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Why didn't Vader use any lightning???

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by jedisith678, Sep 11, 2005.

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  1. jedisith678

    jedisith678 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It would have been awesome to see Vader use lightning, like for instace the killing of the seperatists. Why didn't Vader use ligthning. I know the theory that is right arm was robotic, but he could just use his left hand to use Sith lightning...



    Thoughts???
     
  2. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He had not yet developed that technique :)

    kthnxbi
     
  3. R4P17DC

    R4P17DC Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He never learned it from Palpatine...
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  4. JediCouncilMaster

    JediCouncilMaster Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I agree with you both. He just turned to the Dark Side you don't expect him to be all powerful in one movie.
     
  5. jedisith678

    jedisith678 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well R4 and he learned how to force choke from Palpatine, Sidious doesn't teach Anakin crap, just to not have any mercy... Also the Darkside is the quick and easy path and not much needs learned anyways...[face_shame_on_you]
     
  6. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    there was no time in the movie for him to learn. after He turned, Order66 happened really fast . and he was sent to Mustafar right away. when would he have had a chance to learn it?. there was no time.
     
  7. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It is debatable whether force choke is a dark side power or not.

    And what do you mean Sidious doesn't teach Anakin anything, no one yet knows all that happens between the PT and the OT.

    He had just turned to the dark side so he had not been taught the ways of lightninh yet

    EOS :rolleyes:
     
  8. halfwits-r-us

    halfwits-r-us Jedi Youngling star 4

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    there is a thread similiar to this
    http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=19358706&start=19378705&search=lightning
     
  9. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    good point halfwits. fair is fair.;)
     
  10. R4P17DC

    R4P17DC Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well R4 and he learned how to force choke from Palpatine, Sidious doesn't teach Anakin crap, just to not have any mercy...
    Well you didn't read Star Wars Republic Either...
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  11. Get_in_Gear

    Get_in_Gear Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Because he had no arms, he could never generate Sith lightning - that's the official line...

    You could say Obi rendered him 'armless.
     
  12. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    I think there are aspects of the Force, even the dark side, that one must study and practice before it's but to effective use. With the strength of Anakin's potential in the Force, and his with his turn, he could have used it. It wasn't that he never learned the techinque on how to use Sith lightning. I think in order for one to use dark side lightning, one must be strong enough with the dark side. And Anakin wasn't just yet.
     
  13. Master_Shaitan

    Master_Shaitan Jedi Master star 5

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    Because he was made of metal. Anyone who uses lightning needs a conduit for the power. Vader couldnt use his amrs as they were metal and it would kill him. He diddnt learn it earlier (before the suit) because he had barely began his training.

    Palpatine: Do I have the ultimate apprentice who can fire lightning from his fingers?

    Droid: Not. We couldnt find a way of allowing the technique to work.

    Palpatine: I just had one simple request - and thats was to have a Sith apprentice who could fire fricken lightning from his fingertips...what do we have instead?

    Droid: A half man half machine in a clumsy black suit.

    Palpatine: Riiiiight.

    Droid: He's a mutated half man half machine.

    Palpatine: Its a start.
     
  14. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Did any of you even read this before posting your replies??

    He's asking why he didn't use lightning BEFORE the suit :rolleyes:
     
  15. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I did ;)
     
  16. JediCouncilMaster

    JediCouncilMaster Jedi Youngling star 6

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    "Force powers can used by a Jedi for any reason. It can be both good or evil. It's how you use them." Kyle Katarn.

    Force Choke is in fact a Dark Side power.
     
  17. Get_in_Gear

    Get_in_Gear Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I must confess - I didn't read it.

    But that was because I didn't presume anyone would ever ask why he couldn't do it within the timeframe of the movie.

    Apologies.
    I stand corrected.
    In that case, he couldn't do it because the Jedi never taught him how to do it - for rather obvious reasons...
     
  18. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Force choke is just telekinesis. If Dooku was strong enough to use lightning then Anakin was too. He never had the time to learn it, and by the time he did, he was a cyborg, so there no was no point.
     
  19. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Don't quote that KK bollocks here mate :rolleyes:
     
  20. jedisith678

    jedisith678 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This is Anakin pre suit thats why I put it in the Revenge of the Sith forum. Vader says like 10 words in this movie and just walks about 20 feet or something. And if any of you have played the Revenge of the Sith Video game Anakin uses lightning with his LEFT hand with ease...
     
  21. Lyvia

    Lyvia Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Anakin wasnt taught it and after his fight with Obi he lost any chance of using it. In the novel Palps says he needs natural body parts to use the lightning.
     
  22. Tedakin

    Tedakin Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yah.. Dark Side skill. He'd been a Dark Side user for like hours at that point. No time to learn it. Then Lucas has said that when Vader lost his hands he lost the ability to use the force lightning, as well as other things. He never reached the potential Palpatine expected before the duel on Mustafar. Palpatine saw in Luke what he saw in Anakin before he was burned and wanted Luke to take his place.
     
  23. barnsthefatjedi

    barnsthefatjedi Jedi Knight star 5

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    "As you can see, my knowledge of the Force is far beyond yours. Now, back down"

    The way Dooku boasts about his ability to use Force Lightning is enough to tell you it's not something you just 'do', but something that requires great mastery of the Force and probably takes a long time to learn.
     
  24. MithrandirVader

    MithrandirVader Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree with the general consensus that he just didn't have time to learn the skill. And for those asking why he knew force choke and not lightning, as someone above mentioned force choke is just telekinesis. Force choke is simply using the force to close off the windpipe of an energy. In terms of performing it, it is really no different than using the force to push someone or pull something to yourself. Same basic skill, that he learned from the Jedi, but different application. Force lightning, on the other hand, is something entirely different from everything else Anakin had learned, and so he would have to somehow learn that skill, which he didn't have time to do during ROTS.
     
  25. KissMeImARebel

    KissMeImARebel Force Ghost star 5

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    I say Palps never taught it to Vader b/c he was fearful of Vader's potential - he didn't want to let his ambitious apprentice to know all the tricks in his bag.

    Vader probably didn't mind either - he had Force Choke, which, in my opinion is way sexier than lightning anyway.
     
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