Why Didn't GL Make Padme Die the Other Way

If by "typical movie goer" you mean, somebody not fimiliar with Padme... she wouldn't be going out like a punk. They wouldn't know her history of being a strong willed important character. It would just be sad. Either way, I don't think she goes out like a punk... Really, looking at it from your point of view, dying of a broken heart or "giving up", she had the will to make it long enough to deliver the babies...and being the mother of a two year old, that is nothing minor. Childbirth is not an easy thing....and after giving birth to my son, if I was faced with the future she was faced with, I easily would have sacrificed my life for the safety of my son.

 

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I think Padme's death has as much to do with the will of the force as it does her broken heart and giving up. They both contribute.

I believe much of what transpires surrounding Anakin and his loved ones is brought about by the force. I choose to look at the force as a "God-like" phenomena in the Star Wars galaxy. With that, i think the force sensed that the "chosen one" was heading down the wrong path, making the wrong choices, and thus "allowed" for Padme's pregnancy so that his children could one day redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy.

But had Padme not died, she and the twins would have been in serious danger and more than likely would have been killed and Vader would never have killed the emperoror, yada yada yada.

Look at track 14 on the soundtrack as well, "The Birth of the Twins and Padme's Destiny". It was her destiny to give birth to Anakin's children and die in the process, otherwise OT never happens.

Though I haven't seen the film I did read the book and this is just my opinion anyway. I know i'm going to enjoy how it plays out on screen and I guess i just wanted to give you all an interpretation of that scene that may allow you to enjoy it as well, rather than look at it negatively.

 

"It is what it is..."

 

Of course it is what it is, but we're allowed to discuss it...

 

Yoda and Obiwan is a diffent argument than Padme. They are warriors, she is not.

She's not? Did you miss TPM and AOTC? Clearly she is a warrior in both. Face it, you can pull out all the cock and bull "studies" on brokenheart syndrome you like. It's still a lame way to die. She should die from the choke injuries.

"Having him kill Padme is going to far"

Really? You are going to use that argument after Anakin has slaughtered CHILDREN?

 

Those children were jedi. They had it coming.

 

Hopefully her weak-hearted death will come across in away that looks like a ruff child-birth was the reason. Although, that cake is immediately thrown out of the window if she is diagnosed in the film.

If Padme is diagnosed by the medics or anyone saying she had a "broken-heart" in the film, I dont think even the hardcorest of STAR WARS fans could restrain from rolling their eyes at this. George says she dies of a "broken-heart", ok, whatever. I just hope that isnt voiced in the film. "Your breaking my heart" is quite enough.

I dont want to hear a theatre full of people rolling their eyes at the same time. You know how nasty that would sound? All that eyeball-juice slosh'n around.

 

Those children were jedi. They had it coming.

No they didnt SithScotti regardless if they were Jedi or not, did Leia have it coming when her father tortured her. I mean the jedi children did not deserve to be slaughtered just like Padme did not deserve to be choked but thats Anakin for you or Vader as some may say.

 

I'll go out on a limb and say that I think sithscotti was kidding

 

I was being sarcastic. Obviously killing the children is the thing that pushes any sympathy for Anikin gone, and Vader is born imo.

Honestly my gut feeling is you have better have bought the love story in aotc, otherwise your not going to buy much of Rots, such as his turn, and Padme's death. It is playing out like a tragic love story for better or worse. Fortunately I liked Aotc.

 

She couldn't be a parent to her children anyway. They would be forced to be taken away from her no matter what, and don't tell me they wouldn't because they are wanted by the empire. So this just is another factor in her heartache. Whether Padme was alive or dead, she could not be a parent to her children. She brought them into the world, and that is all she could do under the tragic events that have taken place.

Actually, they'd have probably been safer with her than with a Jedi always hanging around. The Jedi were marked for termination, not Padme; and if one was able into hiding practically around Luke his entire life, I'm sure Padme could have gone into hiding as well with both children. It's not like she'd have her presence sensed like a Jedi, so there was a greater threat in Luke having a marked man hovering over him than living with his mother in exile somewhere. So she could very well have lived on past ROTS.

 

The Jedi were marked for termination, not Padme;

HUH?? Did you watch any of the PT? Padme has always been marked for termination..

 

No they wouldn't be safer, because the empire knew they would be alive. The children weren't being raised by jedi. Plus at this point there are only 2 jedi and so forth are insignificant. As long as the children are precived dead, its better for them They are a threat to the empire much like the younglings. Padme isn't because she is not force sensitive.

