pic is from the cinematic intro for Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO.
The second one is concept art for the same game or a part of some video diaries they did back during development.

 

I like the look of the Sith species and wouldn't mind it if they used that but I've never liked the idea that they were an actual species first. I prefer Lucas' version of the Sith origin but that's just me.

 

That first pic is from the Game Intro. If you like Star Wars, you have to watch it in all it's glory (it was preety much the best of the whole game):

 

The Sith species is one of the stupidest ideas of the EU. I have nothing against the visuals of these species, but the concept is pretty lame. They are Sith not out of choice but because of genetics only. Lame.

 

The first time I read the origin of the Sith I wasn't a fan either. However, I've changed my mind. I like that the first darksiders were Jedi who went to this planet heavy with darkside energy and a native people. This suggests that the Sith race might have an inherent connection with the darkside. That's cool, imo. So no, not genetics, but because of the planet Korriban itself.

 

Since my thread on this got deleted, I may as well post my research here.

Clone/spirit of the Darth Sidious
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Palpatine

Indeed he doesn't "die" on Death Star II, his spirit lives and lays havoc on the new jedi order, and not just the once. He is a classic villain and has been very well portrayed in the films, but... eh, haven't we seen enough of his antics, wouldn't him appearing in another film be a little too much of the same? I think it would be nice to see a change of scene and have a new character to follow, but I'm sure some of you will disagree.

Darth Krayt
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Krayt

Though still a Sith lord, he's IMO seems more physically intimidating than the psychologically intimidating ones we've seen in the past. Is this a good thing, though? We have seen using brains rather a brawls has turned out to be much more of a threat to the jedi, and now the jedi have returned and the sith empire fell, I'm not sure he could represent the return of the dark side with any real weight. Again, if you disagree, feel free to vote him up.

Sith Lady Lumiya
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lumiya

There hasn't be enough female villains in the films IMO, and I think Lumiya would be a prefect choice for one. She looks very dark and mysterious without being shown to be too masculine, which would in my opinion shown some more personality and character than an atypical bad guy would add.

Darth Caedus
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus

Being the son of Leia, he would carry on the legacy of the Skywalker bloodline, and so I guess he would be the most relevant one to choose. However Lumiya being his original Sith master, it may be a bit of a leap to make him the main villain.

Lord Tremayne
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Antinnis_Tremayne

From the picture on the wiki he perhaps looks the most sinister of them all... which is what I like to see! Having been Vader's apprentice he would still be relevant to the main story, while his corrupt appearance can really carry a threat from the dark side that could unnerve the Jedi.

Lord Nyax
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Irek_Ismaren

Next to his name adaption of the sith legend to strike the fear into the hearts of his enemies, the first thing you'd notice is this unique use of lightsabers in combat. He has 8 lightsabers sprouting our of his knees and from various locations on his arms and hands, and so attacks very much as with a melee style, but with the lightsabers slicing people apart. Although this adds a nice new spin to the lightsabers combat, the downside is that is could be seen to downplay the significance and culture and traditional lightsaber combat.

Dray
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dray_(Dark_Jedi)

Admittedly I was at first hesitant to include him into the list, being given such a minor role. But after further reading he does seem like as very fearsome foe, reportedly killing an entire squad of Republic Palace Guards in seconds. His dialog and appearance also seem to be perfect for the role, giving him that ominous feel. He also has an apprentice, Finn Galfridian who has a strong connection with Luke, keeping within the tradition of the Star Wars films.

Beldorion
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Beldorion

Not as central to the plot as the other sith, but he's basically Jabba the Hutt with a lightsaber and powerful force abilities... what more is there to say?

Which of these do you guys think could work?

 

None of the above, they will not use any EU material so prominently, it was basically one of the first things officially stated about the ST.

 

I don't think any of these should be used, as they are EU creations.

 

Where's Plagueis in that list?

 

Apparently he only looked into the ABY Sith.

 

I didn't include Plagues because he has been confirmed to be killed during the events of the Phantom Menace, and to my knowledge he hasn't be resurrected after ABY in the lore.

Unless you're suggesting the next film could be set BBY, but I can't see much since in Episode 7 being set before ep. 5 and 6.

 

Episode 7 is actually set five minutes before the little maneuver at the Battle of Taanab.

 

Have you read the book? It's deliberately ambiguous.

 

Besides its from Palpatine's point of view. Not from Plagueis' view. We only have Palpatine's word for it and I don't trust him. Do you?