Why did the New Republic become the Galactic Alliance?

And clearly there are no better allies than the Jedi, get in line or hit the road.

 

That's an argument for why the Jedi would do poorly, not that the Battle Droids would do so well. Remember, those Droids were absolutely crushed by the Clones. The Yuuzhan Vong are exotic, alien, and it would take several years for the Republic to gather enough intelligence on them to know their ways... and Coruscant would probably fall and the Jedi scattered by then. and the jedi would not stand to use Alpha Red, if it could even be designed back then, I remember it was based on the works of the Chiss who have not yet made contact with the Republic before 32bby.

 

The New Republic's efficacy was deliberately kneecapped as a necessary storytelling measure to give the Vong a fighting chance. After all, the Vong didn't have any real superiority, just technical differences that gave them an initial major intelligence advantage. Once that was overcome they actually grew less effective over time because their society was non-innovative. Additionally they began the war without any industrial support whatsoever and they had no way to acquire reinforcements or achieve real cooperation with the native population of the galaxy (though they gave the peace brigade a good go of it). To win the Vong had to obliterate enough of the galaxy's industrial base and overwhelm resistance before they ran out of fleet.

Any united galactic government could have stalled efficiently, ramped up production, and swatted them down eventually. So the New Republic was made to fall apart, even though one of things democracy is actually good at is uniting against foreign aggression. Still, it is possible for a democracy to be sufficiently dysfunctional that it gets itself blitzkrieged. The operative comparison is France in the late 1930s.

 

1. B1 driods are weak. Nearly every other tyoe of battle driod put out by the Confederacy was nigh unstoppible death machine, with some of the later ones being so powerful that even jedi masters on the level of Mace Windu and Tinn were forced to tag team one to defeat it.
And even then, B1s are reasonably successful at their given role: to overwhelm the enemy with sheer numbers.

2. The driod were really only weak becuase their creators were penny pinchers, and because of industerial sabotage. Needless to say, the YV had no ability to conduct industerial sabotage, and if the Republic had contrated the driods they probably wouldn't have cut so many corners.

3. The Driod army had incredibly incompetent leaders. Most were businessmen after all, and the rest seem split between pyschotic mercenaries, darksiders, and the occasional idealist. Driods have proven terrifyingly effective in the few examples where they have even reasonably competent commanders.

4. Yes, the Clones won many battles, but they were trained from birth to the most exacting standards imaginible....and even then they suffered horrific casualties doing so in many cases. Other militaries tended to be curbstomped.

5. Finally, the driods were set up to lose from the very beginng. In spite of all of the above disadvantages, they might have easily won the war anyway had it not been for their top leaderss actively screwing things up for them, and the war would have dragged on much longer without a convient "off switch".

Addtionally, it is not accurate to say that the V were only defeated to their religious fear. They were already losing the war at that point, rather badly. Even at their height with the fall of Coursicant, Many YV leaders were aware that their victories were largely pyrrhic at this point. "you are winning battles by building ramparts out of our dead". After Ebaq 9, even the most fanatical Vong had to admit the war was lost, and the more sensible ones realised it never stood a chance. The religious fear only prevented them from making a bloodly last stand.

 

The vong were not Losing the war at that point. the vong, went from bing a Moving army, feeding off enemy terratory which they excelled at, to a Stationary force defending terratory, which they had no experince doing. thats it, everything else is rewriting history.

The forces of the galaxy, lost their capital, lost most of their forces, and were heavily demorilized.

But they switch from direct engagements to attacking soft tragets. basic gurrilla style fighting. Wich since most of them were former rebel fighters, what they knew how to do best.

The Superme overlord admitted that the cost of taking couscant was too high. But he put a religious fanatic incharge of taking coruscant. Someone whos cost to risk benefit ratio was not based in facts, but based in religious doctrin.


The Vong surrenderd because of zenoma Sekot, but by no means were galactic force given a martial victory. They Yuzzhan Vong had plenty of ships and weapons, IF they returned to the style of raid warfare they were so adept at they would have taken the galaxy decades if not centuries to deal with, and considering the GFFA was throurly wrecked when it came to infastructure, there is no garuntee the Alliance would ever be able to permenantly pacify the Vong. They might have had a scenerio similar to what the Mandalorians became several millenia ago.

 

This could not have worked, because Yuuzhan Vong technology is incompatible with the rest of the galaxy's. The rebel alliance could win by raiding because, done properly, they could acquire ships and material to maintain and even grow their forces this way. The Galactic Alliance remnant would later do the same thing. The Yuuzhan Vong can't do that. To rebuild their forces they require a Vongformed planet capable of producing yorrik coral and the other raw materials needed for their biots. They were never raiders, they never took anything from the New republic, beyond some mind-slaves, they were destroyers, they produced utter ruin and when they could replaced what had been scourged with their own infrastructure.

Yes, the Vong could have held out for a long time, if Nas Choka had avoided surrender, left Coruscant and taken his forces back up the Hydian Way to those areas of the New Territories and Trans-Hydian borderlands that they had held the longest, but their defeat was inevitable. The Shamed Ones, who formed a huge proportion of their labor force, were in widespread rebellion (and after Shimrra's death the vong might well have divided further). The GA's scientists had already reversed any technological advantages the Vong had possessed, a situation that would have only gotten worse over time (and, on totally Vongformed planets, alpha red could have been used safely).

 

The vong don?t have to be technologically compatible, they took republic resources, and used them as their own. Whether that is altering planetary environments to create resources, or destroying planets and using them for raw material such as they did with serpendal .

The vong showed the ability to create ships with minimal resources available to them, They don?t need huge planetary shipyards like at Kuat, or Fondor, or Dac. All the Vong need to do is alter and destroy what the GFFA uses, to deny the GFFA resources and take that raw material for themselves.

They don?t raid tech, the vong raid environments, they raid raw material.

As for Alpha red, The vong are Experts at terraforming. And all you need to do is destroy a planet with is a Big rock and lots of speed. The Vong spent millennia of a voyage between galaxies. The GFFA spent millennia, fighting over political ideologies, and the spiritual matters of Jedi, Not for basic survival.

In a total war scenario, the vong had the advantage.

 

Personally, I'd like to think that the Rebel Alliance was so intent on recreating the Old Republic that they fell into the same power squabbling, corruption and bureaucracy of its final years. Essentially, I think they just repeated the reasons for it falling and whilst the YV aided as well as benefited from its downfall; the underlining reasons I think were still in the background. Senators fighting for their own causes (Viqi Shesh), worlds more intent on furthering their own powerbases then working together (Duro) etc etc.

I think I might also disagree with this. The YV had suffered unnecessary losses at Coruscant and had its momentum broken after Ebaq 9 but they werent defeated. Its just they decided to consolidate their forces and had a more intelligent Warmaster at the helm. If you read the writing for TUF, you get the impression that if it were not for Zonama Sekot; the YV would have won. Nas Choka's forces were already overpowering GA space at Mon Calamari and GA tactics such as countering Yammosks were themselves countered. Ultimately, the GA would have been defeated or faced mutual possible annihilation by deploying Alpha Red. And lets not forget that the Shaper who got infected realised what had happened and reported to Shimrra of what had happened.

Really, the only reason they even surrendered was because the war had become pointless without the Supreme Overlord. He was a conduit to their gods and without him, they were fighting a religious war for no reason as there were no way in their eyes to showcase their devotion to their deities with Shimrra gone.