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Why do grocery stores sell dry ice?

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE, Feb 2, 2003.

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  1. GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE

    GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE Jedi Knight star 7

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    My local grocery store, vons, sells dry ice. Is there a purpose for it, besides making loud explosions?

    Axl.
     
  2. Dark_Lord_Erik

    Dark_Lord_Erik Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I know that it can be used for shipping food items.

    Other than that, I'm not sure.
     
  3. Skimaniac87

    Skimaniac87 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Does the owner like to kill people??
     
  4. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's quite tasty actually.
     
  5. Skimaniac87

    Skimaniac87 Jedi Knight star 5

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    It was just a question? :confused:
     
  6. Angel_of_Sith

    Angel_of_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

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    Is there a purpose for it, besides making loud explosions?

    cheap special effects?

    freezing perishable goods?

    tortureing people?
     
  7. Skimaniac87

    Skimaniac87 Jedi Knight star 5

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    You covered all the cool basics ;) Whoa! What did you say? Did you say Torture?
     
  8. GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE

    GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE Jedi Knight star 7

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    All I know is that the noise it makes when it explodes is loud.

    Axl.
     
  9. Skimaniac87

    Skimaniac87 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think it makes a neat effect for Halloween ;)
     
  10. Angel_of_Sith

    Angel_of_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

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    How do you know that it torturs people?

    i'd like to say personal experiance, but i'd be lying.

    i just figured that cos it's very very very cold, it'd give cold burns, or would cause pain when in contact with the skin.
     
  11. GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE

    GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE Jedi Knight star 7

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    Its not that cold when broken into small pieces.

    Axl.
     
  12. Skimaniac87

    Skimaniac87 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Oh I see. Well all I know is that you can't drink it, and you can't pick it up or touch it. What the heck is so good about it anyways?
     
  13. Elf

    Elf Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You can ship food with it.

     
  14. Skimaniac87

    Skimaniac87 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Good point ;)
     
  15. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Its not that cold when broken into small pieces."

    If the pieces are too small, they'll just sublimate right away. Otherwise, they'll rip your skin off rather quickly, no matter how big the pieces are.

    Amazing.
     
  16. Raincloud

    Raincloud Jedi Knight star 5

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    So people can freeze warts off at home. :(
     
  17. Elf

    Elf Jedi Padawan star 4

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    So people can freeze warts off at home.

    You know they DO have Dr.'s offices for that sort of thing...

     
  18. FlamingSword

    FlamingSword Jedi Knight star 6

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    You can ship anything that requires food. Like blood and urine samples ;)
     
  19. Raincloud

    Raincloud Jedi Knight star 5

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    Believe me, I know. It is damn painful!
    I didnt mean I froze my own warts off. :p
     
  20. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    Amazing the fun you can have with frozen C0sub2.

    From howstuffworks.com:

    How does dry ice work?

    Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide. A block of dry ice has a surface temperature of -109.3 degrees F (-78.5 degrees C). Dry ice also has the very nice feature of sublimation -- as it melts it turns directly into carbon dioxide gas rather than a liquid. The super-cold temperature and the sublimation feature make dry ice great for refrigeration. For example, if you want to send something frozen across the country, you can pack it in dry ice. It will be frozen when it reaches its destination and there will be no messy liquid left over like you would have with normal ice.

    Many people are familiar with liquid nitrogen, which boils at -320 degrees F (-196 degrees C). Liquid nitrogen is fairly messy and difficult to handle. So why is nitrogen a liquid while carbon dioxide is a solid? This difference is caused by the solid-liquid-gas features of nitrogen and carbon dioxide.

    We are all familiar with the solid-liquid-gas behavior of water. We know that at sea level water freezes at 32 degrees F (0 degrees C) and boils at 212 degrees F (100 degrees C). Water behaves differently as you change the pressure, however. As you lower the pressure the boiling point falls. If you lower the pressure enough, water will boil at room temperature. If you plot out the solid-liquid-gas behavior of a substance like water on a graph showing both temperature and pressure, you create what's called a phase diagram for the substance. The phase diagram shows the temperatures and pressures at which a substance changes between solid, liquid and gas.

    This page shows the phase diagrams for water and carbon dioxide. What you can see is that, at normal pressures, carbon dioxide moves straight between gas and solid. It is only at much higher pressures that you find liquid carbon dioxide. For example, a high pressure tank of carbon dioxide or a carbon dioxide fire extinguisher contains liquid carbon dioxide.

    To make dry ice, you start with a high-pressure container full of liquid carbon dioxide. When you release the liquid carbon dioxide from the tank, the expansion of the liquid and the high-speed evaporation of carbon dioxide gas cools the remainder of the liquid down to the freezing point, where it turns directly into a solid. If you have ever seen a carbon dioxide fire extinguisher in action you have seen this carbon dioxide snow form in the nozzle. You compress the carbon dioxide snow to create a block of dry ice.

    Dry Ice Safety

    If you ever have a chance to handle dry ice, you want to be sure to wear heavy gloves. The super-cold surface temperature can easily damage your skin if you touch it directly. For the same reason you never want to taste or swallow dry ice either.
    Another important concern with dry ice is ventilation. You want to make sure the area is well-ventilated. Carbon dioxide is heavier than air and it can concentrate in low areas or in enclosed spaces (like a car or a room where dry ice is sublimating). Normal air is 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen and only 0.035% Carbon Dioxide. If the concentration of carbon dioxide in the air rises above 5%, carbon dioxide can become toxic. Be sure to ventilate any area that contains dry ice, and do not transport it in a closed vehicle.


     
  21. GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE

    GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE Jedi Knight star 7

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  22. mac-nut

    mac-nut Jedi Knight star 5

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    hunters, fishing people, travelers, need to pack their perishables to keep from spoiling. Hospitals need to keep medication, organs for transplants, cool. If you're having a party, easiest way to keep your pop, beer, mixers cold, plus your party food.
     
  23. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Dry Ice Bomb Science Projects. *Thumbs Up* :D
     
  24. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Doesn't dry ice freeze skin?
     
  25. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Doesn't dry ice freeze skin?"

    No, it removes skin.

    Amazing.
     
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