 

HUH?? Did you watch any of the PT? Padme has always been marked for termination..

If I recall, a young Jedi by the name of Darth Vader was helping the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi.

No they wouldn't be safer, because the empire knew they would be alive. The children weren't being raised by jedi. Plus at this point there are only 2 jedi and so forth are insignificant. As long as the children are precived dead, its better for them They are a threat to the empire much like the younglings. Padme isn't because she is not force sensitive.

You pretty much made my point for me. The children are percieved to be dead, and if Padme is also thought to be dead, like Obi-wan and Yoda were, that would mean she could live with them for some time longer and be with them. ie, they'd be safe because the Empire is hunting Jedi, not Padme and the children because they'd be percieved as dead.

 

Loco,

Which is why its better for the children to be assumed dead, because they are like jedi younglins.

 

Yes, but the man who Vader was serving always had Padme marked for termination....

 

Not only that but I'm sure had she lived, Vader would have known, he would have sensed it. That would have made for some interesting stuff.

Emperor: Lord Vader, you must kill Padme's offspring.

Lord Vader: ?

But i digress, she had to die. It was the will of the force.

 

Ahh, the "Will of the Force," the Star Wars Band-Aid for all logical incongruencies.

 

"Those children were jedi. They had it coming"

^^ LOL

anyway, I love it how people get so heated and defensive over the fact anakin killed the younglings. 'OH DEAR GOD WHAT A BASTARD! he should burn in the flames of hell! him killing them emporer in ROTJ does NOT redeem a child killer!'-some of the ones i have heard

-PUH-LEASE people, lets face it, those Jedi kids probably had a better chance against anakin then anyone else, ESPECIALLY his pregnant wife. Did SHE get a lightsaber? NO. Did she have the power to use the force? NO! so stop defending the kids, and start stepping up for the real helpless victim, which is Padme. At least the kids had a fighting chance. All those people's panties are in a twist over Anakin killing the younglings is because they are cute and little and say something sweet like 'master anakin...'

But until Padme gets chucked a lightsaber by Obi-Wan in her time of need, I am not gonna feel as sorry for those younglings

 

Man, that's some cold - hearted crud.... humerous, but cold.

 

One point I haven't seen yet:

Even if GL wanted to have Padme die directly from the Force-choke, he couldn't.

Because if he did, the babies had not been delivered yet. They would be dead also, like with Lacey Peterson!

So, he's stuck. He has keep Padme alive long enough to have the children delivered by C-section.

But now he's stuck with her still alive, and he wants Anakin to have killed her! What to do?

So I guess the broken heart is his only option.

 

I'm sure Lucas didn't write the story the way he did because "he had no other option"...that's ridiculous.

 

PUH-LEASE people, lets face it, those Jedi kids probably had a better chance against anakin then anyone else, ESPECIALLY his pregnant wife. Did SHE get a lightsaber? NO. Did she have the power to use the force? NO! so stop defending the kids, and start stepping up for the real helpless victim, which is Padme. At least the kids had a fighting chance. All those people's panties are in a twist over Anakin killing the younglings is because they are cute and little and say something sweet like 'master anakin..
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Well Tee both of them are victims. Also the kids didnt have a fighting chance against who the CHosen ONe,cmon now. He cut them down like trees. Also why not defend the children, lets face it Vader is quite capable of hurting children. I mean this is the man that chopped off Luke's hand and tortured his own daughter and slaughtered children in AOTC. I feel bad for Padme and the younglings as they both met terrible horrific fates.


But until Padme gets chucked a lightsaber by Obi-Wan in her time of need, I am not gonna feel as sorry for those younglings

Okay well thats you I feel sorry for both of them and regardless if the children had lightsabers against clonetroopers and the Chosen One they were dead. Also from some of the action figures Padme is packing heat so maybe she shouldve shot Anakin's !@# that wouldve been real interesting LOL

 

Loco_for_Lucas posted on 5/8/05 7:44am

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Except for the article referring to the elderly, Darthette, it helps make the point that Padme needed to die later, at least a year or so after the events of ROTS. There wasn't enough time for the tragedy to wear her down, what you posted describes grief prolonged over months and years, not hours or at most a day.
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It might have been interesting to end the filmed with Leia and a broken, half-dead, barely conscious Padme being taken to Alderaan. Than you know Padme's as good as dead, but you get to see her struggling to live on as well as paper over that plot hole with Leia remembering her "REAL mother." Some people would still complain she didn't die on screen, but the benefits would surpass that minor drawback.